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MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 313	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:24:00 - [31] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Jax Saurian wrote: Now all you need to do is get killed at least 100 times by a single infantry no matter what tactics you use then BOOM your argument is complete until then Tanks are still OP (but they are almost balanced) (almost) If you think tanks are OP, you're probably trying to destroy them with infantry weapons. or you use infantry..... as a member of bother worlds infantry is right you are wrong. infantry will never balance tanks for fighting other tanks, but infantry av is just laughable. Infantry just "balanced" tank vs tank combat. Instead of CCP listening to actual constructive feedback from vehicle players about what should be done with vehicle hardener stacking problem they listened to infantry. And now look at it, it's completely broken. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6346	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:27:00 - [32] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Been there, done that. Can I get my cookie now? You were killed by the same person 100 times? Lol? The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6346	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:29:00 - [33] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: How dare we have variety We should only be allowed to fit 1 of each module and all have the same fit You think this is a sandbox? no this is concrete where we tell you how to play, when to kill, when to hack and when to die It's not like AV has variety either. Only 2 Weapons actually worth a damn (usually 1 depending on the situation), and the fittings all involve Damage Mod stacking. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6346	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:32:00 - [34] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: We tried reason, you didn't listen, so now it's time to play by your rules. Nerf Armor Plate stacking, it's so OP, it can make you nigh unkillable especially if you have someone repping you. Nerf Profile Dampener stacking, it can make you unscannable even by vehicle scanners. Nerf Kin Cat stacking, it can actually make you so fast that you are almost impossible to track. Nerf Cardiac Regs, they can make your stamina way too high and regen way too fast. Nerf Codebreakers, they can make you hack way too fast. I could go on, but I wont, but I could. Did I mention CPU Upgrades? Nerf those too. How does it feel? Now how about presenting video evidence with explanation about how these are gamebreaking like the Infantry side did? (Technically it was presented by a neutral party, but the evidence did enforce the Infantry side's point) The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 313	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:36:00 - [35] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Except you're not using logic, not even infantry logic as you put it; you're like one of those kids that put a sarcastic twist on what people say because they hurt your feelings. Hold on (of course you wont actually have to hold on as you read this), I am gonna go and quickly look for the closest infantry statement that I can find. And here we are: pyramidhead 420 wrote: should be zero stacking in this game period. maximum, one of each mod per fit. that way, fitting something would require a brain, instead of how much hp can I stack and rep R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 313	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:39:00 - [36] - Quote Atiim wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: We tried reason, you didn't listen, so now it's time to play by your rules. Nerf Armor Plate stacking, it's so OP, it can make you nigh unkillable especially if you have someone repping you. Nerf Profile Dampener stacking, it can make you unscannable even by vehicle scanners. Nerf Kin Cat stacking, it can actually make you so fast that you are almost impossible to track. Nerf Cardiac Regs, they can make your stamina way too high and regen way too fast. Nerf Codebreakers, they can make you hack way too fast. I could go on, but I wont, but I could. Did I mention CPU Upgrades? Nerf those too. How does it feel? Now how about presenting video evidence with explanation about how these are gamebreaking like the Infantry side did? (Technically it was presented by a neutral party, but the evidence did enforce the Infantry side's point) Which video are you referring to? I would be very interested to know. If you are talking about the CEO Pyrex's video linked earlier today then I can only laugh at how much attention you paid to that video. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6346	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:39:00 - [37] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Except you're not using logic, not even infantry logic as you put it; you're like one of those kids that put a sarcastic twist on what people say because they hurt your feelings. Hold on (of course you wont actually have to hold on as you read this), I am gonna go and quickly look for the closest infantry statement that I can find. And here we are: pyramidhead 420 wrote: should be zero stacking in this game period. maximum, one of each mod per fit. that way, fitting something would require a brain, instead of how much hp can I stack and rep The statement of 1 person does not equate to the general consensus of an entire community subset. Or would it be fair to say that EnglishSnake & Spkr4TheDead share the common beliefs and goals of the entire Pilot community? The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6346	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:41:00 - [38] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Which video are you referring to? I would be very interested to know. If you are talking about the CEO Pyrex's video linked earlier today then I can only laugh at how much attention you paid to that video. Video proof and explanation about why Hardeners (and Dropships by proxy) needed to be fixed. Here The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 314	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:41:00 - [39] - Quote Atiim wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: How dare we have variety We should only be allowed to fit 1 of each module and all have the same fit You think this is a sandbox? no this is concrete where we tell you how to play, when to kill, when to hack and when to die It's not like AV has variety either. Only 2 Weapons actually worth a damn (usually 1 depending on the situation), and the fittings all involve Damage Mod stacking. Just because infantry doesn't have many AV weapons, doesn't mean that they don't have a lot of variety in modules. We don't, CCP took that away from us in 1.7. And we don't have many AI weapons either, just the Blaster tbh. And on top of Blaster we have 2 AV weapons, Rail and Missiles (that really only work against Armor tanks unless the Shield tanker is total scrub). Atiim wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Which video are you referring to? I would be very interested to know. If you are talking about the CEO Pyrex's video linked earlier today then I can only laugh at how much attention you paid to that video. Video proof and explanation about why Hardeners (and Dropships by proxy) needed to be fixed. Here I am not even gonna start talking about Dropship base resistance to Swarms. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Derrith Erador Arrogance. 1465	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:42:00 - [40] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Jax Saurian wrote: Now all you need to do is get killed at least 100 times by a single infantry no matter what tactics you use then BOOM your argument is complete until then Tanks are still OP (but they are almost balanced) (almost) Tanks are balanced now, unless I've been missing something... they can be soloed by someone specialized in Anti Vehicle work are you fighting subpar tankers? because that is the only time you should be able to solo a tank. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.

