Vets seriously need to think about supporting the new players anyway they can to keep them here instead of stomping them all the time.

if you go back one year exactly people were pronouncing this game dead yet you are currently pronouncing that it is "dying"

It's really not.

Also, we see this post three or four times a week.

I hate to say it, but its dying off.

Yes it has potential but where it stands right now its surely dying off, you will have your loyal players but soon enough they wont have the meat (clones) to fight against but themselves. Deny it all you want but I havent seen an increase in playerbase since ever thats even if the number shown is even real or just something slapped on to make it look good.

Vets seriously need to think about supporting the new players anyway they can to keep them here instead of stomping them all the time.

I hate to say it, but its dying off.

Going through the forums just makes it worse, for a player thats thinking of joining or recently joined and comes on the forums, they would be turned off by the sheer amount of crying whinging sooking qqing trolls blah blah, its not healthy.

Yes it has potential but where it stands right now its surely dying off, you will have your loyal players but soon enough they wont have the meat (clones) to fight against but themselves. Deny it all you want but I havent seen an increase in playerbase since ever thats even if the number shown is even real or just something slapped on to make it look good.

Seriously needs to be thought about, or try to rack up as much money for loyal players as u can then leave them to there own demise , try launch into ps4 , cause it doesn't seem like new content is cutting it anymore. You might even ned to take the servers down for hibernation and rework rethink or even ditch the entire thing altogether.

Going from playing at least once a day down to once a week if that, due to staleness will do its toll on people no matter what and it will be impossible to get them back once they have found something better. Hate all you want in this thread it doesnt cover the fact that its happening and tbh im just going to ignore you unless u have something intelligent to say or ideas on how you think it won't happen.

You have tried your best, and do hope im proven wrong it just seems very unlikely you will recover from the rut that has become dust 514 and its as bad as quicksand struggle all you want and it will get worse.

Vets seriously need to think about supporting the new players anyway they can to keep them here instead of stomping them all the time.

Damn wall of text. Tried to keep it PG.

Best of luck to you, ill be floating around(definately not on these miserable forums which I think are contributing to the loss of players) due to the negativity of players

Toodles , if you plan replying make it worthwhile. Otherwise your just adding to my thread that dust is dying from the nogood posters dragging the game into oblivion.

(It is ironic that my post is entirely negative as well and I know this no need to point it out)

I hate to say it, but its dying off.

Going through the forums just makes it worse, for a player thats thinking of joining or recently joined and comes on the forums, they would be turned off by the sheer amount of crying whinging sooking qqing trolls blah blah, its not healthy.

Yes it has potential but where it stands right now its surely dying off, you will have your loyal players but soon enough they wont have the meat (clones) to fight against but themselves. Deny it all you want but I havent seen an increase in playerbase since ever thats even if the number shown is even real or just something slapped on to make it look good.

Seriously needs to be thought about, or try to rack up as much money for loyal players as u can then leave them to there own demise , try launch into ps4 , cause it doesn't seem like new content is cutting it anymore. You might even ned to take the servers down for hibernation and rework rethink or even ditch the entire thing altogether.

Going from playing at least once a day down to once a week if that, due to staleness will do its toll on people no matter what and it will be impossible to get them back once they have found something better. Hate all you want in this thread it doesnt cover the fact that its happening and tbh im just going to ignore you unless u have something intelligent to say or ideas on how you think it won't happen.

You have tried your best, and do hope im proven wrong it just seems very unlikely you will recover from the rut that has become dust 514 and its as bad as quicksand struggle all you want and it will get worse.

Vets seriously need to think about supporting the new players anyway they can to keep them here instead of stomping them all the time.

Damn wall of text. Tried to keep it PG.

Best of luck to you, ill be floating around(definately not on these miserable forums which I think are contributing to the loss of players) due to the negativity of players

Toodles , if you plan replying make it worthwhile. Otherwise your just adding to my thread that dust is dying from the nogood posters dragging the game into oblivion.

(It is ironic that my post is entirely negative as well and I know this no need to point it out)

