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Burntface man112
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:55:00 -
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Look at his health the entire time during this battle. This module needs a Stacking penalty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FAqJG9DGFHQ#t=208 |
Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
361
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:58:00 -
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This tactics always been around, it's only now coming to prominence because hardeners have finally been nerfed. Running a fit like that is very expensive, and so it should be hard to kill.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1903
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:02:00 -
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Reps don't need a stacking penalty, they just need to be less effective. A single rep is too effective.
With that said, the current triple rep fit has a hard counter in railguns/missiles. Three of the tanks in the video were blaster tanks and the fourth was a railgun, but he was just terrible.
The triple rep fit is a monster against AV and other blaster tanks and it's needs to be nerfed slightly, but it's not the lack of a stacking penalty that makes it too good, but rather just because the reps are too powerful.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7872
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:03:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:This tactics always been around, it's only now coming to prominence because hardeners have finally been nerfed. Running a fit like that is very expensive, and so it should be hard to kill.
Balancing by ISK is never, never, never a good idea.
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1455
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:05:00 -
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Stupid tankers are stupid.
Reps are fine. Learn to use hard counters. My missile Gunnlogi would eat up a triple rep Madrugar for breakfast.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
307
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:10:00 -
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So, he kills the first tank before he even reacts (cause that guy was stupid as hell), the next 2 tanks try to use the very thing against him that he has strong defense against, the 4th tank he kills is a total scrub who deserves to die. All this time he has Swarm support. So he fights 2v1, 2v2 and 2v1... What's the problem?
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
1837
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:20:00 -
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I was in that video standing right there (I'm the lazer. He mentioned) we had 3 RE. Scouts, a swarm and a distraction lazer. It was not all about the reps.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
363
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:57:00 -
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Oh look, judge! Hello! Just wanted to thank you for those sweet dropships flying videos, really helped me out. Keep up the great work!.
Back to the video, why shouldn't the guy with skills put into tanks be able to shred militia tanks? If you put time and effort into something, then shouldn't you do better? Why would you put skills into something if they didn't give you a benefit?
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--The Dual Swarm Commando
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12745
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:59:00 -
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Oh how I miss activated reps.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3216
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:03:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Oh how I miss activated reps.
Ask for Capacitors and you shall recieve
Intelligence is OP
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3778
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:07:00 -
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A good player in a starter fit can kill any proto suit. But apparently people seem to think that a fully fitted tank should be all but immortal. When I hear you people talk about balance it makes me a little less disdainful of CCP's bad balancing.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12745
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:07:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Oh how I miss activated reps. Ask for Capacitors and you shall recieve Lol
#CCPcoding
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1457
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Oh how I miss activated reps. Oh how I miss constant shield regen.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1460
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:10:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:A good player in a starter fit can kill any proto suit. But apparently people seem to think that a fully fitted tank should be all but immortal. When I hear you people talk about balance it makes me a little less disdainful of CCP's bad balancing. A good player in a proto suit is near invincible.
Double standards much? You're fine with letting good players actually be near invincible in full proto but fear the same with tanks.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1620
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:13:00 -
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It's obvious your experience with CCP games is very minimal.
There is an entire calculation around DPS received versus Reps per second.. He used his abilities To negate enough of the DPS that his reps out repaired the incoming DPS.
This is how EVE works too... One ship can tank 5 people.. It's all how you build your Damage versus tank and how effective the combination is.
Tankers might have to use some math *Oh noes* ... LIKE EVERYONE else has had to. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1978
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:15:00 -
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Can't put a stacking penalty on intelligence.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
47
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:47:00 -
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Really? You have a problem with that? All that video made me do was rethink my tank fit and realize that I need better tactics when running a tank. |
Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1271
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:48:00 -
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Ha! I'd hardly call that an example of why they need nerfed.
1st tank: blindsided MILITIA SHIELD TANK w/o hardener, easy kill. Wasn't even being shot at. Can basically count that out.
2nd: again, MILITIA SHIELD tank with out any shields left due to AV. Easy kill.
So that just leaves the two armor tanks as considerable opponents.
3rd: MILITIA soma with blaster. Doesn't stand a chance, can't out DPS reps. Also note, he wasn't taking fire from the rail tank, so these were basically separate battles and also had AV support.
4th: Pyrex got in close, had AV help, and the enemy tanker obviously wasn't using a good turret and want a good pilot.