ReGnYuM Dirt Nap Squad. 2642	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:43:00 - [41] - Quote TANK QQ IS THE BEST QQ... The Pathway to Hell is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 90.31% Complete
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 314	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:44:00 - [42] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Jax Saurian wrote: Now all you need to do is get killed at least 100 times by a single infantry no matter what tactics you use then BOOM your argument is complete until then Tanks are still OP (but they are almost balanced) (almost) Tanks are balanced now, unless I've been missing something... they can be soloed by someone specialized in Anti Vehicle work are you fighting subpar tankers? because that is the only time you should be able to solo a tank. Are you bad @ AV? If you are, you don't know how to solo a tank. Not saying any tank can be soloed cause someone might get away, but any tank can be driven away from the battlezone by a solo AV guy. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2299	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:45:00 - [43] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: calisk galern wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Jax Saurian wrote: Now all you need to do is get killed at least 100 times by a single infantry no matter what tactics you use then BOOM your argument is complete until then Tanks are still OP (but they are almost balanced) (almost) If you think tanks are OP, you're probably trying to destroy them with infantry weapons. or you use infantry..... as a member of bother worlds infantry is right you are wrong. infantry will never balance tanks for fighting other tanks, but infantry av is just laughable. Infantry just "balanced" tank vs tank combat. Instead of CCP listening to actual constructive feedback from vehicle players about what should be done with vehicle hardener stacking problem they listened to infantry. And now look at it, it's completely broken. yep like I said, infantry can't decide what the nerf is, but they are completely right that their is a problem.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 314	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:45:00 - [44] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: TANK QQ IS THE BEST QQ... SO IS INFANTRY QQ... At least I'm having such good laughs here. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 314	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:47:00 - [45] - Quote Atiim wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Except you're not using logic, not even infantry logic as you put it; you're like one of those kids that put a sarcastic twist on what people say because they hurt your feelings. Hold on (of course you wont actually have to hold on as you read this), I am gonna go and quickly look for the closest infantry statement that I can find. And here we are: pyramidhead 420 wrote: should be zero stacking in this game period. maximum, one of each mod per fit. that way, fitting something would require a brain, instead of how much hp can I stack and rep The statement of 1 person does not equate to the general consensus of an entire community subset. Or would it be fair to say that EnglishSnake & Spkr4TheDead share the common beliefs and goals of the entire Pilot community? If you really want me to, I can find more similar QQ from the past few days here on the forums, or better yet, use your own eyes and see what's going on. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 314	Posted - 2014.04.02 18:51:00 - [46] - Quote calisk galern wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: calisk galern wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Jax Saurian wrote: Now all you need to do is get killed at least 100 times by a single infantry no matter what tactics you use then BOOM your argument is complete until then Tanks are still OP (but they are almost balanced) (almost) If you think tanks are OP, you're probably trying to destroy them with infantry weapons. or you use infantry..... as a member of bother worlds infantry is right you are wrong. infantry will never balance tanks for fighting other tanks, but infantry av is just laughable. Infantry just "balanced" tank vs tank combat. Instead of CCP listening to actual constructive feedback from vehicle players about what should be done with vehicle hardener stacking problem they listened to infantry. And now look at it, it's completely broken. yep like I said, infantry can't decide what the nerf is, but they are completely right that their is a problem. There was a problem, but vehicle pilots actually provided constructive feedback in regards to what should have been done about it, but CCP decided to only listen to "QQ nerf them, nerf them!" instead of tweaking them or even taking vehicle pilot ideas into any sort of consideration. Now they are completely useless in vehicle vs. vehicle fights. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 718	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:13:00 - [47] - Quote You know, I really think you have put way too much stock in CCP's methods of buffing and nerfing things... Asking the community for help? Taking our feedback and actually rolling with it. It all comes down to their playtests, look at the Heavy nerf they were planning, that didn't come from the community (at least that I saw), that came from them, and them alone. So, let's all just simmer down, CCP is like the proverbial Honey Badger, they don't care. Lol... That's all I'm gonna say on the subject, I will go back to reading this, hopefully it will get funny... xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Michael Cratar Fenrir's Wolves 317	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:13:00 - [48] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: We tried reason, you didn't listen, so now it's time to play by your rules. Nerf Armor Plate stacking, it's so OP, it can make you nigh unkillable especially if you have someone repping you. Nerf Profile Dampener stacking, it can make you unscannable even by vehicle scanners. Nerf Kin Cat stacking, it can actually make you so fast that you are almost impossible to track. Nerf Cardiac Regs, they can make your stamina way too high and regen way too fast. Nerf Codebreakers, they can make you hack way too fast. I could go on, but I wont, but I could. Did I mention CPU Upgrades? Nerf those too. How does it feel? I can agree with this. It would give people a better reason to get proto mods. I do not know love, only ( -í° -£-û -í°). Closed Beta Vet
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 316	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:20:00 - [49] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: You know, I really think you have put way too much stock in CCP's methods of buffing and nerfing things... Asking the community for help? Taking our feedback and actually rolling with it. It all comes down to their playtests, look at the Heavy nerf they were planning, that didn't come from the community (at least that I saw), that came from them, and them alone. So, let's all just simmer down, CCP is like the proverbial Honey Badger, they don't care. Lol... That's all I'm gonna say on the subject, I will go back to reading this, hopefully it will get funny... You are right about the heavy nerf, but other than that it's usually the result of QQ overflow. And just look at my thread, whenever I post something serious nobody cares, but when I make a QQ post (for my own entertainment mostly) then my thread overflows. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Bax Zanith 99	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:34:00 - [50] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: We tried reason, you didn't listen, so now it's time to play by your rules. Nerf Armor Plate stacking, it's so OP, it can make you nigh unkillable especially if you have someone repping you. Nerf Profile Dampener stacking, it can make you unscannable even by vehicle scanners. Nerf Kin Cat stacking, it can actually make you so fast that you are almost impossible to track. Nerf Cardiac Regs, they can make your stamina way too high and regen way too fast. Nerf Codebreakers, they can make you hack way too fast. I could go on, but I wont, but I could. Did I mention CPU Upgrades? Nerf those too. How does it feel? What the hell are you talking about? Im guessing its about complaints from infantry that vehicles are allowed to use more than 1 mod and thats unfair while infantry stack multiple mods and thats balanced That's right, it's so incredibly OP to stack anything, I cannot believe anyone is allowed to stack anything. I mean like wtf? Your mods made you death proof, our mods don't do that. Your hardeners allowed you, one player, to take on a team of 16 withought too much thought, can you name a single infentry mod that allows one to do that? Are swarms and or forgas oneshoting you, are they preventing you from leaving your redline? No? Then start stacking armor reps with the rest of your kind, and deal with it. I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.

MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 316	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:37:00 - [51] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: We tried reason, you didn't listen, so now it's time to play by your rules. Nerf Armor Plate stacking, it's so OP, it can make you nigh unkillable especially if you have someone repping you. Nerf Profile Dampener stacking, it can make you unscannable even by vehicle scanners. Nerf Kin Cat stacking, it can actually make you so fast that you are almost impossible to track. Nerf Cardiac Regs, they can make your stamina way too high and regen way too fast. Nerf Codebreakers, they can make you hack way too fast. I could go on, but I wont, but I could. Did I mention CPU Upgrades? Nerf those too. How does it feel? What the hell are you talking about? Im guessing its about complaints from infantry that vehicles are allowed to use more than 1 mod and thats unfair while infantry stack multiple mods and thats balanced That's right, it's so incredibly OP to stack anything, I cannot believe anyone is allowed to stack anything. I mean like wtf? Your mods made you death proof, our mods don't do that. Your hardeners allowed you, one player, to take on a team of 16 withought too much thought, can you name a single infentry mod that allows one to do that? Are swarms and or forgas oneshoting you, are they preventing you from leaving your redline? No? Then start stacking armor reps with the rest of your kind, and deal with it. Lol Armor Repped tank is terribad against good players. Just wanted to get that out of the way first. Now, I never said hardener stacking without any sort of penalties was balanced, on the contrary, it wasn't, I just think they needed a tweak, not a direct nerf, as now the only way to make them effective is to stack them. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2284	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:38:00 - [52] - Quote Stop crying. Only hardeners and rails were nerfed. It was completely justified, too Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6347	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:39:00 - [53] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: are you fighting subpar tankers? because that is the only time you should be able to solo a tank. Then by those standards, pilots should only be able to solo subpar AV. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 316	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:39:00 - [54] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Stop crying. Only hardeners and rails were nerfed. It was completely justified, too I'm not even talking about that. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6347	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:40:00 - [55] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Lol Armor Repped tank is terribad against good players. Just wanted to get that out of the way first. Now, I never said hardener stacking without any sort of penalties was balanced, on the contrary, it wasn't, I just think they needed a tweak, not a direct nerf, as now the only way to make them effective is to stack them. So now everyone who doesn't have a vehicle or Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun is bad? You say that as if tankers wouldn't stack hardeners anyways. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 316	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:40:00 - [56] - Quote Atiim wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: are you fighting subpar tankers? because that is the only time you should be able to solo a tank. Then by those standards, pilots should only be able to solo subpar AV. Damn right, that's how it should be. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 316	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:44:00 - [57] - Quote Atiim wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Lol Armor Repped tank is terribad against good players. Just wanted to get that out of the way first. Now, I never said hardener stacking without any sort of penalties was balanced, on the contrary, it wasn't, I just think they needed a tweak, not a direct nerf, as now the only way to make them effective is to stack them. So now everyone who doesn't have a vehicle or Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun is bad? You say that as if tankers wouldn't stack hardeners anyways. Do you have to twist everything I say? They probably would, but if it had downsides to it they would have to actually plan accordingly when to use them. For instance, my proposal for Shield Hardeners was to keep 60% but give 30% reduction to top speed and acceleration, so 90% if all 3 are active. You are basically almost immobile. And for Armor Hardeners 40% and 25% speed and acceleration reduction. So if they stacked 2 they would have lost half their speed when they activated both. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Toby Flenderson research lab 428	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:45:00 - [58] - Quote Jax Saurian wrote: Now all you need to do is get killed at least 100 times by a single infantry no matter what tactics you use then BOOM your argument is complete until then Tanks are still OP (but they are almost balanced) (almost) This exactly. If I can destroy a tank by running and Mario jumping them, go ahead and nerf biotic upgrades. I really don't see how the OP thinks he's making a valid comparison. Module A does something useful, therefore nerf it just like the hardeners, no matter what it was. Also if you can't kill someone stacking biotics then you're not very good. It must take like 2 blaster shots to kill them if they're not stacking armor. Are you actually saying that's unreasonable?
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 316	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:52:00 - [59] - Quote Ok, I think it's time to end this troll, thanks for all the fun guys, you were great. Except Charlotte, I expected much more from you. I really don't give a sh!t about your puny infantry modules. For all I care you can have small nukes that oblitirate all enemy vehicles on the battlefield. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Toby Flenderson research lab 428	Posted - 2014.04.02 19:54:00 - [60] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: We tried reason, you didn't listen, so now it's time to play by your rules. Nerf Armor Plate stacking, it's so OP, it can make you nigh unkillable especially if you have someone repping you. Nerf Profile Dampener stacking, it can make you unscannable even by vehicle scanners. Nerf Kin Cat stacking, it can actually make you so fast that you are almost impossible to track. Nerf Cardiac Regs, they can make your stamina way too high and regen way too fast. Nerf Codebreakers, they can make you hack way too fast. I could go on, but I wont, but I could. Did I mention CPU Upgrades? Nerf those too. How does it feel? What the hell are you talking about? I dunno, I'm just using infantry logic. Feels so satisfying. You're missing. Badly. I'd be happy to trade you my cardiac regulators for cycling shield hardening equivalents for my drop suit any day. Would you really give up your armor repair for ours? Also keep in mind that even if you say yes to troll me, tanks can kill any infantry while only a specialized dropsuit with specific (basically otherwise useless) weapons can even pick a fight with a tank to begin with.



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