Im sorry I admit I didnt read OP whole ebook because im a little strapped for time. Jk. I usually would have. It wasnt that long and a lot more could easily be said. Its definitely not a healthy atmosphere to try and find new classes of mercs to come in and commit as much time as this game really takes. Its a whole bunch of never gotten back time. I've spent a lot of time. Hey has anyone spent a booty load of earth minutes playing this. Just saying CCp, you gonna come all the way here and realign my space/time continuum harmonization gizmo. Yea didnt think you guys would have the time either. Well you should as much as you have conned out of us. Jk, love you guys. Explain that later. I hadn't posted anything since idk 1.4 or 1.5 because as a player finally not hating to play a game I wanted to love anymore but actually just loving it and straight live in flesh living it. Im not going to lie and say I'm deleting my guy and donating my isk to a Corp that hates ccp like me. Not my style. I dont hate them. That would be mean and evil to say I hate a bunch of random Norwegianers that came together to form a good company that has just gone south of the hemisphere a lil. Ok so back to me, not a big complainer even when I spent the first six months in therapy trying to figure out why I would pay to play a game that caused me to yell bad names at cute puppies and scream things at an inanimate object describing vivid things release from my bowel region down his throat until he exploded or started releasing his bowels in a similar manner to release pressure and save his life. Buy Aur, will it make me not want to cry, man let me just say without too much info im an Aur horror, it bleeped the real spelling so go teach the native tongue elsewhere you do gooders. Ok, I mean I was pretty addicted to it, that innocent looking Aur, reminds me of precious cyber gold. Obviously I'm over that phase. I just got my 7 day chip but man no tellin what I would do for a few thousand Aur and an active booster. I'm twitching. I know people have killed for less, maybe not but thats not necessary since I still have a legit credit card that my therapist/mom holds. Alright I'm maybe a vet now, maybe a noob with honors if I'm being judged But I came in kinda late. Im just over 12mil SP but was committed big past few months. Im done. I don't care who argues with my thoughts, hope they do and others that agree too though. Im a drama horror too. Thats some kind of weird actors guild short poem. Ok I'm not that. Tom Cruise maybe.I bet Tom thinks 1.8 sucks so bad he would trade all those Oscars I remember someone from that one movie winning. Off the top im sorry tom I must of missed your acceptance speech because im drawing a blank. I'm sure you received best actor and supporting actor for Jerry McGuire unless that kid thats a dude now won it. Whatever go make Mi12 already. What about kills Voztron, ok I was finally getting my kills above my deaths and this new set up blows. Can't keep track of all the shite going on. Im a man who agrees with variety is the spice of life. But seriously how many F'n guns do we need. Hey Ccp when it takes 15 minutes to scroll down a list of made up guns, that means you made up too many. Give everyone skills in suit and weapon of choice and rewind to 1.7. My daily log on has already messed my daily 6000isk bonus up and I don't see me logging in 7 straight days anymore for once again hating logging in to a game I hate but thought I might of loved. Better to have loved to play than to never have played a game you hated is what I always say . Yea you guys know what im talking about. CcP you so crazy.

Update: I came back because I was able to save a little extra time by taking a shortcut from my friends girlfriends house to McDonald's and.by seeing my friend on his way to her house I was forced to reroute and some people have all the luck because I now have time for 45 sec of much needed pillow talk. Purpose of being here is cuz I just wanted to assure all on this very controversial thread that I read it through its entirety front to back. Not Just OP but all you brave merc puppeteers who decided today was the day to stand against tyranny and demand or own mexican candian hybrid pilots. We can not cubanize, wait that's supposed to go in my post at abovetopsecret dot.com regarding the inevitable north American takeover by chinese Russian hybrid aliens. See you guys wonder why I'm not more upset about the promise of free aur.sent to my house is because we have commie aliens in our rooms right now wearing much better cloaking devices than the pretend ones on dust, I think they have a rookie this human room night excursion and possibly has an older gen cloak unit because I keep hearing the clicking of like a kitchen timer winding up, so I guess the real ones had time limits with buzzers and alerts that give away your position, that sounds dangerous. Alright gotta run. Buddy just text me if I leave now I can beat the police and ambulance to a wreck site. No I'm not going there, wont be stopping just driving by before traffic gets backed up. Gotta be careful accidentally ran over some grandpa's other still attached leg because the damn ambulance was trying to pass me on the shoulder. I made it to work though. Flat tire and all. Who knew bone was as much a tire hazard as nails. Im glad that happened. Knowledge is beautiful. Ccp you still bees crazy.

Yawn.

I remove the inactive players from D-UNI at the beginning of every month and I did the same this month on April 1st , removing all those that hadn't logged on throughout the whole of March.

Guess what?

It was the lowest number I've had to kick for inactivity ever. We have a 82.5% retention rate for players joining D-UNI, the vast majority are new toons (yes, I check the employment history and creation date of every toon that joins us), returning players and you'd be surprised at the number of vets that join us.

Remember that 82.5% just represents those that stay in the UNI for the full month. The retention rate is actually closer to 90% when you take into account those that leave the UNI to join other active corps.

As to this 2k total active player figure that is a little low to be honest because if we have an active 500+ members in a month in D-UNI, then we alone represent 25% of the whole Dust population which of course is nonsense.

Taking into account the drop off of players as Downtime approaches and the 23.5 hour cycle, I'd guesstimate that the number of players that log on at least once a week numbers between 6 to 8k with a more active daily core of roughly about 3-4k that log on for more than an 30 mins.

The other way of working it out is that I know from what I've been told by Saberwing is that the players that take the time to post in the forums is roughly 10% of what is considered to be the active player base, which in most FTP games is considered to be those that log on once a week.

A quick look through dustsearch.com gives me a rough figure of around 500 active posters in the forum so 5K. I think it's a little higher myself and I've tweeted Chribba for a more accurate figure.

Updated.

I asked Chribba for players that have posted 10 times or more over the last four week. I figure that would get us the very active ones and his results are here.

246 is the total number that post here regularly in the last 4 weeks giving us a rough estimate of 2.5k very active players. Not great but I'd still say the number of casual players would be at least that as well.

Dusts numbers come and go. One of Dusts better aspects, for me atleast, is I can leave it be mostly for some time and when I come back to it I have some SP to spend. I wish there was some ISK to be had that way too, but you know...aurum and stuff.

As to the forums, yes there is whining and arguing, but there is also a lot of decent, humorous, and helpful people who inhabit these forums. So its is just like society at large mostly decent people with a bunch of loud, ignorant @ssholes scattered throughout.