DUST Search - Scouts should be able to be radar invisible

Leonid Tybalt wrote:

Happy Violentime wrote:

Leonid Tybalt wrote:

Nitrobeacon wrote:

Roofer Madness wrote:

Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man!

You guys don't understand, none of you guys picked up what I meant. People are suggesting buffs to scanners, so that they can pick up 4x complex dampened gal scout + cloak, I'm simply disagreeing.

So what you're saying is that NOTHING should be able to counter scouts?

Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard today.

Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue.

So what you're saying is that nothing should be able to counter an active scan?

Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard all day.

Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue.

Do you see what I did there?

It already has a counter. It's called a cloak. They may show up on Radar, but still hard to see with the naked eye.

Also, a scanner doesn't protect you in the slightest from the scouts (or anyone else) from shooting at you. Dampeners and the cloak however certainly prevent people from shooting at you by virtue of not knowing where the hell you are located.

It makes the scout close to god-mode invulnerability. You people complained with your shrill tremolous voices how tanks were "god mode" because you practically couldn't hurt them. How hypocritical of you to propose that scouts should be pretty much the same thing (but rather than having impenetrable protection you propose that they should be virtually invisible to everything).

If cloaked scouts shouldn't have a counter, then neither should my tanks.

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Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 248	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:03:00 - [1] - Quote As simple as that, do you guys know what happens when a scout sees "You have been scanned"? they either run away to swap to a more dampened suit, run away and quit the game in a safe spot, or go off as far away from the scanner as they can (lets go sniping). Scouts, and I mean any scout, should have the potential to be free of being scanned, with gallente scouts needing less or even, no dampener mods. After you guys understand what it's like seeing that thing burnt on top of your TV screen as a scout, then I'll take your views into account, because right now you just won't understand. Being seen on the radar as a scout is the worst of the worst, unless we're talking brick tank AR scouts. Understand, every other scout relies on stealth, and scanners completely destroy that.
Roofer Madness Algintal Core Gallente Federation 957	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:11:00 - [2] - Quote Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man! I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 166	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:14:00 - [3] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: As simple as that, do you guys know what happens when a scout sees "You have been scanned"? they either run away to swap to a more dampened suit, run away and quit the game in a safe spot, or go off as far away from the scanner as they can (lets go sniping). Scouts, and I mean any scout, should have the potential to be free of being scanned, with gallente scouts needing less or even, no dampener mods. After you guys understand what it's like seeing that thing burnt on top of your TV screen as a scout, then I'll take your views into account, because right now you just won't understand. Being seen on the radar as a scout is the worst of the worst, unless we're talking brick tank AR scouts. Understand, every other scout relies on stealth, and scanners completely destroy that. You MUST be new here! I second the request! nothing funnier then an invisible scout carrying a spot light. LMAO Signed, Sealed, Delivered
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1379	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:31:00 - [4] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: As simple as that, do you guys know what happens when a scout sees "You have been scanned"? they either run away to swap to a more dampened suit, run away and quit the game in a safe spot, or go off as far away from the scanner as they can (lets go sniping). Scouts, and I mean any scout, should have the potential to be free of being scanned, with gallente scouts needing less or even, no dampener mods. After you guys understand what it's like seeing that thing burnt on top of your TV screen as a scout, then I'll take your views into account, because right now you just won't understand. Being seen on the radar as a scout is the worst of the worst, unless we're talking brick tank AR scouts. Understand, every other scout relies on stealth, and scanners completely destroy that. What kind of scout suit are you running ?! Even my free dragonfly suit doesn't get scanned... Forget about the main suit.... Nice troll or Plain stupid... ? !Not sure yet
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2801	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:34:00 - [5] - Quote Could be player misunderstanding the cloke qq "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Appia Nappia 474	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:58:00 - [6] - Quote I... I don;t think he understands how Scan Profile and Scan Precision work. Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 990	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:02:00 - [7] - Quote Seriously dude, you just need to run a single profile dampener in your low slots. That's it. I don't know what you are putting in there, but you just need a single mod. Toss the armor plate, lose the kin cat, drop the codebreaker, whatever. Save one low slot for the dampener. Use it. Hail Bacon
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5051	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:03:00 - [8] - Quote GalScout with a couple of Complex Dampeners can be invisible to scanners, but a CalScout with passive scans can still pick them up. Cloaked GalScouts, or heavily dampened ones, can disappear completely against any attempt to detect them. It should be possible for a scanning-focused Logi with an Active Scanner AND modules fitted to augment it (which requires there to be modules which affect the stats of Active Scanners) to pick up a cloaked non-dampened or a dampened non-cloaked Scout without having to fully proto themselves up.
Appia Nappia 474	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:21:00 - [9] - Quote 1 enhanced dampener and a cloak, OR 1 complex and 1 enhanced dampener on a Gal-Scout with max skills cannot be scanned. Even by Gal-Logi with focused Scanner or Cal-Scout with 4 complex precision enhancers 2 Complex Dampeners and a cloak mean any other scout cannot be scanned by a Gal-Logi with a focused Scanner or a Cal-Scout with 4 complex precision enhancers. *While the cloak is active Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1185	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:25:00 - [10] - Quote Agreed. No scout has to rely on dampeners to have a good game, especially minmatar. *Assassination is my thing.*

Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 440	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:33:00 - [11] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: As simple as that, do you guys know what happens when a scout sees "You have been scanned"? they either run away to swap to a more dampened suit, run away and quit the game in a safe spot, or go off as far away from the scanner as they can (lets go sniping). Scouts, and I mean any scout, should have the potential to be free of being scanned, with gallente scouts needing less or even, no dampener mods. After you guys understand what it's like seeing that thing burnt on top of your TV screen as a scout, then I'll take your views into account, because right now you just won't understand. Being seen on the radar as a scout is the worst of the worst, unless we're talking brick tank AR scouts. Understand, every other scout relies on stealth, and scanners completely destroy that. Yeah, I just think they should have to choose between being invisible to scanners or invisible to the eye. Because, that's why.
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 348	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:36:00 - [12] - Quote I run an undamped, uncloaked amarr scout and i barely get scanned Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7850	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:39:00 - [13] - Quote Is this a serious request? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 747	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:49:00 - [14] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: As simple as that, do you guys know what happens when a scout sees "You have been scanned"? they either run away to swap to a more dampened suit, run away and quit the game in a safe spot, or go off as far away from the scanner as they can (lets go sniping). Translation: Cowardice. em ta kool t'nod
Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 248	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:57:00 - [15] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man! You guys don't understand, none of you guys picked up what I meant. People are suggesting buffs to scanners, so that they can pick up 4x complex dampened gal scout + cloak, I'm simply disagreeing.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8184	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:01:00 - [16] - Quote My proto Gal scout has yet to be scanned by active scanners. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 445	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:03:00 - [17] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man! You guys don't understand, none of you guys picked up what I meant. People are suggesting buffs to scanners, so that they can pick up 4x complex dampened gal scout + cloak, I'm simply disagreeing. So what you're saying is that NOTHING should be able to counter scouts? Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard today. Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5052	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:05:00 - [18] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man! You guys don't understand, none of you guys picked up what I meant. People are suggesting buffs to scanners, so that they can pick up 4x complex dampened gal scout + cloak, I'm simply disagreeing. There's a reason I included this in my post: Garrett Blacknova wrote: It should be possible for a scanning-focused Logi with an Active Scanner AND modules fitted to augment it (which requires there to be modules which affect the stats of Active Scanners) to pick up a cloaked non-dampened or a dampened non-cloaked Scout without having to fully proto themselves up.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 330	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:32:00 - [19] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Nitrobeacon wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man! You guys don't understand, none of you guys picked up what I meant. People are suggesting buffs to scanners, so that they can pick up 4x complex dampened gal scout + cloak, I'm simply disagreeing. So what you're saying is that NOTHING should be able to counter scouts? Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard today. Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue. So what you're saying is that nothing should be able to counter an active scan? Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard all day. Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue. Do you see what I did there?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7850	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:36:00 - [20] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man! You guys don't understand, none of you guys picked up what I meant. People are suggesting buffs to scanners, so that they can pick up 4x complex dampened gal scout + cloak, I'm simply disagreeing. Then you're doing a ** poor job at conveying that message. I suggest updating either the title or the main body to reflect exactly what you mean. At first glance you make it seem that scouts shouldn't be detected in general (as in at all). Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor**

Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 450	Posted - 2014.04.08 17:48:00 - [21] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Nitrobeacon wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man! You guys don't understand, none of you guys picked up what I meant. People are suggesting buffs to scanners, so that they can pick up 4x complex dampened gal scout + cloak, I'm simply disagreeing. So what you're saying is that NOTHING should be able to counter scouts? Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard today. Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue. So what you're saying is that nothing should be able to counter an active scan? Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard all day. Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue. Do you see what I did there? It already has a counter. It's called a cloak. They may show up on Radar, but still hard to see with the naked eye. Also, a scanner doesn't protect you in the slightest from the scouts (or anyone else) from shooting at you. Dampeners and the cloak however certainly prevent people from shooting at you by virtue of not knowing where the hell you are located. It makes the scout close to god-mode invulnerability. You people complained with your shrill tremolous voices how tanks were "god mode" because you practically couldn't hurt them. How hypocritical of you to propose that scouts should be pretty much the same thing (but rather than having impenetrable protection you propose that they should be virtually invisible to everything). If cloaked scouts shouldn't have a counter, then neither should my tanks.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 330	Posted - 2014.04.08 23:51:00 - [22] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Nitrobeacon wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Are you a time traveler from 1.7? Dude, scanners have been nerfed back to the stone age and clacks. Clacks man! You guys don't understand, none of you guys picked up what I meant. People are suggesting buffs to scanners, so that they can pick up 4x complex dampened gal scout + cloak, I'm simply disagreeing. So what you're saying is that NOTHING should be able to counter scouts? Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard today. Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue. So what you're saying is that nothing should be able to counter an active scan? Wow, that's the stupidest idea I've heard all day. Everything in this game needs some kind of counter, otherwise imbalance will ensue. Do you see what I did there? It already has a counter. It's called a cloak. They may show up on Radar, but still hard to see with the naked eye. Also, a scanner doesn't protect you in the slightest from the scouts (or anyone else) from shooting at you. Dampeners and the cloak however certainly prevent people from shooting at you by virtue of not knowing where the hell you are located. It makes the scout close to god-mode invulnerability. You people complained with your shrill tremolous voices how tanks were "god mode" because you practically couldn't hurt them. How hypocritical of you to propose that scouts should be pretty much the same thing (but rather than having impenetrable protection you propose that they should be virtually invisible to everything). If cloaked scouts shouldn't have a counter, then neither should my tanks. You kinda just upped the stupid level. Cloaks are pointless if you can be scanned. I can see cloaked scouts quite easily with my eyes. The ones with red tags over their heads are so adorable. God mode? Get a clue will ya? Im dropping scouts (cloaked and uncloaked) every game with my militia smg - if this is your god then you are weak! Scouts have a counter, pretty much every weapon in the game.


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