Now, imagine all four attacking at the same time with the rail at range, I don't see this going quite as well. Also, throw my missile tank in the mix, or several proto forge gunners. The fit is effective at shrugging off weak/uncoordinated AV, but get some teamwork or a high alpha rail/missile and it crumples like paper.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
314
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:56:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Oh how I miss activated reps. Oh how I miss constant shield regen. How how I miss everything that we had pre-1.7.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
854
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:59:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Stupid tankers are stupid. Reps are fine. Learn to use hard counters. My missile Gunnlogi would eat up a triple rep Madrugar for breakfast. So because he has a certain thing he gets a I win button? This is op scr vs shields all over again...
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
854
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:00:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Can't put a stacking penalty on intelligence. No its op, multiple tanks were shooting him at once Tanks are super op still
Closed beta vet
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
314
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:02:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Harpyja wrote:Stupid tankers are stupid. Reps are fine. Learn to use hard counters. My missile Gunnlogi would eat up a triple rep Madrugar for breakfast. So because he has a certain thing he gets a I win button? This is op scr vs shields all over again... My argument
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
854
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:04:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Harpyja wrote:Stupid tankers are stupid. Reps are fine. Learn to use hard counters. My missile Gunnlogi would eat up a triple rep Madrugar for breakfast. So because he has a certain thing he gets a I win button? This is op scr vs shields all over again... My argument No 3 reps are op it gives no right to have an insta win machine
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
314
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:04:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Can't put a stacking penalty on intelligence. No its op, multiple tanks were shooting him at once Tanks are super op still
Could please you read what you actually said?
And then to what you actually mean: he was not fighting those enemy tanks alone, and those enemy tanks were terribad.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
314
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:05:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Harpyja wrote:Stupid tankers are stupid. Reps are fine. Learn to use hard counters. My missile Gunnlogi would eat up a triple rep Madrugar for breakfast. So because he has a certain thing he gets a I win button? This is op scr vs shields all over again... My argument No 3 reps are op it gives no right to have an insta win machine Fcking read the post.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1631
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:06:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Can't put a stacking penalty on intelligence. No its op, multiple tanks were shooting him at once Tanks are super op still
Sure if those 4 tankers hit him... As much as he hit them for accuracy? He would of died...
They where missing ALOT.... hence why his repairs per second was more then damage per second...
Using player ability to reduce the incoming DPS and knowing your reps per second is player skill not abused game mechanics...
If someone came in with a Burst High volley damage setup... Like a Missile tank with a full volley of missiles or a rail tank with damage mods... You burst Damage past the reps per second...
Hence why there are Alpha damage EVE fleets and DUST Tank or tank team setups people run. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
854
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:06:00 -
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Read who im quoting Still gives him no right to easily I win against multiple tanks shooting him at once......stuff should give you an advantage, not I win, like the scr
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
854
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:07:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Harpyja wrote:Stupid tankers are stupid. Reps are fine. Learn to use hard counters. My missile Gunnlogi would eat up a triple rep Madrugar for breakfast. So because he has a certain thing he gets a I win button? This is op scr vs shields all over again... My argument No 3 reps are op it gives no right to have an insta win machine Fcking read the post.[/quote] I did, gives no one any right to insta win against anything based on gear, hence gear>skill
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
316
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:25:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Read who im quoting Still gives him no right to easily I win against multiple tanks shooting him at once......stuff should give you an advantage, not I win, like the scr I hold Spkr4theDead in much higher value. Actually you two cannot even be compared. Sooo... your point was?
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Hawkings Greenback
Red Star. EoN.
124
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:26:00 -
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It's not that difficult to understand really.
Yes he beat 4 tanks
But, they were **** He was smart in his fit He was part of a squad Squad was co ordinating
I don't see an issue with how that vid played out. If the tanks had co ordinated then he would have died. Would it have been an issue for people then ? Or would you have just said good team work 4 tanks kill 1.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
316
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:28:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I did, gives no one any right to insta win against anything based on gear, hence gear>skill
There is a reason gear in this game has strenghts and weaknesses against certain stuff, so that one type of gear used cannot completely mop the floor with the enemy if the enemy has the slightest idea what they are doing.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1726
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:43:00 -
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Armor reppers were not supposed to be efficient while in combat per the dev post. That is all.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
1983
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:51:00 -
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So I should run Euro server so I can obliterate him repeatedly with dual or triple damage mods or a missile tank?
I'm a carried scrub!
