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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:28:00 -
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Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:37:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda. We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.
I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more.......
You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:45:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda. We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government. I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.  BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALDARI?
They don't want to unify. Just be left alone.
It's also not propaganda look deep into the lore and you will find so very interesting things that would put most people off of the Gallente.
State and Police Censorship.
Drug Culture and abuse in younger members of society.
Widespread religious natures inclusive of Gallentean's practising the Amarr Faith
I mean come of I actively accept the Amarr do some crazy **** and roll with it.....still better than living in your fantasy world where you knowledge of your own faction equations to "Freeeeeedom" or "Democracy, Democracy......"
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:58:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators?
Yes we did enslave the Minmatar but not for the reasons I am sure you are thinking of....Amarrian slavery has no real world parallels.
As for the Caldari.....no...not really. Tibus Heth would have been a "dictator"....but for the most part the Megacorporations run the State.... and all people are looked after and provided for by the Megacorps....to varying degrees.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:16:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? There's still Minmatar slaves in the empire. And I guess you could consider the Caldari a dictatorship. It's not a negative though, as the people truly believe in it. Essentially they're ruled over by 8 megacorporations with thousands of sub-corporations under their blue umbrella.
314 Billion of them actually accprding to EVE Source.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:18:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? Minmitar were enslaved by the Amarr. Recently however, some Minmitar slaves were emancipated. The Caldari have a unique system of Government that I can't really explain in laymans terms. True A. could probably do a better job at explaining the Caldari's Government in a more understandable way.
I could....these are very basic descriptions and explanations because I know not everyone wants me to recount the founding a social structure of the empires.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:21:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
Secondly, in terms of technological advances - This is not something that is easily comparable. How do you define 'technologically advanced'? The Minmatar are obviously behind in terms of this, but the Amarr, Gallente, and Caldari all have their own technologies that differ widely in style and function. How would you compare a drone and a laser in terms of 'technology'?
Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:39:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
PS The gallente are the reason for drones
Yes they are the reasons thousands of people die every year to rogue drone attacks....
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:07:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda. We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government. I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr. The Amarr are a bunch of salvers who built their Nation of the backs of the Minmatar. The Amarr's main fleets got squashed in the last 2 years of them having a big head. So are weak. Amarr's main power these days are with the Ammatar... And they are minmatar by nature. The Caldari built secret armies and when the Federation found out they where supposed to be assimilated into the federation... Caldari Corporations who built the hidden massive war fleets didn't like that so they Flooded an entire underwater Gallente Main city in protest killing millions... Caldari are the scum of the universe completely out for profit and screwing over the populous to get it. The Gallante supported the Minmatar rebellion for freedom, Otherwise the Amarr would of killed everyone of them. Amarr and Caldari are the ass hat's of the universe... At least wear that hat with pride if you are going to done the pride of an Amarrian.
Our Nation was a starfarring insterstellar Empire before we even met you.... the Minmatar provided relatively little development during their 300 years of enslavement.
The Jove destroyed but a fraction of the fleet, a mere 200 ships below Capital class, barely a squadron of our Navy, with us inflicting 1/3 casualties on their ships. Comparatively a narrow loss for a race supposedly 10000 years inferior to the Jove....
Empress Jamyl squashed the Elder fleet with 1 ship and a smaller personal fleet.
The Anmatar are the Nefantar who chose willingly to join the Empire of their own volition and for the most part a content with their Mandate under the leadership of Yonis Ardishapur.
The Caldari reserved their right to produce and maintain colonies, and it was a Patriots terrorist group who destroyed Nouvelle Rouvenor, not the Big 8.
Please keep your poor generalisation and or ignorance off of the forums. ( openly waiting if case Kirk or Arkena need to correct me on this.... unsure wholly of Cal/Gal politics)
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:13:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:Lol @ How this has become a racial hate thread xD
Let's bring the Caldari Into this if we're doing that xP
OOC I goddamn hate the Gallente because of their aesthetic design...its awful.
Lore wise I am indifferent...but they are insanely boring and unimaginative.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 02:45:00 -
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ishtellian wrote:Basically Gallente fight for freedom for evryone, Caldari fight for money, Minmatar fight for freedom of their people, Amarr fight for enlightenment ( I think ) Whether you classify them as good or bad depends on your perspective, Gallente usually appear as the good guys because you know freedom is what they fight for, amarr seem like bad guys because they enslave the minmatar caldari seem kinda bad because they appear to just want money and their allies witht with the Amarr who have slaves people like to side with minmatar and say their good because their the underdogs sort of, in the end its all based on how you perceive the situations and how you think of it.
