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        |  The Terminator T-1000
 Skynet Incorporated
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:21:00 -
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 Please pardon my lack of knowledge, but isn't the Gallante race the most technologically advance race? If so, why do they seem to have some of the worst weapons in the game? For example, the AR appears to me like an inferior weapon in comparison to the CR and the RR. The PLC is another example that I can think of right now. On the other hand, i think the suits are pretty good.
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        |  Michael-J-Fox Richards
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:22:00 -
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 i thought the amarr were supposed to be technologically advanced, all i know is that we're the good guys
 
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        |  The Terminator T-1000
 Skynet Incorporated
 
 332
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:27:00 -
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 Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:i thought the amarr were supposed to be technologically advanced, all i know is that we're the good guys 
 
 Good guys always win right?
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:28:00 -
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 Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1576
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:36:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.
 
 We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar.
 
 Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:37:00 -
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 Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.  We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.  
 I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more.......
 
 You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1576
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:38:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.  We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.  I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr. 
 
  BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALDARI? 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9230
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:45:00 -
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 Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.  We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.  I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.   BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALDARI? 
 They don't want to unify. Just be left alone.
 
 It's also not propaganda look deep into the lore and you will find so very interesting things that would put most people off of the Gallente.
 
 State and Police Censorship.
 Drug Culture and abuse in younger members of society.
 Widespread religious natures inclusive of Gallentean's practising the Amarr Faith
 
 I mean come of I actively accept the Amarr do some crazy **** and roll with it.....still better than living in your fantasy world where you knowledge of your own faction equations to "Freeeeeedom" or "Democracy, Democracy......"
 
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:48:00 -
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 They are all advanced in in specific areas. Amarr and Gallente are tied in their technological capabilities and Caldari are closely behind the two. Minmitar, obviously would be in last place but they have the most ingenuity out of the four Empires.
 
 
 Coincidentally if you look at the Medium Suits Eyes it goes in order from who *I think* is the most advanced race:
 
 Gallente: Four Eyes
 Amarr: "Three Eyes" not really eyes and then they have a "third eye"
 Caldari: Two eyes although you can't really tell because from face value it looks like there's none.
 Minmitar: One Eye.
 
 
 ALSO, coincidentally the eyes kinda represent each race.
 Gallente's 4 eyes: Egg heads (who said smart people had to be ugly)
 Amarr's "Third Eye": "Spiritual awareness"
 Caldari's seemingly eyeless face: Caldari put their society above the individual
 Minmitar's one eye: Pirates or they are probably so stupid they shot their eye out after playing with a bb gun they got for Christmas.
 
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        |  The Terminator T-1000
 Skynet Incorporated
 
 332
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:53:00 -
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 Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators?
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 5464
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:55:00 -
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 The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Please pardon my lack of knowledge, but isn't the Gallante race the most technologically advanced race? If so, why do they seem to have some of the worst weapons in the game? For example, the AR appears to me like an inferior weapon in comparison to the CR and the RR. The PLC is another example that I can think of right now. On the other hand, i think the suits are pretty good. To answer our question though Gallente Suits are some of the best suits in the game (not counting the Assaults because most assaults are sub-par right now) it's just that our weapons are completely terrible. The only thing I'd trust that's Gallente is a Flux Grenade and that's pretty sad.
 
 Also I think Light Frames and Medium frame Gallente Suits should get their armor repair rates switched.
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1577
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:56:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.  We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.  I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.   BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALDARI? They don't want to unify. Just be left alone. It's also not propaganda look deep into the lore and you will find so very interesting things that would put most people off of the Gallente. State and Police Censorship. Drug Culture and abuse in younger members of society. Widespread religious natures inclusive of Gallentean's practising the Amarr Faith I mean come of I actively accept the Amarr do some crazy **** and roll with it.....still better than living in your fantasy world where you knowledge of your own faction equations to "Freeeeeedom" or "Democracy, Democracy......" 
 >.> You know I don't think we're perfect. Do love some freedom pie though. I mean. The Black Eagle for one. Then there's the actual culture and the extremes of it, although I wholly accept the extremes as long as it doesn't lead to the actual suffering of others. And while we're all about "liberty" and liberal ideas, we're pretty traditional when you think about it but that's not really a problem I guess. There's also arrogance and the encouragement of laziness(remember about the drones?). A lot of the Gallente people are also "social justice" whores to the point where they'll twist words and fake injustices to make themselves look better.
 
 It's pretty on the outside but a lot of ugly on the inside. But tolerable and even loveable if you look past the ugliness.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9230
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:58:00 -
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 The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? 
 Yes we did enslave the Minmatar but not for the reasons I am sure you are thinking of....Amarrian slavery has no real world parallels.
 
 As for the Caldari.....no...not really. Tibus Heth would have been a "dictator"....but for the most part the Megacorporations run the State.... and all people are looked after and provided for by the Megacorps....to varying degrees.
 
