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Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.07 18:04:00 - [1] - Quote BREAKING NEWS GÇô Nugoeihuvi News has confirmed that the presence of Ishukone CEO Mens Reppola and the corporationGÇÖs Board of Directors has been demanded in a CEP hearing to take place this evening. The demand, believed to be the first of its kind issued in over two decades, centers around allegations of corruption and inappropriate foreign relations which IshukoneGÇÖs leadership will answer to in front of the special CEP hearing. Upon issuing the demand, Hein Karnuras, Director of Internal Security for the Chief Executive Panel briefed the assembled interstellar media by confirming that GÇ£these allegations are being treated with the utmost seriousness, and those citizens who are concerned with the actions of Ishukone over the last twelve months may rest assured that these concerns will be put to rest.GÇ¥ Ishukone released a response to its employees this afternoon, ressuring their workforce that GÇ£these malicious and completely baseless accusations will be proven to be just thatGÇ¥ and that GÇ£IshukoneGÇÖs legacy as a corporation that believes diplomacy is a more powerful tool than gunfire will continue to be forged.GÇ¥ The corporation has remained tight-lipped in the face of questions from external press, other than a short statement from Chief Executive Mens Reppola, made while boarding a corporate transport bound for New Caldari. CEO Reppola offered his GÇ£regret that the CEP have chosen to escalate the situationGÇ¥ before concluding GÇ£ultimately, however, it will be they who regret this unseemly delving into IshukoneGÇÖs affairs.GÇ¥ Unfortunate. The politics and scare-tactics of the Heth regime continue to dominate current Caldari policy. Time was a Megacorporation would be respected for pursuing its own agenda, not vilified. Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them.
Hawk-eye Occultus Omega Elite Mercs INC. 115	Posted - 2014.04.07 18:22:00 - [2] - Quote Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... We are all a distant echo from the explosion of an ancient star. ' And one day, you will return to a new one, possibly
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 70	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:44:00 - [3] - Quote "Inappropriate foreign relations" What a load that is. Are KK and Lai Dai really so hungry for war? Ishukone Okusaika has never acted in spite of the State and this time is no difference. I stand by Reppola-haan in the face of these misguided Patriots and firmly agree that this entire hearing will prove to have been a waist of time and expect Ishukone Okusaika's stocks to continue their steady rise. I-RED Diplomat Veteran of Mordu's Private Trials
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 753	Posted - 2014.04.07 20:55:00 - [4] - Quote I stand by the Wiyrkome Megacorporation. What Ishukone has been doing is questionable and has been going on for far to long. If they are innocent then leave them be, but if not let the State decide their fate. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 464	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:20:00 - [5] - Quote It's about time those yellow bastards at Ishukone are put down for their weakness. Liberals, impure halfbreed, fool notions of peace with our sworn enemies....... the State has become weak since Heth-haan's disappearance..... And in his absence those who conspired to end his regime make their move to betray everything our great State stands for.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4982	Posted - 2014.04.08 01:27:00 - [6] - Quote Ishukone is always welcome to do business with the Gallante people. They earned this privilege by being valuable, trusted allies and by being much more reasonable than other Caldari corporations. If given the chance we shall aid them now that their peers have turned against them. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1197	Posted - 2014.04.08 01:35:00 - [7] - Quote I like ishukone. They take inferior tech like the assault rifle and make it better, like the assault rail rifle. it is so, so, sexy. You should never be afraid to steal from the enemy if you can make it better, and then shoot them with it. oh, and there that whole adage about one's friends, enemies and their proximity to oneself. Also, "share"? you stole our homeworld and we booted your asses off of it. Do we need to drop another titan on a city? If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 755	Posted - 2014.04.08 01:47:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ishukone is always welcome to do business with the Gallante people. They earned this privilege by being valuable, trusted allies and by being much more reasonable than other Caldari corporations. If given the chance we shall aid them now that their peers have turned against them. Ishukone may be in trouble, but it's fixable. What ever CCP says goes. If Reppola is pulled as CEO then a patriot will be put in control instead of another liberal. And it seems heth still has supporters from mercs like Harkon. Templis dragonaors are all the same. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 464	Posted - 2014.04.08 01:56:00 - [9] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ishukone is always welcome to do business with the Gallante people. They earned this privilege by being valuable, trusted allies and by being much more reasonable than other Caldari corporations. If given the chance we shall aid them now that their peers have turned against them. Ishukone may be in trouble, but it's fixable. What ever CCP says goes. If Reppola is pulled as CEO then a patriot will be put in control instead of another liberal. And it seems heth still has supporters from mercs like Harkon. Templis dragonaors are all the same. I'm no member of the Dragonaurs, merely a concerned former Patriot from before Heth's reign concerned where the weak willed liberal's and Federation sycophants would take our State.
