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Ge0rge W Bush wrote:

knight of 6 wrote:

Dauth Jenkins wrote:

knight of 6 wrote:

judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt.

That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player.

no it doesn't I I won't condemn the post for being written by a fake new player. I will however condemn it for being a ****** post. saying the OP is vague is an understatement it's down right not helpful.

why does NPE suck?
what would you change about the tutorial?
how would you change it?
was academy too short or was it just that matchmaking sucks and put you against stacked teams
did you understand HOW to play after academy because that is it's job, it's not there to ease you into the water it exists to teach the mechanics, matchmaking eases you into the water... or not.
did the "mission" style tutorial work for you and give you an understanding of the game inside and outside of matches?
did you feel the tutorial was too spartan?
which areas if any, need more detail?
was the neocom adequately covered in the tutorial?

you can't just say this sucks and walk off in a huff, that is what children do. we know it sucks, ccp knows it sucks, and you saying it sucks doesn't add anything to the conversation. asking CCP to create a tutorial for their game is borderline psychotic, they know their game inside out and backwards to them all of this is so obvious that no one could possibly screw it up. so tell them how to fix it.

Just a question

How many first timers do you expect to type in al that when trying a new game?
99,99% of then try the (any) game, say it's not for me, moves on.
Do honestly think a gamer are going to put down al work for a game they don't care a rats a+í about?

Regardless i am a vet or not it's a very smart way to get a opinion across to get a discussion going.

Regards

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Ge0rge W Bush Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:02:00 - [1] - Quote So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2699	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:05:00 - [2] - Quote So you tired nothing and quit? Should have asked your friend for a recommendation to a corp. Player run corps provide the instruction for rookies. Ugarte: You despise me, don't you? Rick: If I gave you any thought I probably would.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 714	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:09:00 - [3] - Quote dent 308 wrote: So you tired nothing and quit? Should have asked your friend for a recommendation to a corp. Player run corps provide the instruction for rookies. He should've joined Dust University, but hey we don't really know if CCP can save this game at fanfest anyways so he may come back when the game has a decent tutorial or may never need to if Dust flops. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Deltahawk Durango Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 187	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:27:00 - [4] - Quote at least he didn't biomass... i personally know 10 ppl collecting passive SP on an uninstalled game so my hope is CCP can improve the NPE with pve and keep improving the game so it has a life after Destiny... see ya next winter mr. president I don't believe in an eye for an eye... I believe in two eyes for an eye!
Requin Toblat Glitched Connection 21	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:29:00 - [5] - Quote This unfortunately is all too common an experience for new players. Even if they join a corp like DUST University or the like, the minute they leave the academy matches they are canon fodder for a month or two at least, if they can stick it out that long, being killed almost instantly they spawn, finishing a public or FW match 1/10 for months, is not fun! The new player experience is to be honest abysmal. The game will slowly die (If it isn't already - Hope not, but ?), if new players start the game and get totally disheartened with it after leaving the academy, the retention rate of new players will drop. As some Vets leave, either to take a break from the game or to play new games that have come out, there are still enough high SP players knocking around to make New players say WTF is this s**t! The problem is that the Vets that leave are not being replaced by new players fast enough as far as I can tell.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1695	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:34:00 - [6] - Quote judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt. "I speak for the trees!" Ko6 scout,
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2700	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:57:00 - [7] - Quote In our corp we take rookies into fights all the time. Encourage them to participate on comms with a squad and they can taste a few wins. Provide some insight into skills WTF, and gear. Have vets drop tanks or dropships to let them try out. Encourage rookies to participate and they will stick around. Rookies who never link up with other players, never join a corp, and are never on comms, are food. Ugarte: You despise me, don't you? Rick: If I gave you any thought I probably would.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2793	Posted - 2014.04.07 13:12:00 - [8] - Quote All this should have done are crap answers end of. I player quit the game thus dust failed the in game experince must be 100% good enough to engange and retain the player anything less its the games fault not the players. World of warcraft still is the best example of this. Any out of game tools should be their enhance the experince NOT PLUG THE GAPING HOLE or very crappy designed systems. Thats all im going to say on it the above are industry held truths and best practice and Its about time ccp caught up with the times "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 510	Posted - 2014.04.07 13:16:00 - [9] - Quote I'm not trying to be the " JERK " of this thread but I get skeptical of post's like this one . How do I know that this is not an alt's attempt at propaganda ??? Yes we know that this game has problems but I look at this and I see a proto player in a militia suit . That's just me and knowing some of the ways of some who play this game . I wish that there was a way to be able to tell the difference between an alt and an actual new player . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Khan Hun Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 72	Posted - 2014.04.07 13:34:00 - [10] - Quote To be fair, whether he is the alt of a proto stomping vet or a genuine new player doesn't really matter, I don't think you can really argue his experience is uncharacteristic of a what a lot of new players will experience. I still join skirmishes where a squad of 6 or even queue synced 12 corp members in proto spend 95% of the game kill farming everyone else. Its even worse if your on the team with them, since trying to find anything to do or a person to shoot at is even more frustrating than spawning into sudden death. If Dust is going to do well it will need new players, currently the new player experience is very rough to brutal, and as the established players SPs and ISK resources increase it'll only get worse. There really should be some kind of simple system to give newer players a break, i.e. set up skirmish contracts onto three tiers of difficulty 1) 'Highsec' contracts, pay 1/2 normal isk and 2/3 of normal skill points. 2) 'lowsec' contracts, pay full isk and full skill points 3) 'nullsec contracts' 50k isk buy in to fund transport to the system, 120% isk and 120% skill points (still capped as normal) You could then stick a new player buff on fresh characters that gives them 120% of skill points in highsec contracts for the first 3 months of the characters life. It'd also be great to give new characters weekly 'missions' for the first 3 months of play, give them 50 advanced level fitted suits that have no skill requirements and a SP reward for getting X kills with that suit for example.

NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1360	Posted - 2014.04.07 13:56:00 - [11] - Quote dent 308 wrote: So you tired nothing and quit? Should have asked your friend for a recommendation to a corp. Player run corps provide the instruction for rookies. Provide training, instructions, 1 on 1 sessions, squad work, ISK to buy skill trees and weapons
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 434	Posted - 2014.04.07 13:57:00 - [12] - Quote Recently, the NPE has been the worst it's even been. I've been playing pubs all week, and seeing nothing but proto. Seriously, every match. Oh, and if they weren't running proto, they were tanking, or ADSing. And no matter how many I destroyed, another would take it's place. This game is literally the PC players Protostomping everyone else. Why, because the majority of non PC players have spent all their isk running counters to protostomping in 1.7! .....QQ Complete -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1631	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:04:00 - [13] - Quote ._. Nice Alt bro "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 682	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:07:00 - [14] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: ...Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing..... Nice alt... Tech Guard Recruiting Video
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 1854	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:09:00 - [15] - Quote This is an alt trying to make a point. Notice that he hits the key issues that are on the forum in his first ever short post. Notice the corp he faces just happens to be a well known one that people accuse of PC dominance. He tries to make his reference look casual by only "remembering" some of the name. He also makes sure to hit a home run with the mention of calling a random friend to tell him not to try it (making the "lost customer" argument.) Fake. Move along. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
SteelDark Knight Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 329	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:11:00 - [16] - Quote Wow, a 141 day old new player. Ge0rge
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1049	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:13:00 - [17] - Quote I am sorry to see that you had a bad experience. Yes, DUST does have a rather poor tutorial. I believe it is 1,200 WP to get out of the Academy. This amount to kill 24 people, hacking 24 objectives like turrets, or grabbing 12 hacks on a null cannon. It is pretty damn easy to be able to just get out of the Academy having no idea how to play, fit things, move, or even what the different types of weapons are good at. It does need to change. Though I am curious why you would post that you had a terrible experience and that you weren't coming back. Would be like walking into a restaurant and telling the other tables "I don't like this place, so I am not going to keep coming back." If you want to leave a note for the Developers of the game, I suggest either the Feedback forums or by sending in a ticket. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Spirax Sarco Swiss Bank of New Eden 20	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:17:00 - [18] - Quote he's not new.... C.R.E.A.M.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 711	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:19:00 - [19] - Quote dent 308 wrote: So you tired nothing and quit? Should have asked your friend for a recommendation to a corp. Player run corps provide the instruction for rookies. He's right to be angry. Academy last 1-3 matches depending on the skill of the player. It should last much longer, at least until the person makes 100k WP or something like that. They need to play many matches to learn the game. The learning curve is veer steep. Newb
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2704	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:20:00 - [20] - Quote Can i haz your stuff? I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun

FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 206	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:24:00 - [21] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not Now you know why I keep pushing this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93506&find=unread Director of G.R.A.V.E Battles on Youtube channel: G.R.A.V.E
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 980	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:27:00 - [22] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: This is an alt trying to make a point. Notice that he hits the key issues that are on the forum in his first ever short post. Notice the corp he faces just happens to be a well known one that people accuse of PC dominance. He tries to make his reference look casual by only "remembering" some of the name. He also makes sure to hit a home run with the mention of calling a random friend to tell him not to try it (making the "lost customer" argument.) Fake. Move along. GÇ£Artists use lies to tell the truth." It doesn't matter at all. DUST 514 shouldn't need DUST University members to explain the complicated menu/skill system, or how to be effective on the field. As much as I agree with dent about helping our newbros, the game should be approachable without subdreddit vets coaxing you along saying "it will get better. spec A, B, and C first. And drive my tank a little before you invest yourself." The Academy lasts approx 2-4 matches. It should be much longer than that. Like, you officially get kicked out when you hit 2 million SP. Until then you can play in the kiddie corner. If you are the alt a grizzled vet who doesn't want to run ez mode that long, give them the option to permanently exit the academy early, no option to head back. Hail Bacon
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 1855	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:27:00 - [23] - Quote 88 life time kills. 1.16 KDR. ZERO warpoints or kills this month. SO a total LIE about playing this weekend then. Total BS OP post. Ignore. ALT Alert. Ivan Avogadro wrote: GÇ£Artists use lies to tell the truth." So do liers, and the dishonest, and the criminal and the untrustworthy. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 980	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:31:00 - [24] - Quote so, besides lying about being a newbro who played this weekend, was his argument about the state of new player affairs wrong? Hail Bacon
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 434	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:35:00 - [25] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt. That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player. -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Beld Errmon 1574	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:35:00 - [26] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not Calling BS, your friend directed you to the forums and you chose a trolly name before making a crappy post on the forums, don't buy it at all, I'd say you are a scrub from a scrubby corp chucking a tantrum after playing for a month or two. Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 782	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:38:00 - [27] - Quote I think this is pretty common and shows the difficult of the NPE. Lets wait until fanfest to see what's in store.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1933	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:56:00 - [28] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not So obvious. So sad. But you do have a point. Apparently Rouge is going to fix this come Fanfest, so say the CPM. I support SP rollover.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1338	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:56:00 - [29] - Quote WARNING, ALT DETECTED!
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1362	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:59:00 - [30] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not uninstalled the game and logged on the Forums to tell a tale ?! Hmmm

knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1702	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:08:00 - [31] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: knight of 6 wrote: judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt. That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player. no it doesn't I I won't condemn the post for being written by a fake new player. I will however condemn it for being a ****** post. saying the OP is vague is an understatement it's down right not helpful. why does NPE suck? what would you change about the tutorial? how would you change it? was academy too short or was it just that matchmaking sucks and put you against stacked teams did you understand HOW to play after academy because that is it's job, it's not there to ease you into the water it exists to teach the mechanics, matchmaking eases you into the water... or not. did the "mission" style tutorial work for you and give you an understanding of the game inside and outside of matches? did you feel the tutorial was too spartan? which areas if any, need more detail? was the neocom adequately covered in the tutorial? you can't just say this sucks and walk off in a huff, that is what children do. we know it sucks, ccp knows it sucks, and you saying it sucks doesn't add anything to the conversation. asking CCP to create a tutorial for their game is borderline psychotic, they know their game inside out and backwards to them all of this is so obvious that no one could possibly screw it up. so tell them how to fix it. "I speak for the trees!" Ko6 scout,
Scheherazade VII 400	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:09:00 - [32] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not troll post gets 1/10
TrueXer0 DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:21:00 - [33] - Quote I think a lot of you are lost in the fact that he is an old player making a troll or fake post. The fact is, yes this game has no NPE. Most of the NPE is made by the players. Which is not the way it should be. For any game like this to continue to thrive there needs to be new players continuously coming to the game. A cooking account is not an active part of the community. I myself have many accounts cooking considering they are free to make and I don't even need to have the game downloaded to make a character and let it start cooking. Anyway, The game NEEDs an updated and complete NPE. PvE would be a great start. No one reads the walls of text tutorials. This of course leads to the root issue that the Dust 514 dev team have not been focused on this specific issue, but more with fixing and reworking the game over and over and over again...... For over a year now.... (No CCP, some random new suits and new weapons that are not very much different than the original is not a big improvement as far as game content. Oh and new maps are shinny, but just a distraction from the real issues.)
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1705	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:24:00 - [34] - Quote CCP continuing to dumb down the actual game to try and make it accessible for new players... Making their game boring as hell. Instead of just installing a proper learning curve... a Proper entrance point.. Meh your game is so easy it's not fun anymore now CCP.... Yet new players still can't find an entry point.... TIME TO START ADDRESSING THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 513	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:28:00 - [35] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Recently, the NPE has been the worst it's even been. I've been playing pubs all week, and seeing nothing but proto. Seriously, every match. Oh, and if they weren't running proto, they were tanking, or ADSing. And no matter how many I destroyed, another would take it's place. This game is literally the PC players Protostomping everyone else. Why, because the majority of non PC players have spent all their isk running counters to protostomping in 1.7! .....QQ Complete This is one of the reason that a refund of total infantry would have been appropriate . You already know that those who have SP's will reinvest in what they had or try something different . That way would have been good seeing as how most just sit on skill points anyway any what the hell , if they would have had more now .. at least I would have gotten something out of the deal and made myself more solid as a player . I would have been able to actually skill into a role because now I have the tools to do so . Now I'm just restocking what I already have and trying to find a use for what I don't need so I won't feel silly for skilling into items of another race but in order to compete that was needed . Now it's just the same ole players doing what they do and the same one's that were climbing the hill , just had there climb made steeper . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 623	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:46:00 - [36] - Quote Create a new senior Academy that anybody can play in including vets but with the following restrictions: 1. Only starter fits can be used (CCP please create some more types of fits e.g. Cal scout, gal heavy etc 2. No preformed squads can join. Squads are automatically created when joining the battle. 3. No stats whatsoever are recorded. 4. Everybody receives a set payout of 10k Isk. Enough for a new player to set up a STD suit to play in other game modes but not enough for a vet unless they are running similar suits. 5. This game mode is excluded from events. This should give new players somewhere where they can learn the maps and talk to vets without worrying about deaths.
TrueXer0 DUST University Ivy League 4	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:49:00 - [37] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Create a new senior Academy that anybody can play in including vets but with the following restrictions: 1. Only starter fits can be used (CCP please create some more types of fits e.g. Cal scout, gal heavy etc 2. No preformed squads can join. Squads are automatically created when joining the battle. 3. No stats whatsoever are recorded. 4. Everybody receives a set payout of 10k Isk. Enough for a new player to set up a STD suit to play in other game modes but not enough for a vet unless they are running similar suits. 5. This game mode is excluded from events. This should give new players somewhere where they can learn the maps and talk to vets without worrying about deaths. Or they could just allow us to make custom matches, and invite people.
Ge0rge W Bush Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.04.08 06:55:00 - [38] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: knight of 6 wrote: judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt. That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player. no it doesn't I I won't condemn the post for being written by a fake new player. I will however condemn it for being a ****** post. saying the OP is vague is an understatement it's down right not helpful. why does NPE suck? what would you change about the tutorial? how would you change it? was academy too short or was it just that matchmaking sucks and put you against stacked teams did you understand HOW to play after academy because that is it's job, it's not there to ease you into the water it exists to teach the mechanics, matchmaking eases you into the water... or not. did the "mission" style tutorial work for you and give you an understanding of the game inside and outside of matches? did you feel the tutorial was too spartan? which areas if any, need more detail? was the neocom adequately covered in the tutorial? you can't just say this sucks and walk off in a huff, that is what children do. we know it sucks, ccp knows it sucks, and you saying it sucks doesn't add anything to the conversation. asking CCP to create a tutorial for their game is borderline psychotic, they know their game inside out and backwards to them all of this is so obvious that no one could possibly screw it up. so tell them how to fix it. Just a question How many first timers do you expect to type in al that when trying a new game? 99,99% of then try the (any) game, say it's not for me, moves on. Do honestly think a gamer are going to put down al work for a game they don't care a rats a+í about? Regardless if this is a vet or not it's a very smart way to get a opinion across to get a discussion going. Regards
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 460	Posted - 2014.04.08 06:58:00 - [39] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: knight of 6 wrote: judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt. That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player. no it doesn't I I won't condemn the post for being written by a fake new player. I will however condemn it for being a ****** post. saying the OP is vague is an understatement it's down right not helpful. why does NPE suck? what would you change about the tutorial? how would you change it? was academy too short or was it just that matchmaking sucks and put you against stacked teams did you understand HOW to play after academy because that is it's job, it's not there to ease you into the water it exists to teach the mechanics, matchmaking eases you into the water... or not. did the "mission" style tutorial work for you and give you an understanding of the game inside and outside of matches? did you feel the tutorial was too spartan? which areas if any, need more detail? was the neocom adequately covered in the tutorial? you can't just say this sucks and walk off in a huff, that is what children do. we know it sucks, ccp knows it sucks, and you saying it sucks doesn't add anything to the conversation. asking CCP to create a tutorial for their game is borderline psychotic, they know their game inside out and backwards to them all of this is so obvious that no one could possibly screw it up. so tell them how to fix it. Just a question How many first timers do you expect to type in al that when trying a new game? 99,99% of then try the (any) game, say it's not for me, moves on. Do honestly think a gamer are going to put down al work for a game they don't care a rats a+í about? Regardless i am a vet or not it's a very smart way to get a opinion across to get a discussion going. Regards War never changes
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 121	Posted - 2014.04.08 06:59:00 - [40] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not gg **** bro you planned ahad xd........ been waiting 2 years to be filled with this dissatisfied feeling i have Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP

Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1073	Posted - 2014.04.08 07:09:00 - [41] - Quote Based on your name, I'm not surprised you couldn't figure this game out.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 460	Posted - 2014.04.08 08:33:00 - [42] - Quote AWSOME don't post anything some one might get but hurt about your name POPCORN TIME War never changes


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