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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:55:00 -
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I stand by the Wiyrkome Megacorporation. What Ishukone has been doing is questionable and has been going on for far to long. If they are innocent then leave them be, but if not let the State decide their fate.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.08 01:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Ishukone is always welcome to do business with the Gallante people. They earned this privilege by being valuable, trusted allies and by being much more reasonable than other Caldari corporations. If given the chance we shall aid them now that their peers have turned against them. Ishukone may be in trouble, but it's fixable. What ever CCP says goes. If Reppola is pulled as CEO then a patriot will be put in control instead of another liberal. And it seems heth still has supporters from mercs like Harkon. Templis dragonaors are all the same.
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.04.08 02:27:00 -
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I like Ishukone, but them being a little to friendly with the Federation is going to far. Sorry for the misunderstanding Kirjuun, but the way you phrased yourself would make anyone truly wonder.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:26:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Ishukone is always welcome to do business with the Gallante people. They earned this privilege by being valuable, trusted allies and by being much more reasonable than other Caldari corporations. If given the chance we shall aid them now that their peers have turned against them. Ishukone may be in trouble, but it's fixable. What ever CEP says goes. If Reppola is pulled as CEO then a patriot will be put in control instead of another liberal. And it seems heth still has supporters from mercs like Harkon. Templis dragonaors are all the same. Yes, because obviously if any Statesmen have an opinion that differs from your bleeding heart liberal ideals they surely must be extremists and should be condemned by the State. And of course all Templis are deserving of a horrible death, as they are nothing but Provist garbage. Explaining how wrong you are to an individual as thick headed as you would be worthless. Thankfully as a member of the State I don't need to be subjected to the moronic opinions of a magpie like yourself or suffer from fascism by a vocal minority. Whether you want to admit it or not, Ishukone has been wildly stepping outside their jurisdiction in recent months and diserve to be knocked down a peg for thinking they can some how muscle out the opinions of the rest of the Caldari State. The titan wreckage belongs to the Caldari, not Ishukone.
Prime is the home of the Caldari, not Ishukone.
This war is staffed by all members of the Caldari, not Ishukone.
It is with the Caldari State that the fate of our war may lie. Not with Ishukone. I say let them appear before the executives. True to the State. Galm you have clearly misunderstood me. I am a patriot I have made my views on the Federation well known. I don't like the government of the gallente, but do I hate the people? No. I have come to respect my foe and honor them through the way.
The winds guide my soul now through order and honor. I don't like what Ishukone is doing one bit and will never condone their activities. They stomp down on every thing that is Caldari by selling themselves out. I fought over Caldari Prime twice once as a mortal and second as an immortal. Never disgrace my honor or see a wrath second to the Northern wind.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.08 12:02:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Ishukone vs caldari state = civil war. When it starts,im hitching first ride to offer my help to ishukone.Enemy of my enemy is my friend This has happened before no civil war Ishukone would simply A. Be giving a new ceo B. Be absorbed by the other 7 megacorporations.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.08 12:16:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Unless isahikone does not play ball and tells the other mega corps to go suck it....and their people support this action, which is likely as they didnt break under heths rule. Never ever assume your nation is immune to the problems of others They did break under heth rule. They participated in the retaking of Caldari Prime so many years ago. The Caldari people do not fight each other we believe in order not chaos. If Ishukone is found guilty they will have no other friend to rely on. The Federation would try to take advantage but Ishukone is in the middle of Caldari space good luck getting their since Caldari capsuleers own somewhere around 70 to 80% of systems in between our two empires. Besides Ishukone is outnumbered and they are smart they'll just receive a new ceo at best to calm the other megacorporations.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.08 18:41:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Mens repola is trying to bring caldari & gallente faction`s closer each other`s,and reppola is trying it by diplomatic ways.
Now the caldari state is trying punish reppola and ishukone,i fear that heth`s lecacy will live in caldari state long time.
Or maybe we will see heth`s returning in power somehow
Heth is dead. Their is to much bad blood between the Caldari and Gallente to have peace unless we can get a guarantee of freedom from the Federation. If not then their will be war.