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 5467
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 20:59:00 -
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 The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? Minmitar were enslaved by the Amarr. Recently however, some Minmitar slaves were emancipated.
 
 The Caldari have a unique system of Government that I can't really explain in laymans terms.
 
 True A. could probably do a better job at explaining the Caldari's Government in a more understandable way.
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1577
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:00:00 -
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 The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? 
 There's still Minmatar slaves in the empire. And I guess you could consider the Caldari a dictatorship. It's not a negative though, as the people truly believe in it. Essentially they're ruled over by 8 megacorporations with thousands of sub-corporations under their blue umbrella.
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 12018
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:03:00 -
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 There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
 
 Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
 
 Secondly, in terms of technological advances - This is not something that is easily comparable. How do you define 'technologically advanced'? The Minmatar are obviously behind in terms of this, but the Amarr, Gallente, and Caldari all have their own technologies that differ widely in style and function. How would you compare a drone and a laser in terms of 'technology'?
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9230
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:16:00 -
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 Roy Ventus wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? There's still Minmatar slaves in the empire. And I guess you could consider the Caldari a dictatorship. It's not a negative though, as the people truly believe in it. Essentially they're ruled over by 8 megacorporations with thousands of sub-corporations under their blue umbrella. 
 314 Billion of them actually accprding to EVE Source.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9230
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:18:00 -
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? Minmitar were enslaved by the Amarr. Recently however, some Minmitar slaves were emancipated.  The Caldari have a unique system of Government that I can't really explain in laymans terms.  True A. could probably do a better job at explaining the Caldari's Government in a more understandable way.  
 I could....these are very basic descriptions and explanations because I know not everyone wants me to recount the founding a social structure of the empires.
 
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        |  Michael-J-Fox Richards
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 165
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:20:00 -
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 we're the good guys
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9230
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:21:00 -
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
 Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
 
 Secondly, in terms of technological advances - This is not something that is easily comparable. How do you define 'technologically advanced'? The Minmatar are obviously behind in terms of this, but the Amarr, Gallente, and Caldari all have their own technologies that differ widely in style and function. How would you compare a drone and a laser in terms of 'technology'?
 
 Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar.
 
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        |  Akdhar Saif
 Intaki Liberation Front
 Intaki Prosperity Initiative
 
 403
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:25:00 -
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 None of the factions in EVE are good/evil. Generally speaking they all fit in a grey neutral area between good and evil.
 
 The Caldari are supposed to the most technologically advanced, followed by the Amarr, Gallente and then the Minmatar. The raking doesn't include magnitude so Minmatar are way at the bottom whilst Amarr and Gallente are closer in level.
 
 This is based off of EVE chronicles.
 
 Also the AR is decent within its effective range. Its meant to be a shorter range weapon so it being called a rifle is probably incorrect. Its more like a carbine.
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        |  Soldier Sorajord
 Subsonic Synthesis
 RISE of LEGION
 
 170
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:35:00 -
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 Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
 
 PS The gallente are the reason for drones
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:38:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
 Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
 
 Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar. 
 Are you suggesting that black people are by default bad
  
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9230
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:39:00 -
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 Soldier Sorajord wrote:Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
 PS The gallente are the reason for drones
 
 Yes they are the reasons thousands of people die every year to rogue drone attacks....
 
 
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1577
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:47:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
 Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
 
 Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar. Are you suggesting that black people are by default bad  No, just pointing out and interesting tidbit that someone pointed out to me the other day. I found it interesting. 
 I believe there was no such thing as a Black Gallente too o.O. So weird considering they're a melting pot.
 
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        |  Bethhy
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 1664
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:47:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.  We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.  I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr. 
 The Amarr are a bunch of salvers who built their Nation of the backs of the Minmatar.
 
 The Amarr's main fleets got squashed in the last 2 years of them having a big head. So are weak.
 
 Amarr's main power these days are with the Ammatar... And they are minmatar by nature.
 
 The Caldari built secret armies and when the Federation found out they where supposed to be assimilated into the federation...
 
 Caldari Corporations who built the hidden massive war fleets didn't like that so they Flooded an entire underwater Gallente Main city in protest killing millions...
 
 Caldari are the scum of the universe completely out for profit and screwing over the populous to get it.
 
 
 The Gallante supported the Minmatar rebellion for freedom, Otherwise the Amarr would of killed everyone of them.
 
 
 Amarr and Caldari are the ass hat's of the universe... At least wear that hat with pride if you are going to done the pride of an Amarrian.
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 5468
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:47:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
 PS The gallente are the reason for drones
 Yes they are the reasons thousands of people die every year to rogue drone attacks.... oopsie
  
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 5468
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 21:48:00 -
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 Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
 Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
 
 Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar. Are you suggesting that black people are by default bad  No, just pointing out and interesting tidbit that someone pointed out to me the other day. I found it interesting. I believe there was no such thing as a Black Gallente too o.O. So weird considering they're a melting pot. My Character in EVE is a black Gallente.
 