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 755	Posted - 2014.04.08 02:27:00 - [10] - Quote I like Ishukone, but them being a little to friendly with the Federation is going to far. Sorry for the misunderstanding Kirjuun, but the way you phrased yourself would make anyone truly wonder. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

21yrOld Knight Proficiency V. 652	Posted - 2014.04.08 02:44:00 - [11] - Quote I don't understand why the Gallente and Caldari always squabble at each other. I wonder if their governments even understand what game theory is. Maybe they do and the State and the Federation realized that one will always defect from a peaceful relations. Mike Ruan Said i was Dust Famous! Did he just talk in #'s Volunteer member of the Arkombine, but i don't want out.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 264	Posted - 2014.04.08 03:11:00 - [12] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ishukone is always welcome to do business with the Gallante people. They earned this privilege by being valuable, trusted allies and by being much more reasonable than other Caldari corporations. If given the chance we shall aid them now that their peers have turned against them. Ishukone may be in trouble, but it's fixable. What ever CCP says goes. If Reppola is pulled as CEO then a patriot will be put in control instead of another liberal. And it seems heth still has supporters from mercs like Harkon. Templis dragonaors are all the same. Yes, because obviously if any Statesmen have an opinion that differs from your bleeding heart liberal ideals they surely must be extremists and should be condemned by the State. And of course all Templis are deserving of a horrible death, as they are nothing but Provist garbage. Explaining how wrong you are to an individual as thick headed as you would be worthless. Thankfully as a member of the State I don't need to be subjected to the moronic opinions of a magpie like yourself or suffer from fascism by a vocal minority. Whether you want to admit it or not, Ishukone has been wildly stepping outside their jurisdiction in recent months and diserve to be knocked down a peg for thinking they can some how muscle out the opinions of the rest of the Caldari State. The titan wreckage belongs to the Caldari, not Ishukone. Prime is the home of the Caldari, not Ishukone. This war is staffed by all members of the Caldari, not Ishukone. It is with the Caldari State that the fate of our war may lie. Not with Ishukone. I say let them appear before the executives. True to the State. *"On the Leviathan's back will our civilization be carried home and the taint of the Enemy purged from our souls."*
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 755	Posted - 2014.04.08 03:26:00 - [13] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ishukone is always welcome to do business with the Gallante people. They earned this privilege by being valuable, trusted allies and by being much more reasonable than other Caldari corporations. If given the chance we shall aid them now that their peers have turned against them. Ishukone may be in trouble, but it's fixable. What ever CEP says goes. If Reppola is pulled as CEO then a patriot will be put in control instead of another liberal. And it seems heth still has supporters from mercs like Harkon. Templis dragonaors are all the same. Yes, because obviously if any Statesmen have an opinion that differs from your bleeding heart liberal ideals they surely must be extremists and should be condemned by the State. And of course all Templis are deserving of a horrible death, as they are nothing but Provist garbage. Explaining how wrong you are to an individual as thick headed as you would be worthless. Thankfully as a member of the State I don't need to be subjected to the moronic opinions of a magpie like yourself or suffer from fascism by a vocal minority. Whether you want to admit it or not, Ishukone has been wildly stepping outside their jurisdiction in recent months and diserve to be knocked down a peg for thinking they can some how muscle out the opinions of the rest of the Caldari State. The titan wreckage belongs to the Caldari, not Ishukone. Prime is the home of the Caldari, not Ishukone. This war is staffed by all members of the Caldari, not Ishukone. It is with the Caldari State that the fate of our war may lie. Not with Ishukone. I say let them appear before the executives. True to the State. Galm you have clearly misunderstood me. I am a patriot I have made my views on the Federation well known. I don't like the government of the gallente, but do I hate the people? No. I have come to respect my foe and honor them through the way. The winds guide my soul now through order and honor. I don't like what Ishukone is doing one bit and will never condone their activities. They stomp down on every thing that is Caldari by selling themselves out. I fought over Caldari Prime twice once as a mortal and second as an immortal. Never disgrace my honor or see a wrath second to the Northern wind. