DUST Search - [Bug] Aim goes crazy with breach scrambler pistol (video included)

Niccolo deLuce wrote:

Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:

Niccolo deLuce wrote:

Disclaimer: It's a crappy video, sorry. I had to try to dig out my camera while it was still going on. At the end of the video the problem resolved itself, but lasted for ~3 minutes while it was happening. Luckily the guy was in a logi suit and only had a Thale's so I was able to still kill him eventually.

Breach Scrambler Pistol bug

This has happened to me three times so far in the last 1.5 weeks, and I've been playing a lot, so it's really hard to replicate. Almost all of my suits have a breach scrambler pistol, and I use it a lot so this is pretty uncommon. What happens is I run up on somebody who is camping, de-cloak, switch to my breach scrambler pistol and start head-shotting them. Generally this works fine, but whenever it takes ~3 or more shots my aim gets hijacked and starts going crazy. I end up staring at the sky or the floor spinning circles and there's almost nothing I can do. If I switch weapons it goes back to normal instantly, and then returns when I bring the pistol back out. It's happened on at least two different suits, one was tac sniper/breach scrambler pistol, the other was toxin smg/breach (both with cloaks), the third I don't remember for sure what suit I was wearing. If there are any other details that you need, just let me know and I'll try to remember.

Deactivate auto-aim.

Post is 2 weeks old man, I've mentioned that auto aim wasn't on since the OP.

