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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:21:00 -
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Please pardon my lack of knowledge, but isn't the Gallante race the most technologically advance race? If so, why do they seem to have some of the worst weapons in the game? For example, the AR appears to me like an inferior weapon in comparison to the CR and the RR. The PLC is another example that I can think of right now. On the other hand, i think the suits are pretty good. |
Michael-J-Fox Richards
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:22:00 -
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i thought the amarr were supposed to be technologically advanced, all i know is that we're the good guys
i fought in WW2, viet nam and in near future wars involving robots all in one lifetime just like MGS and COD characters!
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
332
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:27:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:i thought the amarr were supposed to be technologically advanced, all i know is that we're the good guys
Good guys always win right? |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9227
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:28:00 -
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Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1576
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda.
We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar.
Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9229
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:37:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda. We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government.
I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more.......
You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1576
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda. We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government. I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALDARI?
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9230
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:45:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda. We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government. I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALDARI?
They don't want to unify. Just be left alone.
It's also not propaganda look deep into the lore and you will find so very interesting things that would put most people off of the Gallente.
State and Police Censorship. Drug Culture and abuse in younger members of society. Widespread religious natures inclusive of Gallentean's practising the Amarr Faith
I mean come of I actively accept the Amarr do some crazy **** and roll with it.....still better than living in your fantasy world where you knowledge of your own faction equations to "Freeeeeedom" or "Democracy, Democracy......"
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5462
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:48:00 -
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They are all advanced in in specific areas. Amarr and Gallente are tied in their technological capabilities and Caldari are closely behind the two. Minmitar, obviously would be in last place but they have the most ingenuity out of the four Empires.
Coincidentally if you look at the Medium Suits Eyes it goes in order from who *I think* is the most advanced race:
Gallente: Four Eyes Amarr: "Three Eyes" not really eyes and then they have a "third eye" Caldari: Two eyes although you can't really tell because from face value it looks like there's none. Minmitar: One Eye.
ALSO, coincidentally the eyes kinda represent each race. Gallente's 4 eyes: Egg heads (who said smart people had to be ugly) Amarr's "Third Eye": "Spiritual awareness" Caldari's seemingly eyeless face: Caldari put their society above the individual Minmitar's one eye: Pirates or they are probably so stupid they shot their eye out after playing with a bb gun they got for Christmas.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
332
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:53:00 -
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Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? |
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5464
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:55:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Please pardon my lack of knowledge, but isn't the Gallante race the most technologically advanced race? If so, why do they seem to have some of the worst weapons in the game? For example, the AR appears to me like an inferior weapon in comparison to the CR and the RR. The PLC is another example that I can think of right now. On the other hand, i think the suits are pretty good. To answer our question though Gallente Suits are some of the best suits in the game (not counting the Assaults because most assaults are sub-par right now) it's just that our weapons are completely terrible. The only thing I'd trust that's Gallente is a Flux Grenade and that's pretty sad.
Also I think Light Frames and Medium frame Gallente Suits should get their armor repair rates switched.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1577
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda. We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government. I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALDARI? They don't want to unify. Just be left alone. It's also not propaganda look deep into the lore and you will find so very interesting things that would put most people off of the Gallente. State and Police Censorship. Drug Culture and abuse in younger members of society. Widespread religious natures inclusive of Gallentean's practising the Amarr Faith I mean come of I actively accept the Amarr do some crazy **** and roll with it.....still better than living in your fantasy world where you knowledge of your own faction equations to "Freeeeeedom" or "Democracy, Democracy......"
>.> You know I don't think we're perfect. Do love some freedom pie though. I mean. The Black Eagle for one. Then there's the actual culture and the extremes of it, although I wholly accept the extremes as long as it doesn't lead to the actual suffering of others. And while we're all about "liberty" and liberal ideas, we're pretty traditional when you think about it but that's not really a problem I guess. There's also arrogance and the encouragement of laziness(remember about the drones?). A lot of the Gallente people are also "social justice" whores to the point where they'll twist words and fake injustices to make themselves look better.
It's pretty on the outside but a lot of ugly on the inside. But tolerable and even loveable if you look past the ugliness.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9230
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:58:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators?
Yes we did enslave the Minmatar but not for the reasons I am sure you are thinking of....Amarrian slavery has no real world parallels.
As for the Caldari.....no...not really. Tibus Heth would have been a "dictator"....but for the most part the Megacorporations run the State.... and all people are looked after and provided for by the Megacorps....to varying degrees.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5467
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:59:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? Minmitar were enslaved by the Amarr. Recently however, some Minmitar slaves were emancipated.
The Caldari have a unique system of Government that I can't really explain in laymans terms.
True A. could probably do a better job at explaining the Caldari's Government in a more understandable way.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1577
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:00:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators?