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 445	Posted - 2014.04.08 05:11:00 - [14] - Quote Ishukone vs caldari state = civil war. When it starts,im hitching first ride to offer my help to ishukone.Enemy of my enemy is my friend Fck the kdr,i`m going in
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2797	Posted - 2014.04.08 09:08:00 - [15] - Quote Well thats a bold move i think their is a lot more to this than meets the eye. As an outside party im going to stay out of this and trust its just politcal squabling than anything big, a caldri civil war would be problamtic "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 755	Posted - 2014.04.08 12:02:00 - [16] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Ishukone vs caldari state = civil war. When it starts,im hitching first ride to offer my help to ishukone.Enemy of my enemy is my friend This has happened before no civil war Ishukone would simply A. Be giving a new ceo B. Be absorbed by the other 7 megacorporations. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2800	Posted - 2014.04.08 12:08:00 - [17] - Quote Unless isahikone does not play ball and tells the other mega corps to go suck it....and their people support this action, which is likely as they didnt break under heths rule. Never ever assume your nation is immune to the problems of others "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 755	Posted - 2014.04.08 12:16:00 - [18] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Unless isahikone does not play ball and tells the other mega corps to go suck it....and their people support this action, which is likely as they didnt break under heths rule. Never ever assume your nation is immune to the problems of others They did break under heth rule. They participated in the retaking of Caldari Prime so many years ago. The Caldari people do not fight each other we believe in order not chaos. If Ishukone is found guilty they will have no other friend to rely on. The Federation would try to take advantage but Ishukone is in the middle of Caldari space good luck getting their since Caldari capsuleers own somewhere around 70 to 80% of systems in between our two empires. Besides Ishukone is outnumbered and they are smart they'll just receive a new ceo at best to calm the other megacorporations. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 446	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:07:00 - [19] - Quote Mens repola is trying to bring caldari & gallente faction`s closer each other`s,and reppola is trying it by diplomatic ways. Now the caldari state is trying punish reppola and ishukone,i fear that heth`s lecacy will live in caldari state long time. Or maybe we will see heth`s returning in power somehow Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 755	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:41:00 - [20] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Mens repola is trying to bring caldari & gallente faction`s closer each other`s,and reppola is trying it by diplomatic ways. Now the caldari state is trying punish reppola and ishukone,i fear that heth`s lecacy will live in caldari state long time. Or maybe we will see heth`s returning in power somehow Heth is dead. Their is to much bad blood between the Caldari and Gallente to have peace unless we can get a guarantee of freedom from the Federation. If not then their will be war. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona 450	Posted - 2014.04.08 19:59:00 - [21] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Sergamon Draco wrote: Mens repola is trying to bring caldari & gallente faction`s closer each other`s,and reppola is trying it by diplomatic ways. Now the caldari state is trying punish reppola and ishukone,i fear that heth`s lecacy will live in caldari state long time. Or maybe we will see heth`s returning in power somehow Heth is dead. Their is to much bad blood between the Caldari and Gallente to have peace unless we can get a guarantee of freedom from the Federation. If not then their will be war. Are you 100% sure that he is dead? have you