I wouldn't really say any of the races are largely behind any of the others in tech basing this off of EvE they all have their advantages and disadvantages.
See its a lack of knowledge like that that leads to poor generalisations.
Gallente are pro democracy yes, but suffer hugely from corruption and are imperialistic in their expansion.
The Caldari cling to their old traditions and have a soried history with the Gallente. Caldari value honour and duty over all things, they have massive industrial capacity, but money to them is nothing besides the aforementioned concepts.
The Minmatar are a young race used by the greater empires, they are quick to anger and slow to forgive, and act with a rashness of a people with something to prove. However they are ingenious, adaptable, and above all tenacious.
The Amarr seek the unity of Mankind under a single empire, god, and emperor and are willing to do what has to be done to ensure this comes to pass. Historically they have enslaved the conquered to educate and eventually emancipate.
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140072&find=unreadThe Caldari and Gallente are both focused on intelligence and counter intelligence. I believe IWS, Iron Wolf Saber, said before how the Gallente do things a certain way while the Caldari do it the other way. Like. Notice how the Caldari scout have the best passive scans but the Gallente logistics have the best active scans. The Gallente are the best at passive dampening while the Caldari are great at cloaks. More than likely we'll get fleshed out more when it comes to stealth and intelligence-counter intelligence. Yes. Both Races are extremely specialised into information warfare. It's hard to be put in words but showing you, like said in the above statement gives you a good idea about how each race does things. Gallente Scouts: have better stealth Ability Gallente "information" Equipment: Active Scanners Caldari Scouts: have better scanning ability Caldari Equipment: Cloak/ stealth The Gallente use their information more for Offensive/aggressive tactics while Caldari use their information for more Defensive tactics. To put it like this. The Gallente, lets call them "Billy", are like the School Bully/prankster, He'll stalk Timmy down and when he doesn't know when he is he'll beat Timmy's ass into the ground. The Caldari, "Timmy", are more like the Nerd on the campus, He'll do whatever he can to avoid direct conflict with Billy. However, Timmy has got a good arm and can throw rocks at Timmy but it's all over for Timmy if Billy gets anywhere close to him. This is why Billy has a heightened perception and knows how to hide from Billy so well. Years of being paranoid have taught him how to counter Billys attacks. But in the end, Little Timmy is still a little *****.
Then Andy the Amarr comes around and informs the authorities of Billy and Timmy's fighting after they break a window. Billy and Timmy' are sentenced to 30 hours community service so they can better reflect on their actions.
(Amarr in a nutshell folks).
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Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140072&find=unreadThe Caldari and Gallente are both focused on intelligence and counter intelligence. I believe IWS, Iron Wolf Saber, said before how the Gallente do things a certain way while the Caldari do it the other way. Like. Notice how the Caldari scout have the best passive scans but the Gallente logistics have the best active scans. The Gallente are the best at passive dampening while the Caldari are great at cloaks. More than likely we'll get fleshed out more when it comes to stealth and intelligence-counter intelligence. Yes. Both Races are extremely specialised into information warfare. It's hard to be put in words but showing you, like said in the above statement gives you a good idea about how each race does things. Gallente Scouts: have better stealth Ability Gallente "information" Equipment: Active Scanners Caldari Scouts: have better scanning ability Caldari Equipment: Cloak/ stealth The Gallente use their information more for Offensive/aggressive tactics while Caldari use their information for more Defensive tactics. To put it like this. The Gallente, lets call them "Billy", are like the School Bully/prankster, He'll stalk Timmy down and when he doesn't know when he is he'll beat Timmy's ass into the ground. The Caldari, "Timmy", are more like the Nerd on the campus, He'll do whatever he can to avoid direct conflict with Billy. However, Timmy has got a good arm and can throw rocks at Timmy but it's all over for Timmy if Billy gets anywhere close to him. This is why Billy has a heightened perception and knows how to hide from Billy so well. Years of being paranoid have taught him how to counter Billys attacks. But in the end, Little Timmy is still a little *****. Then Andy the Amarr comes around and informs the authorities of Billy and Timmy's fighting after they break a window. Billy and Timmy' are sentenced to 30 hours community service so they can better reflect on their actions.(Amarr in a nutshell folks). Meanwhile Manny the Minmitar is eating glue in the sandbox.
And Andy kept telling him not to, it was for his own good, even got him a 30 minute detention.....but he still wouldn't stop eating the glue.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:19:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. Right wing? Facist? UmGǪ
Look up the Hawks voting block and the Black Eagles. The Gallentean authorities can hide behind the word demorcracy all they want..... it doesn't change that they are subduing those who would speak freely and of course preventing the independence of states who wish to leave the Federation.
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