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.04.23 22:30:00 -
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Matobar wrote:Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Matobar wrote:Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Matobar wrote:Of course, anything having to do with the Gallente is pure anathema to the Caldari these days. Nevermind we decided to share their homeworld with them. Yes... "Share"... What else would you call it? Well, consider the two times we invaded Caldari Prime: First time, we drove them off completely for about 200 years... Then Tibus came along and took it back. Shoved a titan + support fleet in orbit for good measure. Then we invade again, destroying the Caldari titan and support fleet and attempted to completely dislodge their ground forces, but they fought back hard enough to hold a small majority of the planet. If the Gallente invasion force had their way, the whole planet would be under Gallente control again. Only reason that we have the whole "half & half" division of control of Caldari Prime is that outside entities forced both parties onto the negotiation table. 'Course, that fraction of control is slowly beginning to change... My point was that, the Caldari are only really on the planet because the Gallente are letting them be there. Look at it this way: Caldari Prime is right smack dab in the heart of Gallente territory. If we *really* wanted to, we could take it over, sod the consequences, and no one could stop us. We're not going to do that, because Ishukone is kind of cool, and New Eden politics being what they are we'd be denounced or something. But the reality of the situation is: Caldari Prime is in Gallente Territory. It is surrounded by Gallente territory. Hell, half of the planet is technically Gallente territory. The Caldari have every right to be on their homeworld. They have every right to make a pilgrimage there and live there and grow old there and die there and be buried there. But pretending this supersedes the fact that their planet is within spitting distance of our capital is just dumb. Wow you clearly have missed the fact that on the ground it was hellish. Caldari forces weren't moving from their defensive positions. Not to mention the Caldari navy harassed the Federations forces from dropping orbitals. The battle ended with both sides asking for a truce before the battle got out of hand. The Gallante won the space battle Caldari won the land. (Just got eve source and after reading the gallente section I'm horrified it still exists)
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.04.24 00:04:00 -
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Did you know that admiral visera yanala disobeyed tibus heths' direct order to fire the doomsday weaponry upon Caldari Prime seven times. Their was no threat of the titan ever firing because of honorable Caldari placed in command. The only dishonorable Caldari was Tibus Heth and the provists.
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.04.25 20:06:00 -
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Matobar wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Could have, would have, and should have are irrelevant.
All the matters is what is, and what did happen was the Caldari Ground Forces drew you into a stale mate, forcing the Federation to concede to terms of demilitarizing the planet.
Consequently the Federation destroyed a supremely valuable tactical assets at the demands of a fool.
These phantom Federal armies you speak of were not present, nor did they make themselves present, neither too did the entirety of the State levies make themselves available.
Once again, you're ignoring the point. I'm not talking about a specific instance where we "could have" taken over Caldari Prime. I'm not saying Operation Highlander "would have" been successful if we'd had more troops. All I'm saying is that Caldari Prime continues to exist because the Federation is letting it. If we wanted, really wanted, we could take every Titan in our arsenal right now, and demolish the planet. If we wanted, really wanted, we could take every Federation trooper in existence and take the ************ over, with assured orbital superiority and no reinforcements for the Caldari. When I say "share" Caldari Prime, I mean that we're allowing it to continue its orbit around the sun thanks to our good graces, and the millions of Gallente happily living on the surface. To pretend we couldn't destroy the planet on a whim is willful ignorance. You're right, we were fought to a stalemate on Caldari Prime. Because we decided to stop fighting. The Federation could easily have called in reinforcements, ignored the casualties, and continued trying to take over the planet. Or, we could have bombed every Caldari on it into kingdom come. But even so: Gallente interest still run roughly half the planet. And Ishukone was running the other half. Last I checked, that was the definition of "sharing." If the Gallente did this you would see a fully mobilized State. 8 trillion souls bearing down on your empire. Gallente think they are strong but how long would the Federations citizens fight. Not the small rich class the poor which makes up 90% of your fighting force. How long would the Mannar fight before abandoning the Federation and splitting of like the Intaki or Caldari. Your people don't like war only the rich upper class wants it, because they don't fight it. The State was born from war, loves war, trains each citizen for it. 4 megacorporations supply half the armaments in new eden. Are forces are small but deadly. The Federation is scared of this fact so they can't start an all out war without the lower classes support. (( yummy I love reading eve source next is amarr))
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.04.25 20:31:00 -
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And you aren't getting the point. If the Federation did so it would lose its legitimacy. Last bombing of Caldari Prime the president and all involved were exiled, put in jail, or put to sleep. Reason being? The people didn't want it, rioting began, civil unrest began. The war continued, but the people showed then and there they didn't want war. The Caldari indeed don't love war, but unlike your people the Caldari are born knowing war the are taught how to fight. But look at when tibus heth took Caldari Prime 20 million souls signed up to fight including myself. We take the chance to honor our corporations in battle just like our ancestors did.
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