DUST Search - ISHUKONE EXECUTIVES CALLED TO CHIEF EXECUTIVE PANEL HEARING

Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:

Matobar wrote:

Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:

Matobar wrote:

Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them.

Yes... "Share"...

What else would you call it?

Well, consider the two times we invaded Caldari Prime:

First time, we drove them off completely for about 200 years...

Then Tibus came along and took it back. Shoved a titan + support fleet in orbit for good measure.

Then we invade again, destroying the Caldari titan and support fleet and attempted to completely dislodge their ground forces, but they fought back hard enough to hold a small majority of the planet.

If the Gallente invasion force had their way, the whole planet would be under Gallente control again. Only reason that we have the whole "half & half" division of control of Caldari Prime is that outside entities forced both parties onto the negotiation table.

'Course, that fraction of control is slowly beginning to change...


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Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.07 18:04:00 - [1] - Quote BREAKING NEWS GÇô Nugoeihuvi News has confirmed that the presence of Ishukone CEO Mens Reppola and the corporationGÇÖs Board of Directors has been demanded in a CEP hearing to take place this evening. The demand, believed to be the first of its kind issued in over two decades, centers around allegations of corruption and inappropriate foreign relations which IshukoneGÇÖs leadership will answer to in front of the special CEP hearing. Upon issuing the demand, Hein Karnuras, Director of Internal Security for the Chief Executive Panel briefed the assembled interstellar media by confirming that GÇ£these allegations are being treated with the utmost seriousness, and those citizens who are concerned with the actions of Ishukone over the last twelve months may rest assured that these concerns will be put to rest.GÇ¥ Ishukone released a response to its employees this afternoon, ressuring their workforce that GÇ£these malicious and completely baseless accusations will be proven to be just thatGÇ¥ and that GÇ£IshukoneGÇÖs legacy as a corporation that believes diplomacy is a more powerful tool than gunfire will continue to be forged.GÇ¥ The corporation has remained tight-lipped in the face of questions from external press, other than a short statement from Chief Executive Mens Reppola, made while boarding a corporate transport bound for New Caldari. CEO Reppola offered his GÇ£regret that the CEP have chosen to escalate the situationGÇ¥ before concluding GÇ£ultimately, however, it will be they who regret this unseemly delving into IshukoneGÇÖs affairs.GÇ¥ Unfortunate. The politics and scare-tactics of the Heth regime continue to dominate current Caldari policy. Time was a Megacorporation would be respected for pursuing its own agenda, not vilified. Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them.
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:35:00 - [2] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it?
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:18:00 - [3] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Matobar wrote: Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it? Well, consider the two times we invaded Caldari Prime: First time, we drove them off completely for about 200 years... Then Tibus came along and took it back. Shoved a titan + support fleet in orbit for good measure. Then we invade again, destroying the Caldari titan and support fleet and attempted to completely dislodge their ground forces, but they fought back hard enough to hold a small majority of the planet. If the Gallente invasion force had their way, the whole planet would be under Gallente control again. Only reason that we have the whole "half & half" division of control of Caldari Prime is that outside entities forced both parties onto the negotiation table. 'Course, that fraction of control is slowly beginning to change... My point was that, the Caldari are only really on the planet because the Gallente are letting them be there. Look at it this way: Caldari Prime is right smack dab in the heart of Gallente territory. If we really wanted to, we could take it over, sod the consequences, and no one could stop us. We're not going to do that, because Ishukone is kind of cool, and New Eden politics being what they are we'd be denounced or something. But the reality of the situation is: Caldari Prime is in Gallente Territory. It is surrounded by Gallente territory. Hell, half of the planet is technically Gallente territory. The Caldari have every right to be on their homeworld. They have every right to make a pilgrimage there and live there and grow old there and die there and be buried there. But pretending this supersedes the fact that their planet is within spitting distance of our capital is just dumb.