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
316
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:56:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Armor reppers were not supposed to be efficient while in combat per the dev post. That is all. And Hardeners were meant to take a lot of punishment for a short while per the dev post. And a lot of other things didn't happen either.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9187
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:57:00 -
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Lol if you thinking killing 4 MLT solo tanks is a challenge.
With AV support like he had I have no doubt he could have faced down twice that number. Give him gunners and he could have reaped and even greater tally.
This example it not wholly a show of the triple rep tanks strength. He had Swarm support, and took them by surprise, out playing them.
I doubt many tankers worth their salt just rush enemy HAV head on.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
744
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:17:00 -
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Need I mention, those were MLT tanks?
And all of them but the one rail were blasters. Triple reps eat blasters like a champ.
I will attest though to a rail tank being unable to break the reps. At least a STD turret with no damage mods. Damage modded sica would have 3 to 4 shot it.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
10239
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:18:00 -
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The-Errorist wrote:Something needs to be done about vehicle armor repair modules; they are way too effective and for the amount of PG/CPU they take up. A proto assault forge-gunner with lv5 everything with 2 complex heavy damage mods can deal roughly 388 HP/s (reload time factored in) to armor if all the shots hit. Keep in mind that a shield tank can only recharge shields at 168 HP/s when it's not under fire from stuff that deals at least 102 alpha damage. [Incubus]Adv neutron blaster bsc afterburner cpx heavy armor repairer adv heavy armor repairer cpx PG upgrade Armor HP: 2362 Repair rate: 331.25 HP/s To kill that dropship it would take: 41.6s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 1 forge-gunner. 5.3s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 2 forge-gunners. 2.8s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 3 forge-gunners. [Madrugar]Adv neutron blaster cpx complex armor hardener - duration:45s cooldown:37.5s cpx heavy armor repairer adv heavy armor repairer Armor HP: 4000 Repair rate: 331.25 HP/s To kill that tank when the the hardener is cooling down: 70.5s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 1 forge-gunners. 9s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 2 forge-gunners. 4.8s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 3 forge-gunners. To kill that tank when it activated its harder it would take: 115.5s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 1 forge-gunners. 16s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 2 forge-gunners. 7.38s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 3 forge-gunners. [Madrugar]Adv neutron blaster 2 cpx armor repair adv heavy repairers Armor HP: 4000 Repair rate: 512.5 HP/s To kill that tank it would take: 1 forgegunner will never be able kill it.15.18s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 2 forge-gunners. 6.14s of uninterrupted proto assault forge-gun fire from 3 forge-gunners.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
744
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:19:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lol if you thinking killing 4 MLT tanks solo is a challenge.
With AV support like he had I have no doubt he could have faced down twice that number. Give him gunners and he could have reaped and even greater tally.
This example it not wholly a show of the triple rep tanks strength. He had Swarm support, and took them by surprise, out playing them.
I doubt many tankers worth their salt just rush enemy HAV head on.
If it say MLT you damn sure do. I do this often.
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Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
566
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:32:00 -
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Reps need to be active again with serious fitting requirements.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
377
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:19:00 -
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God, the QQ
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1470
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lol if you thinking killing 4 MLT tanks solo is a challenge.
With AV support like he had I have no doubt he could have faced down twice that number. Give him gunners and he could have reaped and even greater tally.
This example it not wholly a show of the triple rep tanks strength. He had Swarm support, and took them by surprise, out playing them.
I doubt many tankers worth their salt just rush enemy HAV head on. Sometimes blitzing them works well too. At least with damage modded proto missiles. But that's against armor tanks. I stalk shield tanks and wait for their hardeners to come offline.
But yeah he wasn't even soloing them. He had AV support and engaged them one at a time. Also they just simply sucked.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9196
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:23:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lol if you thinking killing 4 MLT tanks solo is a challenge.
With AV support like he had I have no doubt he could have faced down twice that number. Give him gunners and he could have reaped and even greater tally.
This example it not wholly a show of the triple rep tanks strength. He had Swarm support, and took them by surprise, out playing them.
I doubt many tankers worth their salt just rush enemy HAV head on. If it say MLT you damn sure do. I do this often.
I don't go into battle any more without small turrets mounted on my HAV..... which means I lose 1 repper and run 1 rep 1 hardener.......I haven't lost a tank do an enemy for weeks now.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9196
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:25:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lol if you thinking killing 4 MLT tanks solo is a challenge.