seen the body? I belive that is just the thing what reppola is trying to do, finding peace with diplomacy and helping both our nations live in peace Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Dagger-Two Tharumec Villore Accords 269	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:26:00 - [22] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Sergamon Draco wrote: Mens repola is trying to bring caldari & gallente faction`s closer each other`s,and reppola is trying it by diplomatic ways. Now the caldari state is trying punish reppola and ishukone,i fear that heth`s lecacy will live in caldari state long time. Or maybe we will see heth`s returning in power somehow Heth is dead. Their is to much bad blood between the Caldari and Gallente to have peace unless we can get a guarantee of freedom from the Federation. If not then their will be war. Bad blood can fade in time if both sides work towards that goal. As for freedom from the Federation, the Gallente are fully aware of how incompatible the two nations are. After the tragic events two centuries ago, I doubt the Federation would in any way want to incorporate the State back into it. That is no reason, however, that the two can not coexist peacefully, or even become friends. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:35:00 - [23] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it?
Hawk-eye Occultus Omega Elite Mercs INC. 124	Posted - 2014.04.21 20:26:00 - [24] - Quote Matobar wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it? Well, consider the two times we invaded Caldari Prime: First time, we drove them off completely for about 200 years... Then Tibus came along and took it back. Shoved a titan + support fleet in orbit for good measure. Then we invade again, destroying the Caldari titan and support fleet and attempted to completely dislodge their ground forces, but they fought back hard enough to hold a small majority of the planet. If the Gallente invasion force had their way, the whole planet would be under Gallente control again. Only reason that we have the whole "half & half" division of control of Caldari Prime is that outside entities forced both parties onto the negotiation table. 'Course, that fraction of control is slowly beginning to change... We are all a distant echo from the explosion of an ancient star. ' And one day, you will return to a new one, possibly
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 464	Posted - 2014.04.21 22:09:00 - [25] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it? Well, consider the two times we invaded Caldari Prime: First time, we drove them off completely for about 200 years... Then Tibus came along and took it back. Shoved a titan + support fleet in orbit for good measure. Then we invade again, destroying the Caldari titan and support fleet and attempted to completely dislodge their ground forces, but they fought back hard enough to hold a small majority of the planet. If the Gallente invasion force had their way, the whole planet would be under Gallente control again. Only reason that we have the whole "half & half" division of control of Caldari Prime is that outside entities forced both parties onto the negotiation table. 'Course, that fraction of control is slowly beginning to change... I remember you bastards trying to retake our Homeworld planet side and I also remember you dying in grossly embarrassing numbers. Event the liberalist scum who infest our State's armed forces are worth 5 of your Feds. An invasion force would have been repulsed with ease.
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 788	Posted - 2014.04.21 22:15:00 - [26] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it? Well, consider the two times we invaded Caldari Prime: First time, we drove them off completely for about 200 years... Then Tibus came along and took it back. Shoved a titan + support fleet in orbit for good measure. Then we invade again, destroying the Caldari titan and support fleet and attempted to completely dislodge their ground forces, but they fought back hard enough to hold a small majority of the planet. If the Gallente invasion force had their way, the whole planet would be under Gallente control again. Only reason that we have the whole "half & half" division of control of Caldari Prime is that outside entities forced both parties onto the negotiation table. 'Course, that fraction of control is slowly beginning to change... Didn't the Caldari Win the battle on the ground? Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous* Who else thinks I'm Famous?