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.24 23:00:00 - [4] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Wow you clearly have missed the fact that on the ground it was hellish. Caldari forces weren't moving from their defensive positions. Not to mention the Caldari navy harassed the Federations forces from dropping orbitals. The battle ended with both sides asking for a truce before the battle got out of hand. The Gallante won the space battle Caldari won the land. (Just got eve source and after reading the gallente section I'm horrified it still exists) You missed my point. Operation Highlander was hardly the entire Federation Armed Forces. It was a strike team of naval and ground forces, designed to wrest control from an unprepared opponent. This was because Tibus Heth was threatening Gallente citizens with a Titan's Doomsday weapon. If we hadn't cared about our own citizens. If we hadn't cared about collateral damage. If we hadn't cared about a madman with a Titan in our home system. Then yes, we could have taken over Caldari Prime. However long it would have taken, however many lives would have been lost in the process, however many counter-invasions we had to weather, the planet would be under Gallente Control if we really, truly, wanted it. The fact that we've decided to run it in tandem with Mordu's Legion and Ishukone speaks to how much we value peace over ownership.
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.25 15:44:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Could have, would have, and should have are irrelevant. All the matters is what is, and what did happen was the Caldari Ground Forces drew you into a stale mate, forcing the Federation to concede to terms of demilitarizing the planet. Consequently the Federation destroyed a supremely valuable tactical assets at the demands of a fool. These phantom Federal armies you speak of were not present, nor did they make themselves present, neither too did the entirety of the State levies make themselves available. Once again, you're ignoring the point. I'm not talking about a specific instance where we "could have" taken over Caldari Prime. I'm not saying Operation Highlander "would have" been successful if we'd had more troops. All I'm saying is that Caldari Prime continues to exist because the Federation is letting it. If we wanted, really wanted, we could take every Titan in our arsenal right now, and demolish the planet. If we wanted, really wanted, we could take every Federation trooper in existence and take the ************ over, with assured orbital superiority and no reinforcements for the Caldari. When I say "share" Caldari Prime, I mean that we're allowing it to continue its orbit around the sun thanks to our good graces, and the millions of Gallente happily living on the surface. To pretend we couldn't destroy the planet on a whim is willful ignorance. You're right, we were fought to a stalemate on Caldari Prime. Because we decided to stop fighting. The Federation could easily have called in reinforcements, ignored the casualties, and continued trying to take over the planet. Or, we could have bombed every Caldari on it into kingdom come. But even so: Gallente interest still run roughly half the planet. And Ishukone was running the other half. Last I checked, that was the definition of "sharing."
Matobar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 237	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:21:00 - [6] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: If the Gallente did this you would see a fully mobilized State. 8 trillion souls bearing down on your empire. Gallente think they are strong but how long would the Federations citizens fight. Not the small rich class the poor which makes up 90% of your fighting force. How long would the Mannar fight before abandoning the Federation and splitting of like the Intaki or Caldari. Your people don't like war only the rich upper class wants it, because they don't fight it. The State was born from war, loves war, trains each citizen for it. 4 megacorporations supply half the armaments in new eden. Are forces are small but deadly. The Federation is scared of this fact so they can't start an all out war without the lower classes support. (( yummy I love reading eve source next is amarr)) The Empires have been fighting for 5 years already, and the Gallente are winning. Here's the influence map if you don't believe me. :P Last I checked, the Intaki are still very much aligned with the Federation. Mordu's Legion and the Syndicate aside. The Mannar are actually political Hawks, meaning they're more in favor of war than any other Gallente faction. So I think they'd be the last to split from the Federation. I don't think the State loves war. Ishukone and La Dai both have histories of conflict neutrality, Ishukone especially. I'm not saying they wouldn't be pissed if we nuked Caldari Prime, but to say everyone in the State has been trained for war and loves it is simply erroneous. The Federation is not scared of Caldari. If we were, we would not have launched Operation Highlander. You can't get much more fearless than bum-rushing a Leviathan within spitting distance of your capital. But that doesn't mean we want war. I've never said we want war. All I've said was that we have the ability, at any time, to destroy or annex Caldari Prime. We're just choosing not to.