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Niccolo deLuce RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 39	Posted - 2014.04.04 18:25:00 - [1] - Quote Disclaimer: It's a crappy video, sorry. I had to try to dig out my camera while it was still going on. At the end of the video the problem resolved itself, but lasted for ~3 minutes while it was happening. Luckily the guy was in a logi suit and only had a Thale's so I was able to still kill him eventually. Breach Scrambler Pistol bug This has happened to me three times so far in the last 1.5 weeks, and I've been playing a lot, so it's really hard to replicate. Almost all of my suits have a breach scrambler pistol, and I use it a lot so this is pretty uncommon. What happens is I run up on somebody who is camping, de-cloak, switch to my breach scrambler pistol and start head-shotting them. Generally this works fine, but whenever it takes ~3 or more shots my aim gets hijacked and starts going crazy. I end up staring at the sky or the floor spinning circles and there's almost nothing I can do. If I switch weapons it goes back to normal instantly, and then returns when I bring the pistol back out. It's happened on at least two different suits, one was tac sniper/breach scrambler pistol, the other was toxin smg/breach (both with cloaks), the third I don't remember for sure what suit I was wearing. If there are any other details that you need, just let me know and I'll try to remember.
Kn1qht INTERDIMENSIONAL SPACE KAT FEDERATION 36	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:36:00 - [2] - Quote my advice .. don't use anything breach EVER . THIRD EYE \| O.E.G\| WIN AUR !
alten hilt DUST University Ivy League 157	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:58:00 - [3] - Quote Niccolo deLuce wrote: Disclaimer: It's a crappy video, sorry. I had to try to dig out my camera while it was still going on. At the end of the video the problem resolved itself, but lasted for ~3 minutes while it was happening. Luckily the guy was in a logi suit and only had a Thale's so I was able to still kill him eventually. Breach Scrambler Pistol bug This has happened to me three times so far in the last 1.5 weeks, and I've been playing a lot, so it's really hard to replicate. Almost all of my suits have a breach scrambler pistol, and I use it a lot so this is pretty uncommon. What happens is I run up on somebody who is camping, de-cloak, switch to my breach scrambler pistol and start head-shotting them. Generally this works fine, but whenever it takes ~3 or more shots my aim gets hijacked and starts going crazy. I end up staring at the sky or the floor spinning circles and there's almost nothing I can do. If I switch weapons it goes back to normal instantly, and then returns when I bring the pistol back out. It's happened on at least two different suits, one was tac sniper/breach scrambler pistol, the other was toxin smg/breach (both with cloaks), the third I don't remember for sure what suit I was wearing. If there are any other details that you need, just let me know and I'll try to remember. This happens to me, but I've never noticed it tied to a particular weapon, and I never run breach ScP. I do run ScP a lot though. I've always just thought it was a bug in the auto aim. I'll start paying attention to what weapons this happens with.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2741	Posted - 2014.04.04 22:14:00 - [4] - Quote Kn1qht wrote: my advice .. don't use anything breach EVER . The breach scrambler pistol is actually one of the few breach weapons that is actually really great and well worth using, especially since the other scrambler pistols got ROF nerfed. With prof 5 and 2 complex damage mods (even after nerfing) one headshot does over 700 damage (to shields at least). Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Kage Roth Wolf-Monkey Bastards 119	Posted - 2014.04.05 01:19:00 - [5] - Quote Same bug, same direction, different gun. Suit = G/1 Scout Gun = T-12 Ion Pistol I was fighting someone just standing still, overheated for the first shot and when it cooled down my gun started pulling down and right. Switched to nova knives and it went away. Switched back to ion, bug still on. Lasted until I switched fits and a supply station. BTW, I didn't die in the fight, friendly killed the enemy for me.
Niccolo deLuce RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 39	Posted - 2014.04.05 03:00:00 - [6] - Quote Well I'm glad that I'm not hallucinating and it's not just me. At least it doesn't happen very often. And yeah, like Django Quik said, the breach scram is pretty good. It's fun getting the occasional one shot kill from 30 meters with a pistol.
Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 39	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:27:00 - [7] - Quote Bringing this back up since it happened twice again yesterday, but this time with a combat rifle. Tinfoil hat time... This seems like a really terribly implemented anti-aimbot. I'll try to test it today but I can't stack the other team to let me try. Whenever I fire a lot of shots in quick succession with zero missing their targets, this happens. Yesterday it was with equipment both times. Red team threw down 30+ pieces of equipment and then ran off, I sprinted around and destroyed about 8 in maybe 3 seconds without missing one shot before my aim got hijacked. Same situation both times.
Hawbuck Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.04.16 07:59:00 - [8] - Quote I've experienced this bug with a scrambler rifle and some other weapon I can't remember now. For me the bug ceases after death and respawn. I'm using keyboard/mouse, maybe it's somehow connected.
Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 39	Posted - 2014.04.16 11:04:00 - [9] - Quote m/kb here too usually. 2/5 of the time the problem has resolved itself after a couple minutes. the other 3 out of 5 times I had to finally die before I could get control of my weapon back
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2292	Posted - 2014.04.17 10:07:00 - [10] - Quote This is a bug caused by deadzone being incorrectly implemented in the emulation. I know because I am using a GIMX adapter and see this kind of behaviour when I do mouse calibration of the deadzone.

Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 39	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:57:00 - [11] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: This is a bug caused by deadzone being incorrectly implemented in the emulation. I know because I am using a GIMX adapter and see this kind of behaviour when I do mouse calibration of the deadzone. Sounds plausible, I don't have any experience with working with that. Anyways, bumping the thread again and submitting a ticket because it's happened to me 5 times TODAY and cost me a suit every time.
Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 39	Posted - 2014.04.19 17:10:00 - [12] - Quote And again. That's about 10 times in the last 2 days now. Laser Rifle this time It continues to spin as long as my clone isn't terminated as well.
Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 43	Posted - 2014.04.21 08:10:00 - [13] - Quote And again.

CCP Imagine Breaker C C P C C P Alliance 60	Posted - 2014.04.21 09:11:00 - [14] - Quote Hey Guys, Sorry for the inconvenience that the bug caused. Your posts and videos are very helpful. We are looking into this. I have one question: Does it always happen with M+KB? or it appears with PS3 controller as well? Thanks:)

Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 43	Posted - 2014.04.21 09:22:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Imagine Breaker wrote: Hey Guys, Sorry for the inconvenience that the bug caused. Your posts and videos are very helpful. We are looking into this. I have one question: Does it always happen with M+KB? or it appears with PS3 controller as well? Thanks:) Cool, thanks for the response. The only times I use the DS3 are driving/flying/swarms/stuff like that, so this only happens for me with the M+KB. I wish I had a way to capture gameplay, but for now all I can do is grab a camera once something starts happening, so I can't get a video of whatever is going on that triggers it.
M Zwei Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 28	Posted - 2014.04.21 10:00:00 - [16] - Quote it would be solved by turning off the aim-assist at the controller option menu
Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 43	Posted - 2014.04.21 10:10:00 - [17] - Quote M Zwei wrote: it would be solved by turning off the aim-assist at the controller option menu Nope
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1297	Posted - 2014.04.21 11:08:00 - [18] - Quote Kn1qht wrote: my advice .. don't use anything breach EVER . Forge gun. *Assassination is my thing.*
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion League of Infamy 738	Posted - 2014.04.21 11:27:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Imagine Breaker wrote: I have one question: Does it always happen with M+KB? or it appears with PS3 controller as well? I'm not sure about this pistol, but when I use MKB, about the first second-and-a-half after I spawn the first time in a match, the sensitivity is off the charts. o/
Rabbit C515 Die Valkyrja Dirt Nap Squad. 14	Posted - 2014.04.21 11:59:00 - [20] - Quote this issue seem reported before https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1742755 using M+KB and turn aim assist on will trigger this issue

Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 43	Posted - 2014.04.21 13:49:00 - [21] - Quote Rabbit C515 wrote: this issue seem reported before https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1742755 using M+KB and turn aim assist on will trigger this issue Sounds pretty similar, but aim assist is off, and moving the controller definitely does not fix it. You can fight against it similar to sniper scope sway, but it does not cancel it out at all and it continues with that behavior for a few minutes or until death.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2112	Posted - 2014.04.21 15:20:00 - [22] - Quote I used to think that turning aim assist off would fix it, but mine has been disabled for ages and it still happens. Most of the time when it happens it is right after I spawned, but it gives control back to me after I jerk the mouse in the opposite direction of the spin. Looking back over all the instances where I started dancing like that during combat, it does seem like it happened when I had someone dead to rights and would have finished them off without missing a shot, had it not been for this bug. If they can't fix it they should at least make it so your character starts writing 514 on the walls over and over heh. I normally play logi so I've never noticed if switching weapons stops it.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2196	Posted - 2014.04.21 16:27:00 - [23] - Quote Niccolo deLuce wrote: Disclaimer: It's a crappy video, sorry. I had to try to dig out my camera while it was still going on. At the end of the video the problem resolved itself, but lasted for ~3 minutes while it was happening. Luckily the guy was in a logi suit and only had a Thale's so I was able to still kill him eventually. Breach Scrambler Pistol bug This has happened to me three times so far in the last 1.5 weeks, and I've been playing a lot, so it's really hard to replicate. Almost all of my suits have a breach scrambler pistol, and I use it a lot so this is pretty uncommon. What happens is I run up on somebody who is camping, de-cloak, switch to my breach scrambler pistol and start head-shotting them. Generally this works fine, but whenever it takes ~3 or more shots my aim gets hijacked and starts going crazy. I end up staring at the sky or the floor spinning circles and there's almost nothing I can do. If I switch weapons it goes back to normal instantly, and then returns when I bring the pistol back out. It's happened on at least two different suits, one was tac sniper/breach scrambler pistol, the other was toxin smg/breach (both with cloaks), the third I don't remember for sure what suit I was wearing. If there are any other details that you need, just let me know and I'll try to remember. Deactivate auto-aim. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Funkmaster Whale Ancient Exiles. 1907	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:30:00 - [24] - Quote This happens to me semi-often with all sorts of weapons. It's not just the scrambler pistol. I've tested it and gotten it to happen with aim assist off and on. I use M/KB as well. Let me play you the song of my people!
Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 44	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:38:00 - [25] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: This happens to me semi-often with all sorts of weapons. It's not just the scrambler pistol. I've tested it and gotten it to happen with aim assist off and on. I use M/KB as well. Yeah, as posted in the followups to the OP it's not just the scrambler pistol, but it was only the scrambler pistol at the time of me posting. Since then it's been every light and sidearm weapon that I've used, with the exception of swarms because as other people have pointed out, I think it might be related to aiming down the sights.
Niccolo deLuce Savage Bullet 44	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:39:00 - [26] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Niccolo deLuce wrote: Disclaimer: It's a crappy video, sorry. I had to try to dig out my camera while it was still going on. At the end of the video the problem resolved itself, but lasted for ~3 minutes while it was happening. Luckily the guy was in a logi suit and only had a Thale's so I was able to still kill him eventually. Breach Scrambler Pistol bug This has happened to me three times so far in the last 1.5 weeks, and I've been playing a lot, so it's really hard to replicate. Almost all of my suits have a breach scrambler pistol, and I use it a lot so this is pretty uncommon. What happens is I run up on somebody who is camping, de-cloak, switch to my breach scrambler pistol and start head-shotting them. Generally this works fine, but whenever it takes ~3 or more shots my aim gets hijacked and starts going crazy. I end up staring at the sky or the floor spinning circles and there's almost nothing I can do. If I switch weapons it goes back to normal instantly, and then returns when I bring the pistol back out. It's happened on at least two different suits, one was tac sniper/breach scrambler pistol, the other was toxin smg/breach (both with cloaks), the third I don't remember for sure what suit I was wearing. If there are any other details that you need, just let me know and I'll try to remember. Deactivate auto-aim. Post is 2 weeks old man, I've mentioned that auto aim wasn't on since the OP.
Youmadbroyolo Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.04.21 22:53:00 - [27] - Quote Niccolo deLuce wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Niccolo deLuce wrote: Disclaimer: It's a crappy video, sorry. I had to try to dig out my camera while it was still going on. At the end of the video the problem resolved itself, but lasted for ~3 minutes while it was happening. Luckily the guy was in a logi suit and only had a Thale's so I was able to still kill him eventually. Breach Scrambler Pistol bug This has happened to me three times so far in the last 1.5 weeks, and I've been playing a lot, so it's really hard to replicate. Almost all of my suits have a breach scrambler pistol, and I use it a lot so this is pretty uncommon. What happens is I run up on somebody who is camping, de-cloak, switch to my breach scrambler pistol and start head-shotting them. Generally this works fine, but whenever it takes ~3 or more shots my aim gets hijacked and starts going crazy. I end up staring at the sky or the floor spinning circles and there's almost nothing I can do. If I switch weapons it goes back to normal instantly, and then returns when I bring the pistol back out. It's happened on at least two different suits, one was tac sniper/breach scrambler pistol, the other was toxin smg/breach (both with cloaks), the third I don't remember for sure what suit I was wearing. If there are any other details that you need, just let me know and I'll try to remember. Deactivate auto-aim. Post is 2 weeks old man, I've mentioned that auto aim wasn't on since the OP. dust forum scrubs are dumb, expect the lowest levels of literacy.
Stile451 Red Star. EoN. 329	Posted - 2014.04.22 03:21:00 - [28] - Quote I thought this was an issue with my controller. I use a hybrid setup with the controller in my left hand and mouse in my right(keyboard too but only used for typing). On occasion my aiming will do what is happening in the video - using the right stick for a few seconds fixes the issue(which seems to be setting aim controls to controller, then back to mouse). It seems to only happen when in combat(it could very well be linked to aim assist - I'm not sure if it's on or not and will check tomorrow). When I use the controller alone(mainly dropships) this never happens.
Davy Headhunter Pradox One Proficiency V. 33	Posted - 2014.04.22 16:45:00 - [29] - Quote I will just steal the blue tag attention and ask about something related. When using laser on hipfire the sensivity is like "X" but when i switch to zoom mode the sensivity goes like "2X"... That is odd, coz all the other weapons works on the oposite way (zoom mode gives u "0.5X" sensivity). Is this by design or just a bug? EDIT: This only happens to me when using M+KB


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