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        |  Nocturnal Soul
 Immortal Retribution
 
 2659
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:00:00 -
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:My CharacterI believe there was no such thing as a Black Gallente too o.O. So weird considering they're a melting pot.  in EVE is a black Gallente. Hey I remember you just, never put it together.
 
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        |  Spademan
 the unholy legion of darkstar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 1112
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:06:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 
 I'll have you know that the Gallente Federation is a shining example of democracy.
 If you hate the Gallente then you hate freedom itself.
 For is that not what all strive for? The freedom to be a Gallente citizen?
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:07:00 -
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 Bethhy wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.  We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.  I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr. The Amarr are a bunch of salvers who built their Nation of the backs of the Minmatar. The Amarr's main fleets got squashed in the last 2 years of them having a big head. So are weak. Amarr's main power these days are with the Ammatar... And they are minmatar by nature. The Caldari built secret armies and when the Federation found out they where supposed to be assimilated into the federation...  Caldari Corporations who built the hidden massive war fleets didn't like that so they Flooded an entire underwater Gallente Main city in protest killing millions...  Caldari are the scum of the universe completely out for profit and screwing over the populous to get it. The Gallante supported the Minmatar rebellion for freedom, Otherwise the Amarr would of killed everyone of them. Amarr and Caldari are the ass hat's of the universe... At least wear that hat with pride if you are going to done the pride of an Amarrian. 
 Our Nation was a starfarring insterstellar Empire before we even met you.... the Minmatar provided relatively little development during their 300 years of enslavement.
 
 The Jove destroyed but a fraction of the fleet, a mere 200 ships below Capital class, barely a squadron of our Navy, with us inflicting 1/3 casualties on their ships. Comparatively a narrow loss for a race supposedly 10000 years inferior to the Jove....
 
 Empress Jamyl squashed the Elder fleet with 1 ship and a smaller personal fleet.
 
 The Anmatar are the Nefantar who chose willingly to join the Empire of their own volition and for the most part a content with their Mandate under the leadership of Yonis Ardishapur.
 
 The Caldari reserved their right to produce and maintain colonies, and it was a Patriots terrorist group who destroyed Nouvelle Rouvenor, not the Big 8.
 
 Please keep your poor generalisation and or ignorance off of the forums. ( openly waiting if case Kirk or Arkena need to correct me on this.... unsure wholly of Cal/Gal politics)
 
 
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        |  Soldier Sorajord
 Subsonic Synthesis
 RISE of LEGION
 
 170
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:07:00 -
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 Lol @ How this has become a racial hate thread xD
 
 Let's bring the Caldari Into this if we're doing that xP
 
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        |  KING CHECKMATE
 Tal-Romon Legion
 Amarr Empire
 
 4776
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:09:00 -
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 The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Please pardon my lack of knowledge, but isn't the Gallante race the most technologically advanced race? If so, why do they seem to have some of the worst weapons in the game? For example, the AR appears to me like an inferior weapon in comparison to the CR and the RR. The PLC is another example that I can think of right now. On the other hand, i think the suits are pretty good. 
 In terms of technology :
 
 1-Jove (non-existent in DUST514)
 2-Caldari (due to contact with the Jove)
 3-Amarr
 4- Gallente
 5-Human race in year 2014
 6-Minmatar
 
 If im not mistaken.
 
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        |  Soldier Sorajord
 Subsonic Synthesis
 RISE of LEGION
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:11:00 -
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 Jove mixed with the gallente though, If I'm not mistaken.
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:12:00 -
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 Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:My CharacterI believe there was no such thing as a Black Gallente too o.O. So weird considering they're a melting pot.  in EVE is a black Gallente. Hey I remember you just, never put it together.  Speaking of EVE, I need your new character name.
 Unless you'd like me to keep that 400 mil, of course.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:13:00 -
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 Soldier Sorajord wrote:Lol @ How this has become a racial hate thread xD 
 Let's bring the Caldari Into this if we're doing that xP
 
 OOC I goddamn hate the Gallente because of their aesthetic design...its awful.
 
 Lore wise I am indifferent...but they are insanely boring and unimaginative.
 
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        |  Jacques Cayton II
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:15:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 So very true. Caldari and Amarr are by far more tech savy.
 
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        |  Asha Starwind
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 716
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:19:00 -
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 Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.
 
 We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar.
 
 Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.
 I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.   BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALDARI? They don't want to unify. Just be left alone. It's also not propaganda look deep into the lore and you will find so very interesting things that would put most people off of the Gallente. State and Police Censorship. Drug Culture and abuse in younger members of society. Widespread religious natures inclusive of Gallentean's practising the Amarr Faith I mean come of I actively accept the Amarr do some crazy **** and roll with it.....still better than living in your fantasy world where you knowledge of your own faction equations to "Freeeeeedom" or "Democracy, Democracy......" >.> You know I don't think we're perfect. Do love some freedom pie though. I mean. The Black Eagle for one. Then there's the actual culture and the extremes of it, although I wholly accept the extremes as long as it doesn't lead to the actual suffering of others. And while we're all about "liberty" and liberal ideas, we're pretty traditional when you think about it but that's not really a problem I guess. There's also arrogance and the encouragement of laziness(remember about the drones?). A lot of the Gallente people are also "social justice" whores to the point where they'll twist words and fake injustices to make themselves look better.  It's pretty on the outside but a lot of ugly on the inside. But tolerable and even loveable if you look past the ugliness.  
 As long as that Freedom pie is Gallente brand freedom. Everyone else's freedom from a Gallentean's perspective isn't really freedom if it isn't under Gallentean rule. That's hypocritical if you ask me.
 
 
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        |  Jacques Cayton II
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 738
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:25:00 -
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 Bethhy wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.  We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.  I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr. The Amarr are a bunch of salvers who built their Nation of the backs of the Minmatar. The Amarr's main fleets got squashed in the last 2 years of them having a big head. So are weak. Amarr's main power these days are with the Ammatar... And they are minmatar by nature. The Caldari built secret armies and when the Federation found out they where supposed to be assimilated into the federation...  Caldari Corporations who built the hidden massive war fleets didn't like that so they Flooded an entire underwater Gallente Main city in protest killing millions...  Caldari are the scum of the universe completely out for profit and screwing over the populous to get it. The Gallante supported the Minmatar rebellion for freedom, Otherwise the Amarr would of killed everyone of them. Amarr and Caldari are the ass hat's of the universe... At least wear that hat with pride if you are going to done the pride of an Amarrian. Wow someone is really believing that federation propaganda. If you believe this you won't last long in any intelligent discussion on the empires. As a Statesmen I hate the Gallente, but if you look beyond that and read you'll find their way of life is admirable. Just the government is fudged up and corrupt. Also Kador is correct we Caldari only wish to be left alone now that we have reached a middle ground with Caldari Prime.
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 22:51:00 -
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 Jacques Cayton II wrote:Bethhy wrote:-snip hyper nationalistic blather-
 
 Wow someone is really believing that federation propaganda. If you believe this you won't last long in any intelligent discussion on the empires. As a Statesmen I hate the Gallente, but if you look beyond that and read you'll find their way of life is admirable. Just the government is fudged up and corrupt. Also Kador is correct we Caldari only wish to be left alone now that we have reached a middle ground with Caldari Prime.  
 Sad, isn't it?
 Every discussion about this turns into complaining about events 200 years ago in which both sides did bad things.
 
 I'm all for a peaceful resolution on Caldari Prime now that titan is gone.
 
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        |  Michael-J-Fox Richards
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 166
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 23:07:00 -
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 ya'll need to join up with the good guys, join up for the big win, i do not discriminate against caldari, amarr or minmatar because i believe that deep down inside each one of these peoples is a freedom loving gallente just trying to get out
 
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        |  sabre prime
 the unholy legion of darkstar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 23:18:00 -
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 Soldier Sorajord wrote:Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
 PS The gallente are the reason for drones
 
 Gallente are dampening experts for Ewar, but the cloak is Caldari isn't it? Dampening and cloaking are both about hiding, so how does that work with the lore?
 
 Edit: the reason I quoted you soldier was to ask, who has drones? All four races have their own drone tech, or just gallente?
 
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        |  Michael Arck
 Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
 Lokun Listamenn
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.03 23:20:00 -
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 Poop Mouth!
 
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        |  Magnus Amadeuss
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 668
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.03 23:24:00 -
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 Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:i thought the amarr were supposed to be technologically advanced, all i know is that we're the good guys 
 If by good guys you mean the personification of everything that is wrong with the united states and capitalism, yes.
 
 
 The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Please pardon my lack of knowledge, but isn't the Gallante race the most technologically advanced race? If so, why do they seem to have some of the worst weapons in the game? For example, the AR appears to me like an inferior weapon in comparison to the CR and the RR. The PLC is another example that I can think of right now. On the other hand, i think the suits are pretty good. 
 Nope.
 Jove > Amarr > Gallente = Caldari > minmatar
 
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.04 01:50:00 -
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 sabre prime wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
 PS The gallente are the reason for drones
 Gallente are dampening experts for Ewar, but the cloak is Caldari isn't it? Dampening and cloaking are both about hiding, so how does that work with the lore? Edit: the reason I quoted you soldier was to ask, who has drones? All four races have their own drone tech, or just gallente? Every race has Drones but Gallente specialize and have better general drone stats.
 
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        |  ishtellian
 SAM-MIK
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 17
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 02:29:00 -
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 Basically Gallente fight for freedom for evryone, Caldari fight for money, Minmatar fight for freedom of their people, Amarr fight for enlightenment ( I think ) Whether you classify them as good or bad depends on your perspective, Gallente usually appear as the good guys because you know freedom is what they fight for, amarr seem like bad guys because they enslave the minmatar caldari seem kinda bad because they appear to just want money and their allies witht with the Amarr who have slaves people like to side with minmatar and say their good because their the underdogs sort of, in the end its all based on how you perceive the situations and how you think of it.
 
