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Alena Ventrallis
PAND3M0N1UM
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:46:00 -
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Awesome community response guys. I'll be gone til Sunday the 14th, but Monday I'll be on and mailing people.
That's what you get!! - DA Rick
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
460
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:31:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:The Forge Gun itself isn't broken. It's the charge time reduction bugging out due to the skill not applying right when you spawn. Give it a bit to kick in, and it'll fire like normal.
And to those saying you can't out DPS an Armor Rep stacker, Tanks have this little thing called a weak spot.
Get in an LAV and flank the tank. Take the long way around to make sure it doesn't see you and get out of the LAV some distance away so it doesn't hear the LAV and get scared and flee because it'll probably think that you're a JLAV. The Forge has a 300m range, use it to your advantage. If you can't hit the weak spot from long distance well you just need to learn how to aim.
Breach is good for one shotting tanks. As long as they have no Plates or Extenders and their Hardener is off, you will one-shot them. Although recently I've noticed that tanks run at least one Plate/Extender more often than not, so the one-shot potential isn't as common, but you can still easily two-shot them.
Assault is also good, you won't be one-shotting anything, but it's still effective and can apply damage faster. You just have to aim more shots.
A single Forge Gunner can take out most tanks with this tactic. Armor Reps are the most troublesome, but still manageable. Bring another Forger along or even a Swarmer(or even a PLC or Mass Driver) and the only tanks that'll maybe survive are the ones that nitro away at the first sign of danger.
I know, you actually have to use some amount of effort and tactics to solo a tank instead of just firing in it's general direction and expecting to win.
Let's look at the numbers instead of the claims.
A militia Sica from the store comes with 4150 HP
A Soma, 5200
A Wirkomi BFG does 2100 damage. If you have Lev.5 Prof 5 w/ Complex Heavy Damage Modifier and you hit the fuel cells and get the 168% damage bonus you get 4260 damage. So, you can take out a Sica in one shot, given these conditions. You can't take out a Soma or any other tank. IIf the Sica has any shield extenders or armor plate you can't one shot it. If you only have prof. 4, you can't one shot it. If you miss the fuel cells, you don't even come close. I'd file this claim as possible, but implausible.
Because, that's why.
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Rygharr Sturmeister
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.11 13:51:00 -
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If you're going to take all the trouble to call in a LAV to try to find a position that is:
A. Behind a tank that is very likely not stationary, and
B. Is safe from enemy infantry,
Then you may as well use a JLAV.
Supernus Gigas wrote:The Forge Gun itself isn't broken. It's the charge time reduction bugging out due to the skill not applying right when you spawn. Give it a bit to kick in, and it'll fire like normal.
And to those saying you can't out DPS an Armor Rep stacker, Tanks have this little thing called a weak spot.
Get in an LAV and flank the tank. Take the long way around to make sure it doesn't see you and get out of the LAV some distance away so it doesn't hear the LAV and get scared and flee because it'll probably think that you're a JLAV. The Forge has a 300m range, use it to your advantage. If you can't hit the weak spot from long distance well you just need to learn how to aim.
Breach is good for one shotting tanks. As long as they have no Plates or Extenders and their Hardener is off, you will one-shot them. Although recently I've noticed that tanks run at least one Plate/Extender more often than not, so the one-shot potential isn't as common, but you can still easily two-shot them.
Assault is also good, you won't be one-shotting anything, but it's still effective and can apply damage faster. You just have to aim more shots.
A single Forge Gunner can take out most tanks with this tactic. Armor Reps are the most troublesome, but still manageable. Bring another Forger along or even a Swarmer(or even a PLC or Mass Driver) and the only tanks that'll maybe survive are the ones that nitro away at the first sign of danger.
I know, you actually have to use some amount of effort and tactics to solo a tank instead of just firing in it's general direction and expecting to win.
OP, I also have Op 5 and Prof 5 in FG's, as well as Cal Sentinel 5 and a small stock of Gastun's. Just in case you need someone at odd hour (I assume you're in the U.S.?), I live in the GMT +8 time zone. |
yep derrith again
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.11 13:53:00 -
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I would help, but my Forge prof. is only 3, and I run an AK.0 instead of CK.0, the best forge suit is CK.0 BTW. |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
799
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Posted - 2014.04.11 14:09:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:I need a forge gunner to run some testing against my tank. I want someone with prof 5 and proto modules. I want the most possible forge damage against my highest repping tank under a number of situations. The tests will be video recorded and posted to the forums to see if, and if so under what conditions, a maxed out forge gun can kill a repper tank solo.
Anyone who wishes to help, please message me in game. forge is completely broken so you won't get any volunteers
Yes I have prof 5 but until they fix forges it's not really fun nor will the tests be conclusive.... lets wait until the hotfix. |
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