|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
191
   |
Posted - 2014.04.06 22:50:00 -
[1] - Quote
I'd love to see these tankers try and use av as an infantryman. You guys seriously dont know how hard it is to kill a tank with little to no help. Try use a standard fit with standard swarms and tell me that the skills he has listed dont have any use. Smg skill, hell any sidearm you like is necessary when your main weapon only hurts vehicles. The fit he has is a good av fit. You would not be able to make an adv fit as good as this. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
191
|
Posted - 2014.04.06 22:51:00 -
[2] - Quote
jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:
I like how you tossed a bunch of unnecessary crap in there to artificially bloat the SP requirement
I also like how you presented a reason as to why any of that stuff is unnecessary. Shield mods are nit av Damage mods are not av Biotics are not av Smg lvl 5 is not av Ammo count is your fault So much unnecessary crap.
Go ahead and try it without them skills. I bet you die more. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
191
|
Posted - 2014.04.06 23:15:00 -
[3] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:I'd love to see these tankers try and use av as an infantryman. You guys seriously dont know how hard it is to kill a tank with little to no help. Try use a standard fit with standard swarms and tell me that the skills he has listed dont have any use. Smg skill, hell any sidearm you like is necessary when your main weapon only hurts vehicles. The fit he has is a good av fit. You would not be able to make an adv fit as good as this. I do...but I'm not fool enough to try it solo. If I want an HAV dead it will die, our squad will co-ordinate a small AV team to hunt it down and destroy it. Why else would I play a team based game if I didn't want to work with a team.....and before you start accusing me of being a solo tanker I am not. I use on my fits and require 2 gunners to be fully effective against well fit solo battle tanks.
What about those that dont have a squad? They should not be allowed to kill vehicles? 1 person should be able to kill a tank. Im not suggesting a militia swarm should kill a well fit tank. But a proto swarm should be able to destroy a tank in 4-5 shots . Regardless of your modules you are still only using a standard tank. If proto tanks came out tomorrow they would not die with the way av is. A squad of av would struggle. You must know this. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
192
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 00:22:00 -
[4] - Quote
I dont want tanks to die just by looking at them. I just think that if a tank can kill whatever it wants with relative ease, then av should be able to kill a tank solo. Not easily. just one person should have the ability to kill a tank if they have the sp in the right areas. They have to remove almost all form of anti infantry in order to kill a tank whereas a tanker loses very little anti infantry capability but can still destroy vehicles easily. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
192
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 00:56:00 -
[5] - Quote
Pvt Numnutz wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:I dont want tanks to die just by looking at them. I just think that if a tank can kill whatever it wants with relative ease, then av should be able to kill a tank solo. Not easily. just one person should have the ability to kill a tank if they have the sp in the right areas. They have to remove almost all form of anti infantry in order to kill a tank whereas a tanker loses very little anti infantry capability but can still destroy vehicles easily. I use missile tanks, it's very hard to kill infantry. To gain anti infantry abilities I fit rail guns to my tank as well and have gunners man them, what some call teamwork. I also cannot engage a shield tank without av or gunner support, so I cannot engage anything I want with relative ease. If a player can solo a tank with swarms then it looses its effect as a force multiplyer, and we got back to the days of tanks hiding in fear from one swarm launcher. This is what you are suggesting. I believe that two skilled av should bring down a skilled tank and that teams should bring vehicles to the battlefield not only to fight infantry, but to fight other vehicles as well. Otherwise there isn't much of a role for them.
If you hit something it dies. You can still kill with relative ease. The way swarms are at the moment you would have to be a complete idiot to get killed by one person seeing as how the range is 175m. And dont bring force multipliers into it. 8 tankers call in tanks. It would take the entire team of competant av to kill them leaving no anti infantry capability. Tanks would get smashed if they were called in to counter them. It creates an imbalance. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
192
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 01:20:00 -
[6] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:I dont want tanks to die just by looking at them. I just think that if a tank can kill whatever it wants with relative ease, then av should be able to kill a tank solo. Not easily. just one person should have the ability to kill a tank if they have the sp in the right areas. They have to remove almost all form of anti infantry in order to kill a tank whereas a tanker loses very little anti infantry capability but can still destroy vehicles easily. I use missile tanks, it's very hard to kill infantry. To gain anti infantry abilities I fit rail guns to my tank as well and have gunners man them, what some call teamwork. I also cannot engage a shield tank without av or gunner support, so I cannot engage anything I want with relative ease. If a player can solo a tank with swarms then it looses its effect as a force multiplyer, and we got back to the days of tanks hiding in fear from one swarm launcher. This is what you are suggesting. I believe that two skilled av should bring down a skilled tank and that teams should bring vehicles to the battlefield not only to fight infantry, but to fight other vehicles as well. Otherwise there isn't much of a role for them. If you hit something it dies. You can still kill with relative ease. The way swarms are at the moment you would have to be a complete idiot to get killed by one person seeing as how the range is 175m. And dont bring force multipliers into it. 8 tankers call in tanks. It would take the entire team of competant av to kill them leaving no anti infantry capability. Tanks would get smashed if they were called in to counter them. It creates an imbalance. How can they hack points?
They have 8 others doing it for them |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
192
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 03:14:00 -
[7] - Quote
Are you guys smoking? You are all adamant that it should take more than one person to kill a tank. If your team had 8 tanks then you would say that it takes 2 people to kill each tank. Which would mean all of the infantry (assuming that the team doesnt have an equal number of tanks which is mote likely) would be occupied with tanks. Also, im pretty sure 8 tanks would rip through most infantry rendering hacking almost pointless. Just clone them. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
192
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 03:47:00 -
[8] - Quote
I would be doing something about it. Using swarms. do you not see a problem with needing vehicles to destroy other vehicles? If a team doesnt have tanks they would be at a disadvantage even with av. Personally rolling around in a tank is boring. I only do it if its necessary and thats just to kill tanks with a dbl dmg mod sica. It makes no sense that i need to call in a mlt tank to kill a tank when i have proto swarms. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
193
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 04:36:00 -
[9] - Quote
One solution i have is this: remove militia vehicles and lower the cap on amount of vehicles to per type. Say 2-3 tanks, 3-4 lavs and 2-3 DS. It would stop tank spam and show who has at least some sp in tanking. However, untill the balance is just right between av and vehicles they should stay. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
201
|
Posted - 2014.04.08 03:07:00 -
[10] - Quote
Alpha 443-6732 wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:I'd love to see these tankers try and use av as an infantryman. You guys seriously dont know how hard it is to kill a tank with little to no help. Try use a standard fit with standard swarms and tell me that the skills he has listed dont have any use. Smg skill, hell any sidearm you like is necessary when your main weapon only hurts vehicles. The fit he has is a good av fit. You would not be able to make an adv fit as good as this. I do... and I kill tanks with my dren swarms. I also have a proto missile fit that I spent 20mil sp on that is invalidated by even the worst players using a militia railgun with damage mods.
On your own or with something else shooting it? I refuse to believe that you can kill a tank on your own with a dren swarm. And about the rail. Dont complain about it here. If tankers didnt want everything about tanking to be cheaper this whole mess with tank spam and super dmg mods wouldnt have happened. It needs fixing yes but for now you have to deal with it. We had to deal with super tanks for near 4 months. |
|
|
|
|
| |
|