Hawk-eye Occultus Omega Elite Mercs INC. 124	Posted - 2014.04.21 23:14:00 - [27] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: I remember you bastards trying to retake our Homeworld planet side and I also remember you dying in grossly embarrassing numbers. Event the liberalist scum who infest our State's armed forces are worth 5 of your Feds. An invasion force would have been repulsed with ease. 2 things: Despite my use of the word "we" whilst describing the Gallente during the two invasions of Caldari Prime (which in hindsight was quite a careless word choice), I never stated which side of the battle I fought for. Think about that for a moment... Secondly, an invasion force did hit Caldari Prime, and said invasion force (in the case of the second invasion) had almost wrestled half of the entire planet from Caldari control, although the valiant defence allowed just enough of a majority to be held that the Gallente were unable to uproot the place. As for the change in fraction of control, this is referencing the Iskukone Corporation bringing the city of Arcurio under Caldari control through negotiation with the Senate. 21yrOld Knight wrote: Didn't the Caldari Win the battle on the ground? Technically, yes, they did. We are all a distant echo from the explosion of an ancient star. ' And one day, you will return to a new one, possibly
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 74	Posted - 2014.04.22 14:51:00 - [28] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Heth is dead. Their is to much bad blood between the Caldari and Gallente to have peace unless we can get a guarantee of freedom from the Federation. If not then their will be war. Are you 100% sure that he is dead? have you seen the body? Let me put on my tinfoil hat here and present a current conspiracy regarding this: the laser damage found on the wreckage of the fugitive fleet supposedly escorting the former Executor, along with the missing bodies and presence of his bloody watch points to a Sansha harvesting. If you assume that the original Sansha Kuvakei was actually killed many years ago as reports indicate, and given the former Executor's strong personality and willpower, it is possible that he is being cybernetically altered and "enhanced" into a second Sansha Kuvakei that will embody his currently existing will and lead the Nation forward....just some food for thought. Harkon Vysarii wrote: An invasion force would have been repulsed with ease. While this is most likely true given that the Federal Navy was incapable of breaching the orbital defense grid and our State forces on the ground were still strong enough to repel any orbital support for their forces, further fighting would only have been at the detriment to our homeworld. Ishukone Okusaika acting to prevent further loss of our citizens' lives and destruction of our beautiful home. Now it moves forward to, while admittedly slowly, permanently secure the entirety of our homeworld for our great State while preserving the integrity of it and its population for generations to come. I-RED Diplomat Veteran of Mordu's Private Trials
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:18:00 - [29] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it? Well, consider the two times we invaded Caldari Prime: First time, we drove them off completely for about 200 years... Then Tibus came along and took it back. Shoved a titan + support fleet in orbit for good measure. Then we invade again, destroying the Caldari titan and support fleet and attempted to completely dislodge their ground forces, but they fought back hard enough to hold a small majority of the planet. If the Gallente invasion force had their way, the whole planet would be under Gallente control again. Only reason that we have the whole "half & half" division of control of Caldari Prime is that outside entities forced both parties onto the negotiation table. 'Course, that fraction of control is slowly beginning to change... My point was that, the Caldari are only really on the planet because the Gallente are letting them be there. Look at it this way: Caldari Prime is right smack dab in the heart of Gallente territory. If we really wanted to, we could take it over, sod the consequences, and no one could stop us. We're not going to do that, because Ishukone is kind of cool, and New Eden politics being what they are we'd be denounced or something. But the reality of the situation is: Caldari Prime is in Gallente Territory. It is surrounded by Gallente territory. Hell, half of the planet is technically Gallente territory. The Caldari have every right to be on their homeworld. They have every right to make a pilgrimage there and live there and grow old there and die there and be buried there. But pretending this supersedes the fact that their planet is within spitting distance of our capital is just dumb.