 I wouldn't really say any of the races are largely behind any of the others in tech basing this off of EvE they all have their advantages and disadvantages.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9248
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 02:45:00 -
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 ishtellian wrote:Basically Gallente fight for freedom for evryone, Caldari fight for money, Minmatar fight for freedom of their people, Amarr fight for enlightenment ( I think ) Whether you classify them as good or bad depends on your perspective, Gallente usually appear as the good guys because you know freedom is what they fight for, amarr seem like bad guys because they enslave the minmatar caldari seem kinda bad because they appear to just want money and their allies witht with the Amarr who have slaves people like to side with minmatar and say their good because their the underdogs sort of, in the end its all based on how you perceive the situations and how you think of it.
 I wouldn't really say any of the races are largely behind any of the others in tech basing this off of EvE they all have their advantages and disadvantages.
 
 
 See its a lack of knowledge like that that leads to poor generalisations.
 
 Gallente are pro democracy yes, but suffer hugely from corruption and are imperialistic in their expansion.
 
 The Caldari cling to their old traditions and have a soried history with the Gallente. Caldari value honour and duty over all things, they have massive industrial capacity, but money to them is nothing besides the aforementioned concepts.
 
 The Minmatar are a young race used by the greater empires, they are quick to anger and slow to forgive, and act with a rashness of a people with something to prove. However they are ingenious, adaptable, and above all tenacious.
 
 The Amarr seek the unity of Mankind under a single empire, god, and emperor and are willing to do what has to be done to ensure this comes to pass. Historically they have enslaved the conquered to educate and eventually emancipate.
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1577
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 03:06:00 -
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:My CharacterI believe there was no such thing as a Black Gallente too o.O. So weird considering they're a melting pot.  in EVE is a black Gallente. 
 
  Gatdamn beautiful. 
 Now I just need to make my EVE toon.
 
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        |  Kaldar blaze
 THE SUPERHEROS
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.04 03:17:00 -
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 Caldari are followers of belief, honor and dignity. Who also have a patriotic government meaning that everyone in the race beliefs in one another.
 
 Amarr are firm religious beings it just so happens slavery was involved in the religion. So they do what they believe is right
 
 Gallenta are democratic and believe in freedom
 
 Minmatare are all trying to save their brethern
 
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        |  Callidus Vanus
 Nova Corps Marines
 Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
 
 271
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 03:19:00 -
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 To get back on topic, the technological scale for the New Eden races is as follows:
 
 - Jove: The creators of the pod and cloning tech, they are considered to be the current most advanced race still in existence in New Eden though there is evidence that they have died out.
 
 - Caldari: Probably pissing of all the Gallente loyalists out there but its true. The Caldari are considered to be second only to the Jove in their technological advancement. They were actually considered to be the least advanced race for a long time due to the harsh home world they inhabited, it wasn't until they made contact with the Federation that major technological progression really kicked off.
 
 - Gallente: It was a toss up between the Amarr and the Gallente but ill cover that in a minute. They have the most advance drone base technology in the cluster among other things. Were as Caldari technology is usually driven by military R&D Gallente progression is usualy made in the private sector.
 
 - Amarr: though they were the first playable race to re-discover warp travel Amarr Technological progression has slowed due to the complicated way the Empire is run. While they have the largest navy in the known galaxy most of the Amarr fleet is very old with much of the fleet dating back to the Matari rebellion. The Amarr have never really felt that advancement was needed, their ships have always and continue to be tough and reliable and Laser technology is highly efficient with the use of crystals rather then solid ammunition or missiles. Though there are exceptions to the rule (Templar technology even though its was borrowed from the sleepers is still an advancement).
 
 - Matari: For obvious reasons the Minmatar hit the bottom of the list. war, slavery and political turmoil through out their history have hampered Matari technological innovation leading to the half hazard look of most Minmatar ships, and gear. Though they are defiantly starting to recover with companies like Boundless Creation and Core Complexions developing tech that would make a Caldari jealous.
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1578
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 03:20:00 -
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 sabre prime wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
 PS The gallente are the reason for drones
 Gallente are dampening experts for Ewar, but the cloak is Caldari isn't it? Dampening and cloaking are both about hiding, so how does that work with the lore? Edit: the reason I quoted you soldier was to ask, who has drones? All four races have their own drone tech, or just gallente? 
 
 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140072&find=unread
 
 The Caldari and Gallente are both focused on intelligence and counter intelligence.
 
 I believe IWS, Iron Wolf Saber, said before how the Gallente do things a certain way while the Caldari do it the other way. Like. Notice how the Caldari scout have the best passive scans but the Gallente logistics have the best active scans. The Gallente are the best at passive dampening while the Caldari are great at cloaks. More than likely we'll get fleshed out more when it comes to stealth and intelligence-counter intelligence.
 
