DUST Search - Is trying to open up more regions beyond Molden heath still a thing?

CRUSADER2134 wrote:

Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:

Kaughst wrote:

Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:

CRUSADER2134 wrote:

It is a good thing if CCP does it and here is why. There are SO many regions in EVE that can be opened up, they can either be next to molden heath or they can be across the galaxy. While we still take pride in conquering MH, realistically DNS both on dust and in eve cannot conquer EVERY region. We have neither the resources nor the desire to do so in the first place.

For example MH is open now lets say CCP opens up a region in Amarr or Caldari lowsec for grabs. We wouldn't have enough manpower to both defend MH and attack another region, well ok maybe one region but certainly anymore than one at a time would be difficult to do. We will expand as much as our resources will allow us to do.

That being said if CCP did in fact open up the map, everyone complaining about the big blue donut would simply go off and conquer their own regions, and then you will have some REAL politics and SOME real wars. As they conquer each corner of the EVE galaxy they will forge their own eve/dust alliances and create some really great content for both games.

Why can't you take all the districts?
Who would stop you?

NS has 63 districts on one timer none under attack, what would stop them from having 500 districts under the same timer?
If people coordinate properly now they could overpower DNS but just don't....

I can only assume that no one in DNS wants to take more districts than they already have. There are a bunch of people that were kicked out of MH that have a axe to grind and wont stop attacking all of those districts. Also the part about the EVE support being unable to handle the logistical challenge of giving support across more than one region.

I can only assume that DNS will want to take more districts because really nothing is stopping them from doing so. It's a bad mechanic if somebody can say "we can completely break this game mode if we wanted but we won't, trust us CCP introduce more districts"

And EVE logistics side...

It sadly does not take a lot to stop a general OB fleet for most of the Dust Alliances.

This map is very outdated on who the sov holders are but for all you strict dust players who don't play eve here is the map

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Vs7fr04Jiuo/maxresdefault.jpg

DNS can't hold molden heath and conquer ALL of eve, MAYBE we could conquer 1 additional region out of the dozens available.

Crushing Orbital fleets IS easy, if you don't wise up and realize that you have to make eve connections. Starting an EVE account for the purpose of dropping orbitals by yourself in a lone destroyer or even half a dozen destroyers is just asking to get spanked.

That's why Renegade Alliance fought with the DUST Corps with actual fleets, that's why General TSO's was brought in by Dust corps to bring actual fleets and that's why DNS flies actual fleets to defend our satelites.

If you think I am jumping all over the map you're crazy, logistics would never be over. That being said, with more regions open everyone not in the donut can go and try their hand and conqueror. Make your own EVE connections, take over the new regions, a few districts at a time. DNS will expand as much as we can but it will be nowhere near close to taking over ALL of New Eden, there simply isn't enough manpower to hold it.

What better way to revitalize the existing DUST community and bring in fresh faces than by opening up the map and saying all of this can be yours if you are smart enough to conquer it. Those who can't organize or form eve connections will fail, those who can will be successful.