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 769	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:30:00 - [30] - Quote Matobar wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it? Well, consider the two times we invaded Caldari Prime: First time, we drove them off completely for about 200 years... Then Tibus came along and took it back. Shoved a titan + support fleet in orbit for good measure. Then we invade again, destroying the Caldari titan and support fleet and attempted to completely dislodge their ground forces, but they fought back hard enough to hold a small majority of the planet. If the Gallente invasion force had their way, the whole planet would be under Gallente control again. Only reason that we have the whole "half & half" division of control of Caldari Prime is that outside entities forced both parties onto the negotiation table. 'Course, that fraction of control is slowly beginning to change... My point was that, the Caldari are only really on the planet because the Gallente are letting them be there. Look at it this way: Caldari Prime is right smack dab in the heart of Gallente territory. If we really wanted to, we could take it over, sod the consequences, and no one could stop us. We're not going to do that, because Ishukone is kind of cool, and New Eden politics being what they are we'd be denounced or something. But the reality of the situation is: Caldari Prime is in Gallente Territory. It is surrounded by Gallente territory. Hell, half of the planet is technically Gallente territory. The Caldari have every right to be on their homeworld. They have every right to make a pilgrimage there and live there and grow old there and die there and be buried there. But pretending this supersedes the fact that their planet is within spitting distance of our capital is just dumb. Wow you clearly have missed the fact that on the ground it was hellish. Caldari forces weren't moving from their defensive positions. Not to mention the Caldari navy harassed the Federations forces from dropping orbitals. The battle ended with both sides asking for a truce before the battle got out of hand. The Gallante won the space battle Caldari won the land. (Just got eve source and after reading the gallente section I'm horrified it still exists) We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 804	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:38:00 - [31] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: But pretending this supersedes the fact that their planet is within spitting distance of our capital is just dumb. Wow you clearly have missed the fact that on the ground it was hellish. Caldari forces weren't moving from their defensive positions. Not to mention the Caldari navy harassed the Federations forces from dropping orbitals. The battle ended with both sides asking for a truce before the battle got out of hand. The Gallante won the space battle Caldari won the land. (Just got eve source and after reading the gallente section I'm horrified it still exists)[/quote] How would of you felt if the rumors about the Leviathan were true? Some capsuleers say they saw the Levitahan setting up for a orbital strike. Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous* Who else thinks I'm Famous?
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 769	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:04:00 - [32] - Quote Did you know that admiral visera yanala disobeyed tibus heths' direct order to fire the doomsday weaponry upon Caldari Prime seven times. Their was no threat of the titan ever firing because of honorable Caldari placed in command. The only dishonorable Caldari was Tibus Heth and the provists. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 809	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:13:00 - [33] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Did you know that admiral visera yanala disobeyed tibus heths' direct order to fire the doomsday weaponry upon Caldari Prime seven times. Their was no threat of the titan ever firing because of honorable Caldari placed in command. The only dishonorable Caldari was Tibus Heth and the provists. No threat? The Leviathan was positioning itself for a orbital strike. I guess it is how ever you want to picture it. I love how you used the word honorable! It shows how subjective it can be. ( I thought an average character wouldn't know that. I would hate to be her, she lost her immortality) Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous* Who else thinks I'm Famous?