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.04 03:50:00 -
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 Roy Ventus wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140072&find=unreadThe Caldari and Gallente are both focused on intelligence and counter intelligence.  I believe IWS, Iron Wolf Saber, said before how the Gallente do things a certain way while the Caldari do it the other way. Like. Notice how the Caldari scout have the best passive scans but the Gallente logistics have the best active scans. The Gallente are the best at passive dampening while the Caldari are great at cloaks. More than likely we'll get fleshed out more when it comes to stealth and intelligence-counter intelligence.  Yes.
 
 Both Races are extremely specialised into information warfare.
 
 It's hard to be put in words but showing you, like said in the above statement gives you a good idea about how each race does things.
 
 Gallente Scouts: have better stealth Ability
 Gallente "information" Equipment: Active Scanners
 
 Caldari Scouts: have better scanning ability
 Caldari Equipment: Cloak/ stealth
 
 
 The Gallente use their information more for Offensive/aggressive tactics while Caldari use their information for more Defensive tactics.
 
 
 To put it like this.
 
 The Gallente, lets call them "Billy", are like the School Bully/prankster, He'll stalk Timmy down and when he doesn't know when he is he'll beat Timmy's ass into the ground.
 
 The Caldari, "Timmy", are more like the Nerd on the campus, He'll do whatever he can to avoid direct conflict with Billy. However, Timmy has got a good arm and can throw rocks at Timmy but it's all over for Timmy if Billy gets anywhere close to him. This is why Billy has a heightened perception and knows how to hide from Billy so well. Years of being paranoid have taught him how to counter Billys attacks.
 
 
 But in the end, Little Timmy is still a little *****.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9251
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 03:54:00 -
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140072&find=unreadThe Caldari and Gallente are both focused on intelligence and counter intelligence.  I believe IWS, Iron Wolf Saber, said before how the Gallente do things a certain way while the Caldari do it the other way. Like. Notice how the Caldari scout have the best passive scans but the Gallente logistics have the best active scans. The Gallente are the best at passive dampening while the Caldari are great at cloaks. More than likely we'll get fleshed out more when it comes to stealth and intelligence-counter intelligence.  Yes.  Both Races are extremely specialised into information warfare.  It's hard to be put in words but showing you, like said in the above statement gives you a good idea about how each race does things.  Gallente Scouts: have better stealth Ability Gallente "information" Equipment: Active Scanners Caldari Scouts: have better scanning ability  Caldari Equipment: Cloak/ stealth  The Gallente use their information more for Offensive/aggressive tactics while Caldari use their information for more Defensive tactics.  To put it like this.  The Gallente, lets call them "Billy", are like the School Bully/prankster, He'll stalk Timmy down and when he doesn't know when he is he'll beat Timmy's ass into the ground. The Caldari, "Timmy", are more like the Nerd on the campus, He'll do whatever he can to avoid direct conflict with Billy. However, Timmy has got a good arm and can throw rocks at Timmy but it's all over for Timmy if Billy gets anywhere close to him. This is why Billy has a heightened perception and knows how to hide from Billy so well. Years of being paranoid have taught him how to counter Billys attacks. But in the end, Little Timmy is still a little *****. 
 Then Andy the Amarr comes around and informs the authorities of Billy and Timmy's fighting after they break a window. Billy and Timmy' are sentenced to 30 hours community service so they can better reflect on their actions.
 
 (Amarr in a nutshell folks).
 
 
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.04 04:05:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Then Andy the Amarr comes around and informs the authorities of Billy and Timmy's fighting after they break a window. Billy and Timmy' are sentenced to 30 hours community service so they can better reflect on their actions.Roy Ventus wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140072&find=unreadThe Caldari and Gallente are both focused on intelligence and counter intelligence.  I believe IWS, Iron Wolf Saber, said before how the Gallente do things a certain way while the Caldari do it the other way. Like. Notice how the Caldari scout have the best passive scans but the Gallente logistics have the best active scans. The Gallente are the best at passive dampening while the Caldari are great at cloaks. More than likely we'll get fleshed out more when it comes to stealth and intelligence-counter intelligence.  Yes.  Both Races are extremely specialised into information warfare.  It's hard to be put in words but showing you, like said in the above statement gives you a good idea about how each race does things.  Gallente Scouts: have better stealth Ability Gallente "information" Equipment: Active Scanners Caldari Scouts: have better scanning ability  Caldari Equipment: Cloak/ stealth  The Gallente use their information more for Offensive/aggressive tactics while Caldari use their information for more Defensive tactics.  To put it like this.  The Gallente, lets call them "Billy", are like the School Bully/prankster, He'll stalk Timmy down and when he doesn't know when he is he'll beat Timmy's ass into the ground. The Caldari, "Timmy", are more like the Nerd on the campus, He'll do whatever he can to avoid direct conflict with Billy. However, Timmy has got a good arm and can throw rocks at Timmy but it's all over for Timmy if Billy gets anywhere close to him. This is why Billy has a heightened perception and knows how to hide from Billy so well. Years of being paranoid have taught him how to counter Billys attacks. But in the end, Little Timmy is still a little *****. (Amarr in a nutshell folks). 
 Meanwhile Manny the Minmitar is eating glue in the sandbox.
 