The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu

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CPL Bloodstone Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 274	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:14:00 - [31] - Quote When will you noobs learn that CCP are master trollers. if you haven't figured that out now.... God help you. John Wayne once said "Life is hard, its even harder if you stupid!". Just sayin If you find yourself in a fair fight, "Your tactics SUCK!"
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 623	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:14:00 - [32] - Quote The guys that know they screwed the community are trying to distance themselves from the people that are proud they screwed the community. A lot of DNS guys being put back on their leashes. Like noisy kids in the back seat of the car. We can pickle that.
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 592	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:32:00 - [33] - Quote If a certain group could forgive past mistakes damage could be done but instead they wallow in the past and are dooming the future.
Moorian Flav 161	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:39:00 - [34] - Quote Unfortunately, I have come to the realization PC 2.0 (or whatever you would call an actual functioning PC mode) is now an unattainable dream. I salute those that have moved us even farther from that dream ever actually happening (by decreasing the playerbase even further) but claimed they did it for the good of the community. I don't troll; I tell the truth.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 304	Posted - 2014.04.09 22:56:00 - [35] - Quote CRUSADER2134 wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Kaughst wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: CRUSADER2134 wrote: It is a good thing if CCP does it and here is why. There are SO many regions in EVE that can be opened up, they can either be next to molden heath or they can be across the galaxy. While we still take pride in conquering MH, realistically DNS both on dust and in eve cannot conquer EVERY region. We have neither the resources nor the desire to do so in the first place. For example MH is open now lets say CCP opens up a region in Amarr or Caldari lowsec for grabs. We wouldn't have enough manpower to both defend MH and attack another region, well ok maybe one region but certainly anymore than one at a time would be difficult to do. We will expand as much as our resources will allow us to do. That being said if CCP did in fact open up the map, everyone complaining about the big blue donut would simply go off and conquer their own regions, and then you will have some REAL politics and SOME real wars. As they conquer each corner of the EVE galaxy they will forge their own eve/dust alliances and create some really great content for both games. Why can't you take all the districts? Who would stop you? NS has 63 districts on one timer none under attack, what would stop them from having 500 districts under the same timer? If people coordinate properly now they could overpower DNS but just don't.... I can only assume that no one in DNS wants to take more districts than they already have. There are a bunch of people that were kicked out of MH that have a axe to grind and wont stop attacking all of those districts. Also the part about the EVE support being unable to handle the logistical challenge of giving support across more than one region. I can only assume that DNS will want to take more districts because really nothing is stopping them from doing so. It's a bad mechanic if somebody can say "we can completely break this game mode if we wanted but we won't, trust us CCP introduce more districts" And EVE logistics side... It sadly does not take a lot to stop a general OB fleet for most of the Dust Alliances. This map is very outdated on who the sov holders are but for all you strict dust players who don't play eve here is the map http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Vs7fr04Jiuo/maxresdefault.jpg DNS can't hold molden heath and conquer ALL of eve, MAYBE we could conquer 1 additional region out of the dozens available. Crushing Orbital fleets IS easy, if you don't wise up and realize that you have to make eve connections. Starting an EVE account for the purpose of dropping orbitals by yourself in a lone destroyer or even half a dozen destroyers is just asking to get spanked. That's why Renegade Alliance fought with the DUST Corps with actual fleets, that's why General TSO's was brought in by Dust corps to bring actual fleets and that's why DNS flies actual fleets to defend our satelites. If you think I am jumping all over the map you're crazy, logistics would never be over. That being said, with more regions open everyone not in the donut can go and try their hand and conqueror. Make your own EVE connections, take over the new regions, a few districts at a time. DNS will expand as much as we can but it will be nowhere near close to taking over ALL of New Eden, there simply isn't enough manpower to hold it. What better way to revitalize the existing DUST community and bring in fresh faces than by opening up the map and saying all of this can be yours if you are smart enough to conquer it. Those who can't organize or form eve connections will fail, those who can will be successful. Thats kind of like saying if we order 20 more pizzas tonight then probably everyone will get a chance to eat because right now jonny the freaking fat kid eat all the pizza. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
CRUSADER2134 Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 33	Posted - 2014.04.09 23:51:00 - [36] - Quote Sorry you weren't good enough or smart enough to get a slice, maybe if we order 20 more pizzas you can. Welcome to EVE Cuse. Where there has to be a winner and a loser and right now we know who is who. I don't understand why everyone is complaining. DNS conquered molden heath. Why in the HELL should we cater to anyone? Why should we care what any of you want? This is CCP's style of game. Find new and creative ways to bash other people in the face and take what you want. EVE and by proxy DUST are NOT for people who cannot adapt and innovate. If you are not intelligent enough to navigate the politics AND win the wars then you shouldn't succeed. EVE and now by proxy DUST weed out the weak and the stupid and the strong and intelligent prosper and conquer. In this game universe of these 2 games don't ever assume that the game owes you ANYTHING! It doesn't, adapt, overcome, figure it out and think more. Maybe if more of the corps outside of the donut would set aside their petty bullcrap and create a coalition you could do something. But you won't because very few among you can see the big picture in anything. EVE Character MP2008
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3013	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:28:00 - [37] - Quote You can put as many sprinkles on a sht sandwich as you want, its still a sht sandwich. Do surgeons create space for tumours to grow further?. PC is fundamentally sht. Even after DNS takes mh people still can't figure it out?. Loldustlol. Watch the e3 trailer, you might remember that this game was supposed to be good by now. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. Bossing it in my reaper lol.
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3013	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:34:00 - [38] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Free Beers wrote: Anything but a complete change in design for pc is a waste of time. I would explain why but most of you are idiots and I can't be bothered I don't think improving the community's experience in Planetary Conquest 1.0 is a waste of time. I do agree that we need a complete overhaul, but complete overhauls take time. A lot of excellent changes could be made to PC with very little dev time invested. This, I have a shred of hope because Kane actually understands just how much of a fking joke PC is. Oh wait the new CPM is soon so bye bye dust forever and welcome to the enhanced prison cell fps experience. Anyway, back to eve. Where the veldspar I'm selling has more significance than dusts whole history. PS. Veldspar is the most basic sht you could possibly mine and manufacture. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. Bossing it in my reaper lol.


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