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.24 23:00:00 - [34] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Wow you clearly have missed the fact that on the ground it was hellish. Caldari forces weren't moving from their defensive positions. Not to mention the Caldari navy harassed the Federations forces from dropping orbitals. The battle ended with both sides asking for a truce before the battle got out of hand. The Gallante won the space battle Caldari won the land. (Just got eve source and after reading the gallente section I'm horrified it still exists) You missed my point. Operation Highlander was hardly the entire Federation Armed Forces. It was a strike team of naval and ground forces, designed to wrest control from an unprepared opponent. This was because Tibus Heth was threatening Gallente citizens with a Titan's Doomsday weapon. If we hadn't cared about our own citizens. If we hadn't cared about collateral damage. If we hadn't cared about a madman with a Titan in our home system. Then yes, we could have taken over Caldari Prime. However long it would have taken, however many lives would have been lost in the process, however many counter-invasions we had to weather, the planet would be under Gallente Control if we really, truly, wanted it. The fact that we've decided to run it in tandem with Mordu's Legion and Ishukone speaks to how much we value peace over ownership.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9735	Posted - 2014.04.25 01:30:00 - [35] - Quote Matobar wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Wow you clearly have missed the fact that on the ground it was hellish. Caldari forces weren't moving from their defensive positions. Not to mention the Caldari navy harassed the Federations forces from dropping orbitals. The battle ended with both sides asking for a truce before the battle got out of hand. The Gallante won the space battle Caldari won the land. (Just got eve source and after reading the gallente section I'm horrified it still exists) You missed my point. Operation Highlander was hardly the entire Federation Armed Forces. It was a strike team of naval and ground forces, designed to wrest control from an unprepared opponent. This was because Tibus Heth was threatening Gallente citizens with a Titan's Doomsday weapon. If we hadn't cared about our own citizens. If we hadn't cared about collateral damage. If we hadn't cared about a madman with a Titan in our home system. Then yes, we could have taken over Caldari Prime. However long it would have taken, however many lives would have been lost in the process, however many counter-invasions we had to weather, the planet would be under Gallente Control if we really, truly, wanted it. The fact that we've decided to run it in tandem with Mordu's Legion and Ishukone speaks to how much we value peace over ownership. Could have, would have, and should have are irrelevant. All the matters is what is, and what did happen was the Caldari Ground Forces drew you into a stale mate, forcing the Federation to concede to terms of demilitarizing the planet. Consequently the Federation destroyed a supremely valuable tactical assets at the demands of a fool. These phantom Federal armies you speak of were not present, nor did they make themselves present, neither too did the entirety of the State levies make themselves available. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.25 15:44:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Could have, would have, and should have are irrelevant. All the matters is what is, and what did happen was the Caldari Ground Forces drew you into a stale mate, forcing the Federation to concede to terms of demilitarizing the planet. Consequently the Federation destroyed a supremely valuable tactical assets at the demands of a fool. These phantom Federal armies you speak of were not present, nor did they make themselves present, neither too did the entirety of the State levies make themselves available. Once again, you're ignoring the point. I'm not talking about a specific instance where we "could have" taken over Caldari Prime. I'm not saying Operation Highlander "would have" been successful if we'd had more troops. All I'm saying is that Caldari Prime continues to exist because the Federation is letting it. If we wanted, really wanted, we could take every Titan in our arsenal right now, and demolish the planet. If we wanted, really wanted, we could take every Federation trooper in existence and take the ************ over, with assured orbital superiority and no reinforcements for the Caldari. When I say "share" Caldari Prime, I mean that we're allowing it to continue its orbit around the sun thanks to our good graces, and the millions of Gallente happily living on the surface. To pretend we couldn't destroy the planet on a whim is willful ignorance. You're right, we were fought to a stalemate on Caldari Prime. Because we decided to stop fighting. The Federation could easily have called in reinforcements, ignored the casualties, and continued trying to take over the planet. Or, we could have bombed every Caldari on it into kingdom come. But even so: Gallente interest still run roughly half the planet. And Ishukone was running the other half. Last I checked, that was the definition of "sharing."