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        |  1pawn dust
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.04 04:07:00 -
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 technology wise its jove > caldari > amarr > gallente > minmatar
 
 however in Dust its Gallente > everything
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1579
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 04:31:00 -
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 1pawn dust wrote:technology wise its jove > caldari > amarr > gallente > minmatar
 however in Dust its Gallente > everything
 
 As a Gallente-lovin' merc. lolno
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9256
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 04:50:00 -
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Then Andy the Amarr comes around and informs the authorities of Billy and Timmy's fighting after they break a window. Billy and Timmy' are sentenced to 30 hours community service so they can better reflect on their actions.Roy Ventus wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140072&find=unreadThe Caldari and Gallente are both focused on intelligence and counter intelligence.  I believe IWS, Iron Wolf Saber, said before how the Gallente do things a certain way while the Caldari do it the other way. Like. Notice how the Caldari scout have the best passive scans but the Gallente logistics have the best active scans. The Gallente are the best at passive dampening while the Caldari are great at cloaks. More than likely we'll get fleshed out more when it comes to stealth and intelligence-counter intelligence.  Yes.  Both Races are extremely specialised into information warfare.  It's hard to be put in words but showing you, like said in the above statement gives you a good idea about how each race does things.  Gallente Scouts: have better stealth Ability Gallente "information" Equipment: Active Scanners Caldari Scouts: have better scanning ability  Caldari Equipment: Cloak/ stealth  The Gallente use their information more for Offensive/aggressive tactics while Caldari use their information for more Defensive tactics.  To put it like this.  The Gallente, lets call them "Billy", are like the School Bully/prankster, He'll stalk Timmy down and when he doesn't know when he is he'll beat Timmy's ass into the ground. The Caldari, "Timmy", are more like the Nerd on the campus, He'll do whatever he can to avoid direct conflict with Billy. However, Timmy has got a good arm and can throw rocks at Timmy but it's all over for Timmy if Billy gets anywhere close to him. This is why Billy has a heightened perception and knows how to hide from Billy so well. Years of being paranoid have taught him how to counter Billys attacks. But in the end, Little Timmy is still a little *****. (Amarr in a nutshell folks). Meanwhile Manny the Minmitar is eating glue in the sandbox.  
 And Andy kept telling him not to, it was for his own good, even got him a 30 minute detention.....but he still wouldn't stop eating the glue.
 
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        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Lokapalas.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.04 04:56:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:
 They don't want to unify. Just be left alone.
 
 It's also not propaganda look deep into the lore and you will find so very interesting things that would put most people off of the Gallente.
 
 State and Police Censorship.
 Drug Culture and abuse in younger members of society.
 Widespread religious natures inclusive of Gallentean's practising the Amarr Faith
 
 I mean come of I actively accept the Amarr do some crazy **** and roll with it.....still better than living in your fantasy world where you knowledge of your own faction equations to "Freeeeeedom" or "Democracy, Democracy......"
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298Cw3_qGwE
 
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        |  Bizar Wolf
 Carbon 7
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.04 05:47:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Gallente are pro democracy yes, but suffer hugely from corruption and are imperialistic in their expansion.
 The Caldari cling to their old traditions and have a soried history with the Gallente. Caldari value honour and duty over all things, they have massive industrial capacity, but money to them is nothing besides the aforementioned concepts.
 
 The Minmatar are a young race used by the greater empires, they are quick to anger and slow to forgive, and act with a rashness of a people with something to prove. However they are ingenious, adaptable, and above all tenacious.
 
 The Amarr seek the unity of Mankind under a single empire, god, and emperor and are willing to do what has to be done to ensure this comes to pass. Historically they have enslaved the conquered to educate and eventually emancipate.
 
 If by emancipate and educate, you mean to enslave and brainwash, then you are correct. Also, the Caldari value money over honor any day. That's why they are run by corporations and conglomerates that control every aspect of their society.
 
 We Minmatar are not a young race either. We were once a glorious empire until the Amarr enslaved us. The Republic is a young empire because of our recently earned freedom. What we are trying to "prove" is that we are not a nation to be trifled with or stepped upon.
 
 As for the original post: The Gallente are the most proficient at making drones and basic AI systems. But the Amarr are the most advanced in regards to energy weapons and equipment. The Gallente and Caldari are both Hybrid systems experts, with each focusing more on one aspect than the other. The Minmatar are seen as more "primitive" because we had to start all over again after our enslavement and have to work with things like projectile weaponry. Most Minmatar equipment is re purposed from things like mining equipment.
 
