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medomai grey
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:44:00 -
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To make my point, I will be using the basic Amarr frames in an example.
Amarr Basic Frame_____EHP_____EHP Difference
Heavy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .960 . . . . . . . . . ---
--- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- . . . . . . . . . .600
Medium . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 360 . . . . . . . . .---
--- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- . . . . . . . . . .130
Light . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .230 . . . . . . . . .---
Notice anything? The difference between medium and light EHP is only 21.667% the EHP difference between medium and heavy. Medium frames are closer to being light frames than medium frames in terms of EHP.
Medium frames should have an EHP closer to the mean average of heavy and light EHP. So in the example, the Amarr medium frame should have an EHP around 554.5.
The problem with fixing this problem is that through modules, a medium frame would be able to easily reach heavy levels of EHP. The most obvious solution would be to make armor plates and shield extenders give percentile bonuses instead of flat out number bonuses. With these two problems addressed, we can put an end to the cries to buff medium frames and stop suit EHP from trespassing into the domain of other classes.
PS: If you got the joke in the title, +1. 
I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
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medomai grey
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:58:00 -
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Oh come on! No one got the joke in the title yet? I even left a big hint!
I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
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medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.20 02:12:00 -
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bump
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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medomai grey
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League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:54:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:NO
Wtf is with everyone wanting to brick tank? This isn't halo.
What SHOULD be changed about assaults is increased shield and armor regen. This thread does not address the assault suits directly as it covers ALL medium frame suits.
The suggestions by myself and others would actually make brick tanking less effective.
Your suggestion does not address the medium frames having similar light frame EHP values.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:29:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:medomai grey wrote:Oh come on! No one got the joke in the title yet? I even left a big hint! Average!
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Medium frame EHP is not medium
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medomai grey
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.08.06 23:09:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Nice job omitting hit box and strafe speed data, which shreds the argument apart.
If you want me to invest that much of my time quantifying how hit boxes, strafe speed, various weapons, and user performance interact with each other, you're going to have to pay me a lot of money; and I'm not talking about ISK.
Furthermore, light frames posses a superior strafe speed and the smallest hit boxes in game while possessing a very similar EHP to medium frames. So your emphasis on the importance of hit boxes and strafe speed kind of go out the window when you fail to address your worst offenders.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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medomai grey
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Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.08.06 23:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Wait you want me to have an Assault suit with 1200 EHP? Getting lazy there True?
Re-read the original post. And read it slowly. Then tell me if I want you to have heavy levels of EHP. 
@Apothecary Za'ki: You also need to re-read the original post.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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medomai grey
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Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.08.07 10:17:00 -
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This thread is going to be out of context when hotfix Charlie is implemented. Seriously, let it die.
@843-Vika: The same percentile approach to tanking mods that would prevent suit classes from reaching the next heavier suit class's EHP levels would also negatively impact Minmatar the most. Having the lowest shield and armor values of the four factions, percentile bonus plates and extenders would have the smallest effect on Minmatar suits. If it were up to me, I would counter this by making Minmatar have the highest combined hi and low slot count in their respective weight classes. But it's not up to me and the suggestions I've made aren't going to happen.
@Mr Hakyou: I'll just add your name to the list of people who can't read. Don't feel bad, the list is bloated.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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