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Ge0rge W Bush wrote:

knight of 6 wrote:

Dauth Jenkins wrote:

knight of 6 wrote:

judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt.

That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player.

no it doesn't I I won't condemn the post for being written by a fake new player. I will however condemn it for being a ****** post. saying the OP is vague is an understatement it's down right not helpful.

why does NPE suck?
what would you change about the tutorial?
how would you change it?
was academy too short or was it just that matchmaking sucks and put you against stacked teams
did you understand HOW to play after academy because that is it's job, it's not there to ease you into the water it exists to teach the mechanics, matchmaking eases you into the water... or not.
did the "mission" style tutorial work for you and give you an understanding of the game inside and outside of matches?
did you feel the tutorial was too spartan?
which areas if any, need more detail?
was the neocom adequately covered in the tutorial?

you can't just say this sucks and walk off in a huff, that is what children do. we know it sucks, ccp knows it sucks, and you saying it sucks doesn't add anything to the conversation. asking CCP to create a tutorial for their game is borderline psychotic, they know their game inside out and backwards to them all of this is so obvious that no one could possibly screw it up. so tell them how to fix it.

Just a question

How many first timers do you expect to type in al that when trying a new game?
99,99% of then try the (any) game, say it's not for me, moves on.
Do honestly think a gamer are going to put down al work for a game they don't care a rats a+í about?

Regardless i am a vet or not it's a very smart way to get a opinion across to get a discussion going.

