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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:

Kain Spero wrote:

Ludvig Enraga wrote:

Kain Spero wrote:

Cross posting this here.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153939&find=unread

You may not like me. I may have burned down you home in Molden Heath, but that doesn't mean we can't take a step back and look at some simple ways to make Planetary Conquest better. Please take a look at the linked thread and discuss the proposals and make some suggestions. Just note this is geared towards low bandwidth (developer time and resources) suggestions that can primarily be done in a hot fix. Thank you again for your thoughts and your time.

htf are you still a CPM?

What I do as a CPM and what I do as a player are two different things. It seems there are some players that have trouble making that distinction still.

As Kain Spero the player I will crush your corporation until there is nothing left.

As David the CPM I will do everything in my power to make sure this game works as well as it can for the health of the community and the longevity of the game.

Kain,

I respect the accomplishments you've made in the game and I appreciate the fact that you are the most active in-game CPM we have (at least that I can tell). You clearly don't have any requirement to respond in this or any other thread and you have been engaging so again...i respect that.

I guess my basic question is how do square your statement above with the very simple fact that the current state of PC that you've facilitated is in direct opposition to your comment that you want to do everything in you're power to make the game work, create a healthy community, and increase the lifespan of the game? Don't misunderstand me, I can easily seperate in-game vs out of game discussions and think that's actually part of the fun...what I am asking is where do you personnaly see your priorities given the conflict between the two diametrically opposed positions? At the moment...it would appear that you prioritize your in-game activities over your stated CPM goals. I know it's not as simple as that but wanted to tee up the question.

As for advantages being the CPM maybe giving you...I don't believe that you are directly using your CPM position to gain adavantage but that doesn't mean that it doesn't inform your decisions in-game to some degree. That's normal and expected, I've heard more than one CSM member discuss this very thing and it's no different for Dust. There is fairly clear line about how this works and where it crosses into dangerous territory...I don't think you've crossed it but it doesn't change how folks can easily perceive that.

Additionally...I actually think that quite a few of the more vocal a$$hats on the forums that happen to be in ERA, DNS, NF, ect really do want the best for the game. One on one they are can be great guys to talk with and share tactics, fits, or just squad up with and have fun and learn to from them. The majority of the folks don't see any of that and frankly all they see is the "in-game" posts or actions and that colors everyone's perceptions because that's the only reference they get. I'm not advocating anyone make a hokey PR push...just reminding you to consider that when engaging folks.


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Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 211	Posted - 2014.04.08 17:35:00 - [1] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Kain Spero wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Kain Spero wrote: What I do as a CPM and what I do as a player are two different things. And yet you are the same person. I don't see this as a justification. I understand that some players will always remain too ignorant to understand it. Ignorant? On the contrary my friend. Please explain to me how you can possibly keep your professionalism under the NDA rule and yet perform as an active player in the game, explain to me how this is not an issue and/or an unfair advantage. Please, I am not insulting or attacking you I'm just pointing out my opinion, do not insult my intelligence by calling me ignorant. You sir, have never played table top RPG like dungeons and dragons its written all over your post. There is a difference between an actor during its acting and the person that pays its taxes and goes to the toilet !
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 211	Posted - 2014.04.08 17:43:00 - [2] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Cross posting this here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153939&find=unread You may not like me. I may have burned down you home in Molden Heath, but that doesn't mean we can't take a step back and look at some simple ways to make Planetary Conquest better. Please take a look at the linked thread and discuss the proposals and make some suggestions. Just note this is geared towards low bandwidth (developer time and resources) suggestions that can primarily be done in a hot fix. Thank you again for your thoughts and your time. htf are you still a CPM? What I do as a CPM and what I do as a player are two different things. It seems there are some players that have trouble making that distinction still. As Kain Spero the player I will crush your corporation until there is nothing left. As David the CPM I will do everything in my power to make sure this game works as well as it can for the health of the community and the longevity of the game. Kain, I respect the accomplishments you've made in the game and I appreciate the fact that you are the most active in-game CPM we have (at least that I can tell). You clearly don't have any requirement to respond in this or any other thread and you have been engaging so again...i respect that. I guess my basic question is how do square your statement above with the very simple fact that the current state of PC that you've facilitated is in direct opposition to your comment that you want to do everything in you're power to make the game work, create a healthy community, and increase the lifespan of the game? Don't misunderstand me, I can easily seperate in-game vs out of game discussions and think that's actually part of the fun...what I am asking is where do you personnaly see your priorities given the conflict between the two diametrically opposed positions? At the moment...it would appear that you prioritize your in-game activities over your stated CPM goals. I know it's not as simple as that but wanted to tee up the question. As for advantages being the CPM maybe giving you...I don't believe that you are directly using your CPM position to gain adavantage but that doesn't mean that it doesn't inform your decisions in-game to some degree. That's normal and expected, I've heard more than one CSM member discuss this very thing and it's no different for Dust. There is fairly clear line about how this works and where it crosses into dangerous territory...I don't think you've crossed it but it doesn't change how folks can easily perceive that. Additionally...I actually think that quite a few of the more vocal a$$hats on the forums that happen to be in ERA, DNS, NF, ect really do want the best for the game. One on one they are can be great guys to talk with and share tactics, fits, or just squad up with and have fun and learn to from them. The majority of the folks don't see any of that and frankly all they see is the "in-game" posts or actions and that colors everyone's perceptions because that's the only reference they get. I'm not advocating anyone make a hokey PR push...just reminding you to consider that when engaging folks. If it was not obvious yet, Kain and the other DNS dude are actually doing Research and Development on DUST, testing and stretching its limits as players, and for that I have their utmost respect because this game is still a Beta game. How else can we prevent disastrous consequence and unbalance when Dust is opened for all EVE planets ? Also, this downtime permits me to study for my finals :P