With AV support like he had I have no doubt he could have faced down twice that number. Give him gunners and he could have reaped and even greater tally.
This example it not wholly a show of the triple rep tanks strength. He had Swarm support, and took them by surprise, out playing them.
I doubt many tankers worth their salt just rush enemy HAV head on. Sometimes blitzing them works well too. At least with damage modded proto missiles. But that's against armor tanks. I stalk shield tanks and wait for their hardeners to come offline. But yeah he wasn't even soloing them. He had AV support and engaged them one at a time. Also they just simply sucked.
Doesn't matter if he solo'ed them or not.
I know the feeling of busting 4+ tanks within the space of 3 mins...its glorious.....and to his squad that must have been a pretty badass feeling.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1983
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:04:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Can't put a stacking penalty on intelligence. No its op, multiple tanks were shooting him at once Tanks are super op still All I need to do is activate my NOS and that renders tanks unable to hit me. Multiple tanks at that.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1983
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:08:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Read who im quoting Still gives him no right to easily I win against multiple tanks shooting him at once......stuff should give you an advantage, not I win, like the scr Sounds like no matter what anyone says, you'll present any lame argument to prove you and your point correct, even when people say those 4 tanks were each individual battles, instead of a real 4 v 1. I've had 2 v 1s and 3 v 1s, and they make my heart race and usually scare the crap out of me if even one of them knows what they're doing. I know right now I'd never be able to survive a 4 v 1, unless it's FW or PC, in which case positioning means everything.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1983
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
I doubt many tankers worth their salt just rush enemy HAV head on.
Sometimes that's exactly what's needed.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1983
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:16:00 -
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Jakar Umbra wrote:Reps need to be active again with serious fitting requirements. lolwut
Infantry like you forced the changes on to CCP. They then did what they decided best for the vehicle play as a whole. Why don't you like the outcome of what you forced on CCP?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1983
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Harpyja wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lol if you thinking killing 4 MLT tanks solo is a challenge.
With AV support like he had I have no doubt he could have faced down twice that number. Give him gunners and he could have reaped and even greater tally.
This example it not wholly a show of the triple rep tanks strength. He had Swarm support, and took them by surprise, out playing them.
I doubt many tankers worth their salt just rush enemy HAV head on. Sometimes blitzing them works well too. At least with damage modded proto missiles. But that's against armor tanks. I stalk shield tanks and wait for their hardeners to come offline. But yeah he wasn't even soloing them. He had AV support and engaged them one at a time. Also they just simply sucked. Doesn't matter if he solo'ed them or not. I know the feeling of busting 4+ tanks within the space of 3 mins...its glorious.....and to his squad that must have been a pretty badass feeling. I've taken on and destroyed 7 in about 5 minutes, including missile tanks. Not sure how the reds felt about that.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2560
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:28:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Sounds like no matter what anyone says, you'll present any lame argument to prove you and your point correct, even when people say those 4 tanks were each individual battles, instead of a real 4 v 1. I've had 2 v 1s and 3 v 1s, and they make my heart race and usually scare the crap out of me if even one of them knows what they're doing. I know right now I'd never be able to survive a 4 v 1, unless it's FW or PC, in which case positioning means everything.
I once inadvertently ran into five (5) enemy blaster tanks at the same time. I had picked a triple hardened particle cannon; I wasn't planning on getting out of the tank for the rest of the match and I was the only AV for my squad, so durability was key.
I'd just seen a red neutron Maddy tearing up my team, so I figured it was time to play ball. I pulled my tank, drove down the (Fractured) road and spotted him coming around the corner. Followed by four other tanks. My triple hardeners saved me for about five seconds.
I actively avoid 2v1s because they can rapidly turn sour.
jerrmy, you clearly don't know anything about anything.
His passive-tanked fit means he's at 100% (or near enough) at the beginning of each engagement, and the fact that those tanks all attacked him separately means they never stood a chance.
The way he overheated twice against those tanks suggests to me the reason he won was the fact that all those fights were indeed 2v1s - him and his swarm vs a single red tank.
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Harpyja wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:A good player in a starter fit can kill any proto suit. But apparently people seem to think that a fully fitted tank should be all but immortal. When I hear you people talk about balance it makes me a little less disdainful of CCP's bad balancing. A good player in a proto suit is near invincible. Double standards much? You're fine with letting good players actually be near invincible in full proto but fear the same with tanks.
I ADS, I wouldn't mind being a little more armored at proto level.
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