Regards

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knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1702	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:08:00 - [31] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: knight of 6 wrote: judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt. That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player. no it doesn't I I won't condemn the post for being written by a fake new player. I will however condemn it for being a ****** post. saying the OP is vague is an understatement it's down right not helpful. why does NPE suck? what would you change about the tutorial? how would you change it? was academy too short or was it just that matchmaking sucks and put you against stacked teams did you understand HOW to play after academy because that is it's job, it's not there to ease you into the water it exists to teach the mechanics, matchmaking eases you into the water... or not. did the "mission" style tutorial work for you and give you an understanding of the game inside and outside of matches? did you feel the tutorial was too spartan? which areas if any, need more detail? was the neocom adequately covered in the tutorial? you can't just say this sucks and walk off in a huff, that is what children do. we know it sucks, ccp knows it sucks, and you saying it sucks doesn't add anything to the conversation. asking CCP to create a tutorial for their game is borderline psychotic, they know their game inside out and backwards to them all of this is so obvious that no one could possibly screw it up. so tell them how to fix it. "I speak for the trees!" Ko6 scout,
Scheherazade VII 400	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:09:00 - [32] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not troll post gets 1/10
TrueXer0 DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:21:00 - [33] - Quote I think a lot of you are lost in the fact that he is an old player making a troll or fake post. The fact is, yes this game has no NPE. Most of the NPE is made by the players. Which is not the way it should be. For any game like this to continue to thrive there needs to be new players continuously coming to the game. A cooking account is not an active part of the community. I myself have many accounts cooking considering they are free to make and I don't even need to have the game downloaded to make a character and let it start cooking. Anyway, The game NEEDs an updated and complete NPE. PvE would be a great start. No one reads the walls of text tutorials. This of course leads to the root issue that the Dust 514 dev team have not been focused on this specific issue, but more with fixing and reworking the game over and over and over again...... For over a year now.... (No CCP, some random new suits and new weapons that are not very much different than the original is not a big improvement as far as game content. Oh and new maps are shinny, but just a distraction from the real issues.)
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1705	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:24:00 - [34] - Quote CCP continuing to dumb down the actual game to try and make it accessible for new players... Making their game boring as hell. Instead of just installing a proper learning curve... a Proper entrance point.. Meh your game is so easy it's not fun anymore now CCP.... Yet new players still can't find an entry point.... TIME TO START ADDRESSING THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 513	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:28:00 - [35] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Recently, the NPE has been the worst it's even been. I've been playing pubs all week, and seeing nothing but proto. Seriously, every match. Oh, and if they weren't running proto, they were tanking, or ADSing. And no matter how many I destroyed, another would take it's place. This game is literally the PC players Protostomping everyone else. Why, because the majority of non PC players have spent all their isk running counters to protostomping in 1.7! .....QQ Complete This is one of the reason that a refund of total infantry would have been appropriate . You already know that those who have SP's will reinvest in what they had or try something different . That way would have been good seeing as how most just sit on skill points anyway any what the hell , if they would have had more now .. at least I would have gotten something out of the deal and made myself more solid as a player . I would have been able to actually skill into a role because now I have the tools to do so . Now I'm just restocking what I already have and trying to find a use for what I don't need so I won't feel silly for skilling into items of another race but in order to compete that was needed . Now it's just the same ole players doing what they do and the same one's that were climbing the hill , just had there climb made steeper . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 623	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:46:00 - [36] - Quote Create a new senior Academy that anybody can play in including vets but with the following restrictions: 1. Only starter fits can be used (CCP please create some more types of fits e.g. Cal scout, gal heavy etc 2. No preformed squads can join. Squads are automatically created when joining the battle. 3. No stats whatsoever are recorded. 4. Everybody receives a set payout of 10k Isk. Enough for a new player to set up a STD suit to play in other game modes but not enough for a vet unless they are running similar suits. 5. This game mode is excluded from events. This should give new players somewhere where they can learn the maps and talk to vets without worrying about deaths.
TrueXer0 DUST University Ivy League 4	Posted - 2014.04.07 19:49:00 - [37] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Create a new senior Academy that anybody can play in including vets but with the following restrictions: 1. Only starter fits can be used (CCP please create some more types of fits e.g. Cal scout, gal heavy etc 2. No preformed squads can join. Squads are automatically created when joining the battle. 3. No stats whatsoever are recorded. 4. Everybody receives a set payout of 10k Isk. Enough for a new player to set up a STD suit to play in other game modes but not enough for a vet unless they are running similar suits. 5. This game mode is excluded from events. This should give new players somewhere where they can learn the maps and talk to vets without worrying about deaths. Or they could just allow us to make custom matches, and invite people.
Ge0rge W Bush Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.04.08 06:55:00 - [38] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: knight of 6 wrote: judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt. That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player. no it doesn't I I won't condemn the post for being written by a fake new player. I will however condemn it for being a ****** post. saying the OP is vague is an understatement it's down right not helpful. why does NPE suck? what would you change about the tutorial? how would you change it? was academy too short or was it just that matchmaking sucks and put you against stacked teams did you understand HOW to play after academy because that is it's job, it's not there to ease you into the water it exists to teach the mechanics, matchmaking eases you into the water... or not. did the "mission" style tutorial work for you and give you an understanding of the game inside and outside of matches? did you feel the tutorial was too spartan? which areas if any, need more detail? was the neocom adequately covered in the tutorial? you can't just say this sucks and walk off in a huff, that is what children do. we know it sucks, ccp knows it sucks, and you saying it sucks doesn't add anything to the conversation. asking CCP to create a tutorial for their game is borderline psychotic, they know their game inside out and backwards to them all of this is so obvious that no one could possibly screw it up. so tell them how to fix it. Just a question How many first timers do you expect to type in al that when trying a new game? 99,99% of then try the (any) game, say it's not for me, moves on. Do honestly think a gamer are going to put down al work for a game they don't care a rats a+í about? Regardless if this is a vet or not it's a very smart way to get a opinion across to get a discussion going. Regards
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 460	Posted - 2014.04.08 06:58:00 - [39] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: knight of 6 wrote: judging by his spelling, he's either 6 or a lol alt trying not to look like a lol alt. That doesn't change the overall problem underlying why most people find this game hard to pick up. CCP is notorious for "the Learning Cliff" but in this game, it's to hard for a casual player. no it doesn't I I won't condemn the post for being written by a fake new player. I will however condemn it for being a ****** post. saying the OP is vague is an understatement it's down right not helpful. why does NPE suck? what would you change about the tutorial? how would you change it? was academy too short or was it just that matchmaking sucks and put you against stacked teams did you understand HOW to play after academy because that is it's job, it's not there to ease you into the water it exists to teach the mechanics, matchmaking eases you into the water... or not. did the "mission" style tutorial work for you and give you an understanding of the game inside and outside of matches? did you feel the tutorial was too spartan? which areas if any, need more detail? was the neocom adequately covered in the tutorial? you can't just say this sucks and walk off in a huff, that is what children do. we know it sucks, ccp knows it sucks, and you saying it sucks doesn't add anything to the conversation. asking CCP to create a tutorial for their game is borderline psychotic, they know their game inside out and backwards to them all of this is so obvious that no one could possibly screw it up. so tell them how to fix it. Just a question How many first timers do you expect to type in al that when trying a new game? 99,99% of then try the (any) game, say it's not for me, moves on. Do honestly think a gamer are going to put down al work for a game they don't care a rats a+í about? Regardless i am a vet or not it's a very smart way to get a opinion across to get a discussion going. Regards War never changes
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 121	Posted - 2014.04.08 06:59:00 - [40] - Quote Ge0rge W Bush wrote: So after I friend talked me into trying dust I played this weekend. First ACADAMY was fun I loved it. Then I started to play the other game modes. Got stomped in factional warfare buy a corp ancient somthing. Then I tryed the other game modes I could not move before I got killed. Where am I sopose to learn about this game ? So dust is uninstalled and I caled my friend telling him this is a crapy game. C U not gg **** bro you planned ahad xd........ been waiting 2 years to be filled with this dissatisfied feeling i have Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP

Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1073	Posted - 2014.04.08 07:09:00 - [41] - Quote Based on your name, I'm not surprised you couldn't figure this game out.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 460	Posted - 2014.04.08 08:33:00 - [42] - Quote AWSOME don't post anything some one might get but hurt about your name POPCORN TIME War never changes


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