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        |  Arx Ardashir
 Imperium Aeternum
 
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 Bizar Wolf wrote:We Minmatar are not a young race either. We were once a glorious empire until the Amarr enslaved us.
 As a 5-year EVE player and RPer, I'm going to have to ask for a source on this, as I have never heard it before. The Matari had only a handful of systems under their control when the thousand-year-old interstellar Empire came.
 
 
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        |  Operative 1171 Aajli
 Bragian Order
 Amarr Empire
 
 1750
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 08:28:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 
 
 Right wing? Facist? UmGǪ
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9261
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 11:19:00 -
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 Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
 No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
 
 And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
 Right wing? Facist? UmGǪ 
 Look up the Hawks voting block and the Black Eagles. The Gallentean authorities can hide behind the word demorcracy all they want..... it doesn't change that they are subduing those who would speak freely and of course preventing the independence of states who wish to leave the Federation.
 
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        |  Sergamon Draco
 Rautaleijona
 
 434
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 11:29:00 -
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 But we have drones
 
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        |  Fizzer94
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 2470
 
 
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 Can we just make a moment to look at how boring the Caldari and Gallente are in comparison to the Amarr and Minmatar?
 
 Caldari: Stereotypical 80s future concepts. Their one saving grace is their patriotism and honor. Literally this most uninspired gear ever...
 ...Never has angular and gunmetal gray looked good.
 
 Gallente: Stereotypical modern future concepts. A very boring culture and govorment system. Their saving grace is their decent designs, the organic but yet high tech thing is nice.
 
 Minmatar: They have the badass space junker/freedom fighter thing going on. Their ships and infantry gear have a "used future" look to them. Their govorment is simple, but yet interesting due to the use of tribal culture. Their culture itself is pretty cool too, they idolize strength and individuality, but yet place great importance on community and familial connections.
 
 Amarr: Golden Heretic burners with an extreme religion, but yet a beautiful vision of a united mankind. Their goals and intentions are noble, but they often go to extreme lengths to reach them. They have a very interesting fuedal government system that merges the laws of man with the laws of god. Their culture itself is quiet and reserved, but the religion is loud and outspoken.
 
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        |  Smooth Assassin
 Stardust Incorporation
 IMMORTAL REGIME
 
 1169
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 12:12:00 -
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 The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:i thought the amarr were supposed to be technologically advanced, all i know is that we're the good guys Good guys always win right? Go to factional warfare and you'll see.
 
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        |  Hansei Kaizen
 The Jackson Five
 
 97
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 12:25:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Yes we did enslave the Minmatar but not for the reasons I am sure you are thinking of....Amarrian slavery has no real world parallels. 
 What about Hindu and their "untouchables" caste? Thats some kind of religious motivated slavery.
 
 And slavery can take many forms. Low wage workers are (not in definition but in effect) slaves, if they have family and housing they cant just leave behind to seek better jobs, or the job market is collapsed. Dont even talking about unpaid internships, lol
 
 I think New Eden is built so every empire has its monstrous flaws and exalted marvels. But in the end I think the Gallente and Minmatar will be victorious, if the Jove dont hand out more scientific wonders randomly. Because: Being an inclusive and collaborative society that is capable of alliances and compromises is essential in a plural environment. Being monolithic and oppressive / specialized makes less resilient in the long turn if drastical changes occur periodically.
 
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1583
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.04 16:39:00 -
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 Fizzer94 wrote:Can we just make a moment to look at how boring the Caldari and Gallente are in comparison to the Amarr and Minmatar?
 Caldari: Stereotypical 80s future concepts. Their one saving grace is their patriotism and honor. Literally this most uninspired gear ever...
 ...Never has angular and gunmetal gray looked good.
 
 Gallente: Stereotypical modern future concepts. A very boring culture and govorment system. Their saving grace is their decent designs, the organic but yet high tech thing is nice.
 
 Minmatar: They have the badass space junker/freedom fighter thing going on. Their ships and infantry gear have a "used future" look to them. Their govorment is simple, but yet interesting due to the use of tribal culture. Their culture itself is pretty cool too, they idolize strength and individuality, but yet place great importance on community and familial connections.
 
 Amarr: Golden Heretic burners with an extreme religion, but yet a beautiful vision of a united mankind. Their goals and intentions are noble, but they often go to extreme lengths to reach them. They have a very interesting fuedal government system that merges the laws of man with the laws of god. Their culture itself is quiet and reserved, but the religion is loud and outspoken.
 
 It's because the Gallente and Caldari aren't as fleshed out in the RP. Everyone picks up Amarr and Minmatar because their slaver-slave relationship, tribal system, and religious nature are sure bets for interesting topics. For the Gallete and Caldari you gotta dig deep. The good thing about them is that you can make up content with less worries of conflicts with popular lore.
 
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