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 770	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:06:00 - [37] - Quote Matobar wrote: True Adamance wrote: Could have, would have, and should have are irrelevant. All the matters is what is, and what did happen was the Caldari Ground Forces drew you into a stale mate, forcing the Federation to concede to terms of demilitarizing the planet. Consequently the Federation destroyed a supremely valuable tactical assets at the demands of a fool. These phantom Federal armies you speak of were not present, nor did they make themselves present, neither too did the entirety of the State levies make themselves available. Once again, you're ignoring the point. I'm not talking about a specific instance where we "could have" taken over Caldari Prime. I'm not saying Operation Highlander "would have" been successful if we'd had more troops. All I'm saying is that Caldari Prime continues to exist because the Federation is letting it. If we wanted, really wanted, we could take every Titan in our arsenal right now, and demolish the planet. If we wanted, really wanted, we could take every Federation trooper in existence and take the ************ over, with assured orbital superiority and no reinforcements for the Caldari. When I say "share" Caldari Prime, I mean that we're allowing it to continue its orbit around the sun thanks to our good graces, and the millions of Gallente happily living on the surface. To pretend we couldn't destroy the planet on a whim is willful ignorance. You're right, we were fought to a stalemate on Caldari Prime. Because we decided to stop fighting. The Federation could easily have called in reinforcements, ignored the casualties, and continued trying to take over the planet. Or, we could have bombed every Caldari on it into kingdom come. But even so: Gallente interest still run roughly half the planet. And Ishukone was running the other half. Last I checked, that was the definition of "sharing." If the Gallente did this you would see a fully mobilized State. 8 trillion souls bearing down on your empire. Gallente think they are strong but how long would the Federations citizens fight. Not the small rich class the poor which makes up 90% of your fighting force. How long would the Mannar fight before abandoning the Federation and splitting of like the Intaki or Caldari. Your people don't like war only the rich upper class wants it, because they don't fight it. The State was born from war, loves war, trains each citizen for it. 4 megacorporations supply half the armaments in new eden. Are forces are small but deadly. The Federation is scared of this fact so they can't start an all out war without the lower classes support. (( yummy I love reading eve source next is amarr)) We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:21:00 - [38] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: If the Gallente did this you would see a fully mobilized State. 8 trillion souls bearing down on your empire. Gallente think they are strong but how long would the Federations citizens fight. Not the small rich class the poor which makes up 90% of your fighting force. How long would the Mannar fight before abandoning the Federation and splitting of like the Intaki or Caldari. Your people don't like war only the rich upper class wants it, because they don't fight it. The State was born from war, loves war, trains each citizen for it. 4 megacorporations supply half the armaments in new eden. Are forces are small but deadly. The Federation is scared of this fact so they can't start an all out war without the lower classes support. (( yummy I love reading eve source next is amarr)) The Empires have been fighting for 5 years already, and the Gallente are winning. Here's the influence map if you don't believe me. :P Last I checked, the Intaki are still very much aligned with the Federation. Mordu's Legion and the Syndicate aside. The Mannar are actually political Hawks, meaning they're more in favor of war than any other Gallente faction. So I think they'd be the last to split from the Federation. I don't think the State loves war. Ishukone and La Dai both have histories of conflict neutrality, Ishukone especially. I'm not saying they wouldn't be pissed if we nuked Caldari Prime, but to say everyone in the State has been trained for war and loves it is simply erroneous. The Federation is not scared of Caldari. If we were, we would not have launched Operation Highlander. You can't get much more fearless than bum-rushing a Leviathan within spitting distance of your capital. But that doesn't mean we want war. I've never said we want war. All I've said was that we have the ability, at any time, to destroy or annex Caldari Prime. We're just choosing not to.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 770	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:31:00 - [39] - Quote And you aren't getting the point. If the Federation did so it would lose its legitimacy. Last bombing of Caldari Prime the president and all involved were exiled, put in jail, or put to sleep. Reason being? The people didn't want it, rioting began, civil unrest began. The war continued, but the people showed then and there they didn't want war. The Caldari indeed don't love war, but unlike your people the Caldari are born knowing war the are taught how to fight. But look at when tibus heth took Caldari Prime 20 million souls signed up to fight including myself. We take the chance to honor our corporations in battle just like our ancestors did. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Jaceon Pale-eye DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:32:00 - [40] - Quote As long as this doesn't impact Ishukone's ability to produce better sniper rifles than Kaalakiota puts out, I don't really care what happens to Reppola and the megacorp.



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