There's still Minmatar slaves in the empire. And I guess you could consider the Caldari a dictatorship. It's not a negative though, as the people truly believe in it. Essentially they're ruled over by 8 megacorporations with thousands of sub-corporations under their blue umbrella.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12018
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:03:00 -
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There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
Secondly, in terms of technological advances - This is not something that is easily comparable. How do you define 'technologically advanced'? The Minmatar are obviously behind in terms of this, but the Amarr, Gallente, and Caldari all have their own technologies that differ widely in style and function. How would you compare a drone and a laser in terms of 'technology'?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9230
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:16:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? There's still Minmatar slaves in the empire. And I guess you could consider the Caldari a dictatorship. It's not a negative though, as the people truly believe in it. Essentially they're ruled over by 8 megacorporations with thousands of sub-corporations under their blue umbrella.
314 Billion of them actually accprding to EVE Source.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9230
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:18:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Is it true the minmatar were slaved by the amarr and caldary are dictators? Minmitar were enslaved by the Amarr. Recently however, some Minmitar slaves were emancipated. The Caldari have a unique system of Government that I can't really explain in laymans terms. True A. could probably do a better job at explaining the Caldari's Government in a more understandable way.
I could....these are very basic descriptions and explanations because I know not everyone wants me to recount the founding a social structure of the empires.
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
165
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:20:00 -
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we're the good guys
i fought in WW2, viet nam and in near future wars involving robots all in one lifetime just like MGS and COD characters!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9230
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:21:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
Secondly, in terms of technological advances - This is not something that is easily comparable. How do you define 'technologically advanced'? The Minmatar are obviously behind in terms of this, but the Amarr, Gallente, and Caldari all have their own technologies that differ widely in style and function. How would you compare a drone and a laser in terms of 'technology'?
Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar.
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
403
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:25:00 -
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None of the factions in EVE are good/evil. Generally speaking they all fit in a grey neutral area between good and evil.
The Caldari are supposed to the most technologically advanced, followed by the Amarr, Gallente and then the Minmatar. The raking doesn't include magnitude so Minmatar are way at the bottom whilst Amarr and Gallente are closer in level.
This is based off of EVE chronicles.
Also the AR is decent within its effective range. Its meant to be a shorter range weapon so it being called a rifle is probably incorrect. Its more like a carbine. |
Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
170
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:35:00 -
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Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
PS The gallente are the reason for drones
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar.
Are you suggesting that black people are by default bad
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9230
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:39:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
PS The gallente are the reason for drones
Yes they are the reasons thousands of people die every year to rogue drone attacks....
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1577
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar. Are you suggesting that black people are by default bad No, just pointing out and interesting tidbit that someone pointed out to me the other day. I found it interesting.
I believe there was no such thing as a Black Gallente too o.O. So weird considering they're a melting pot.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1664
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Its really dependent on who you talk to.
No the Gallente are not the most technologically advanced. Technically the Jove are, followed by, a this is debatable, the Caldari or Amarr.
And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control. I was totally with you Adamance until you went balls deep with the Anti-Gallente propaganda. We're about as "good" as the Amarr or Minmatar. Can't say much about the Caldari. Barely hear much from their government. I call it as I see it and this is OOC...you want democratic hope in New Eden go talk to the Minmatar.....and they don't even really practice Democracy any more....... You want hope and unity you talk to the Amarr.
The Amarr are a bunch of salvers who built their Nation of the backs of the Minmatar.
The Amarr's main fleets got squashed in the last 2 years of them having a big head. So are weak.
Amarr's main power these days are with the Ammatar... And they are minmatar by nature.
The Caldari built secret armies and when the Federation found out they where supposed to be assimilated into the federation...
Caldari Corporations who built the hidden massive war fleets didn't like that so they Flooded an entire underwater Gallente Main city in protest killing millions...
Caldari are the scum of the universe completely out for profit and screwing over the populous to get it.
The Gallante supported the Minmatar rebellion for freedom, Otherwise the Amarr would of killed everyone of them.
Amarr and Caldari are the ass hat's of the universe... At least wear that hat with pride if you are going to done the pride of an Amarrian. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5468
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:Amarr has the population and the religious motives, Gallente has the tech.
PS The gallente are the reason for drones Yes they are the reasons thousands of people die every year to rogue drone attacks.... oopsie
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
5468
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:48:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are a lot of flawed comparisons in this thread.
Firstly, there are no good guys and bad guys. There is no black and white. Every faction has some skeletons in their closet and every faction could argue that they're doing the 'right thing'.
Though the issue is understandable....prior to one of the builds for EVE you couldn't even create "white" minmatar. Are you suggesting that black people are by default bad No, just pointing out and interesting tidbit that someone pointed out to me the other day. I found it interesting. I believe there was no such thing as a Black Gallente too o.O. So weird considering they're a melting pot. My Character in EVE is a black Gallente.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2659
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:00:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:I believe there was no such thing as a Black Gallente too o.O. So weird considering they're a melting pot. My Character in EVE is a black Gallente. Hey I remember you just, never put it together.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Spademan
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
1112
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: And no the Gallente are not the Good Guys they are a right wing pseudo fascist police state able to hide this behind the ignorance of trillions of strung out junkies and media control.
I'll have you know that the Gallente Federation is a shining example of democracy. If you hate the Gallente then you hate freedom itself. For is that not what all strive for? The freedom to be a Gallente citizen?
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