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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
2008
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:37:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:42/0 incubus LOVE IT!
You should check your sig last night you shifted to 7th
Last I saw you went 11-6 or something and seemed to have problems with FG's and not flying into buildings.
I'm a carried scrub!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14212
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:38:00 -
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TERMINALANCE wrote:Lunatic Kota wrote:300 meter nerf was overkill.
But hey, ADS pilots are the princesses of the dust world and they were complaining. So high five for your temper tantrum actually working.
Buff Rail Gun range to 450-500 meters.
Doesn't make much since that a little Sniper Rifle (Rail Tech) has a 600m range but a Rail Gun (Turret) has 300.
Just saying. Yes it does, larger round more energy required to do veh dmg. if the large rail did the same damage to vech that the sniper rifle does then yeah but they do not. Also balance has nothing to do with sense its about gameplay not lore or logic of a fictional weapon. the range rail nerf is great, the only thing they need to add is a long range railgun that has different stats and charge up time fire rate and DPS. Something with like 500m a large large reduction in ammo and a super slow rate of fire and a easy visible round. something that does arty support but cant just win fights on its own.
Lore always dictates that your defenses are able to calculate and project Electronic warfare and counter measure capable of countering incoming shots at those ranges. Which is why engagement range max in eve is only 250kms, anything beyond that is going to be a guaranteed miss.
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saxonmish
Third Rock From The Sun
75
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:40:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:saxonmish wrote:42/0 incubus LOVE IT! You should check your sig last night you shifted to 7th Last I saw you went 11-6 or something and seemed to have problems with FG's and not flying into buildings.
Yea i'm meaning to change that lol and i dont care about my flying i try stuff i shouldn't like doing frontflips and barrel rolls but its all fun lol but when it goes right it looks awesome :D
7Th in the world for kills.
NOT GONNA STOP SLAYING TILL I'M NO.1.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6656
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:44:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:Have they fixed forges yet?
Might have something to do with it... Natural counters being broken and all.
I'm going to go on a limb and say that the Swarm Launcher is it's natural counter.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6656
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:46:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:
oh your one of the jealous types ok carry on, but in the end you just look like a di**.
Actually, you do seem to be coming off as a d!ck yourself with all the e-peen stroking about stomping people in PUBs.
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saxonmish
Third Rock From The Sun
75
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:48:00 -
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Atiim wrote:saxonmish wrote:
oh your one of the jealous types ok carry on, but in the end you just look like a di**.
Actually, you do seem to be coming off as a d!ck yourself with all the e-peen stroking about stomping people in PUBs.
i use a lv1 basic scout suit with a basic cr and smg, totally stomping
7Th in the world for kills.
NOT GONNA STOP SLAYING TILL I'M NO.1.
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Lynn Beck
Heaven's Lost Property
1692
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Posted - 2014.06.03 07:37:00 -
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Necro for lulz.
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Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
1326
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Posted - 2014.06.03 07:45:00 -
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To be fair, 300 meters is still pretty damn good. I wish my missile tank had that kind of range.
If rail tankers are really that unhappy about not being able to insta blap from the redline then there is only one other option. Increase range and make it charge before every shot. The ROF on the rail is incredible.
So which is it? Red line sniping range? Or machine gun ROF? |
Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
1326
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Posted - 2014.06.03 08:01:00 -
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TERMINALANCE wrote:Lunatic Kota wrote:300 meter nerf was overkill.
But hey, ADS pilots are the princesses of the dust world and they were complaining. So high five for your temper tantrum actually working.
Buff Rail Gun range to 450-500 meters.
Doesn't make much since that a little Sniper Rifle (Rail Tech) has a 600m range but a Rail Gun (Turret) has 300.
Just saying. Yes it does, larger round more energy required to do veh dmg. if the large rail did the same damage to vech that the sniper rifle does then yeah but they do not. Also balance has nothing to do with sense its about gameplay not lore or logic of a fictional weapon. the range rail nerf is great, the only thing they need to add is a long range railgun that has different stats and charge up time fire rate and DPS. Something with like 500m a large large reduction in ammo and a super slow rate of fire and a easy visible round. something that does arty support but cant just win fights on its own.
+1 terminalance, I like the idea of different kinds of turrets. I was really sad to see all my different types of small missiles go in 1.7. I was going to use 3 xt cycled missile launchers and name my dropship 'Hellfire' I really enjoyed those cycleds, 3 missile burst but each missile did less than others in the proto teir. If you could hit with all of them you could do incredible damage, but you had to hit with all of them! Miss one shot and your doing less per clip than the others......tericide is not good for dust......
@ kota, the reason they nerfed the rail range was because tankers were sitting 200-300m in the redline and killing everything in view which was a good 90% of the map. I'm sorry you can't sit safe in your castl...I mean red line but everyone else has to risk something to make money, sorry princess.
In fact princess, I have some of the largest testies in the land, I would fly into your redline and kill your precious tank and make it out with a second left. Talk about balls to the wall!
Anyway, the nerf was intended to get rail tanks out of the red line and onto the battlefield. I'd say its worked pretty well.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3349
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Posted - 2014.06.03 08:24:00 -
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I would like it if they increased the range to 400m; that's enough to be a counter to Incubi (I mean seriously, it's harder to forge one of those than a tank!), and possibly buffed Python's durability somewhat, preferably through a couple more base EHP.
600m is excessive and always was. Although people are still abusing the Manus Peak redline.
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Izlare Lenix
Last VenDetta.
Dark Taboo
636
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Posted - 2014.06.03 12:33:00 -
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With 600m rails there was literally no reason to fly an ADS. You would be two shot from the sky within a min, especially since there were so many red line rail scrubs.
While rail tanks don't have total dominance of maps now there are still plenty of things that can kill an ads.
RDVs
Competent rail tanks
Another ADS
Forges
Swarms
Ramming DS
Smart blaster/missile tankers
Just like with tanks, a single AVer will normally not kill a good ADS pilot, but if two AVers work together that ADS pilot is out 500k.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
9089
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:22:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Atiim wrote:saxonmish wrote:
oh your one of the jealous types ok carry on, but in the end you just look like a di**.
Actually, you do seem to be coming off as a d!ck yourself with all the e-peen stroking about stomping people in PUBs. i use a lv1 basic scout suit with a basic cr and smg, totally stomping
Last time I squadded with you you were using a Brick-Tanked Slayer Logi.
HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior
Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :(
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saxonmish
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
121
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:saxonmish wrote:Atiim wrote:saxonmish wrote:
oh your one of the jealous types ok carry on, but in the end you just look like a di**.
Actually, you do seem to be coming off as a d!ck yourself with all the e-peen stroking about stomping people in PUBs. i use a lv1 basic scout suit with a basic cr and smg, totally stomping Last time I squadded with you you were using a Brick-Tanked Slayer Logi.
that was 1.7 its scouts now
4Th in the world for kills.
NOT GONNA STOP SLAYING TILL I'M NO.1.
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Heimdallr69
2487
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:47:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:It's quite possibly the worst nerf they could've made.
Rails are now INCAPABLE of doing their (supposed) role: long range bombardment.
Now they're shotguns that instagib tanks and LAV's/stupid ds pilots.albeit this bodes well for ADS pilots, this is terrible for the people who want that ADS Out of the city.
AV is (albeit better) still laughable. Rails instagib you still, but have to manage to become flight capable.
Honestly they should've nerfed DPS through the RoF rather than make caldari rails have worse anti air than missiles. While I'm not a huge fan of the nerf, please explain to me how you plan on utilizing a 600m range without redline abuse.
Get rid of the redline or make it so you can't shoot from the redline.
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