It seems disproportionately expensive for Logistics players to run true support fittings these days. By comparison, similarly tiered Assaults, Heavies and Scouts all cost less to configure.

CCP, please do us LogiBros a solid and knock down the prices of our support gear by 10% or so. We deserve to profit like every other merc.

No, end. (Old logi.)

Logi suits (And equipements) creates WAY MORE WP than all other class.
Nanohives, triage etcetc gives al ot of WP, giving more iSK, totally Balanced.

That guy might have a point. The higher your position on the WP end-of-match board, the more ISK you make, so the price may already be balanced by WP and ISK earning potential of logis. Not really sure though, but I'm inclined to agree.

Not to mention, logis should die less than any other suit, as they aren't front line, they are support.

No, end. (Old logi.)

Logi suits (And equipements) creates WAY MORE WP than all other class.
Nanohives, triage etcetc gives al ot of WP, giving more iSK, totally Balanced.

Not to mention, logis should die less than any other suit, as they aren't front line, they are support.

That guy might have a point. The higher your position on the WP end-of-match board, the more ISK you make, so the price may already be balanced by WP and ISK earning potential of logis. Not really sure though, but I'm inclined to agree.

It seems disproportionately expensive for Logistics players to run true support fittings these days. By comparison, similarly tiered Assaults, Heavies and Scouts all cost less to configure.

CCP, please do us LogiBros a solid and knock down the prices of our support gear by 10% or so. We deserve to profit like every other merc.

read my signature : /

I'm going to tax players for using my equipment.

the price should be lowered all equipment should be priced the same throughout all types.

if i lose 2 logis suits in any match and i'm in negative income. and these days all our equipment is so poor we can't afford to drop it on a whim so most of the time we die with it un deployed meaning isk/wp is lower.

at the same time i can earn just as much wp with my scout or my heavy and be able to die 10-20 time more and still leave with a profit.

It seems disproportionately expensive for Logistics players to run true support fittings these days. By comparison, similarly tiered Assaults, Heavies and Scouts all cost less to configure.

CCP, please do us LogiBros a solid and knock down the prices of our support gear by 10% or so. We deserve to profit like every other merc.

The solution to this problem is a little more complex.

First we have an incomplete WP reward system that favors equipment use over other actions such as killing or preventing hacks.
What this is doing is making logi's have an advantage in WP accrual compared to other suits which I do not feel is balanced.

So what this means is that we need to come up with a list of actions that can reward WP (that are not exploitable). Once this has been balanced to give all roles an equal chance at gaining WP we can begin to talk about re-balancing equipment cost to be more profitable.

No, end. (Old logi.)

Logi suits (And equipements) creates WAY MORE WP than all other class.
Nanohives, triage etcetc gives al ot of WP, giving more iSK, totally Balanced.

I'm a full Logibro as well. The problem you face is one that many people face.

You are running fits that you can't support based on your number of deaths to suit cost.

Use LP gear. Do more Faction Warfare, run slightly cheaper variations on your current suits.

I run Advanced fits and profit. And LP Proto suits (which cost the same as my advanced fits from a suit cost perspective.)

In truth, the biggest issue I face is trying to (stupidly) run LogiBro suits solo in Pub matches. I do quite well running with an organized squad. (PVE would certainly address this issue for those times I don't want to bother coordinating a squad.)

My original comment was regarding similarly tiered suits geared for their original roles - ie an Advanced Assault suit geared for front line work, an Advanced Scout suit geared for recon/flanking, etc. It seems that an Advanced Logi suit geared for healing/support costs more to configure. (However, considering LP gear is a good suggestion.)

Trying to run a logibro fit in a pub match when running solo is an exercise in burning your wallet.

Consider running "logi-lite" (e.g. Medic suit with the injector replaced with a repper or uplink) use the standard logi suit for pubs and militia plates etc. use the militia repper etc. you should be able to make a fit for under 5k. (I call those my "goodwill" suits... GoodWill being a local place to get secondhand/cheap clothes.)

Not to mention, logis should die less than any other suit, as they aren't front line, they are support.

I'm close to that but not quite THAT bad I run an advanced logi suit (for the 3 equipment slots), with basic armor, armor repair, 2 or 3 shield repair, a standard combat rifle, and basic or militia drop uplinks, nanohives, and nanite injectors. The whole fitting to replace it is like 19,000 isk vs. my main proto logi suit which runs about 139,000 k (I did a cost compairison about a week ago). (I'm stealing your "Goodwill" suit nickname, by the way. That is great). So running my Goodwill suit, even in a "bad" match, I am earning about 150,000...... So I can "afford" to die 7 times in that match and still come away with profit. I die more but it is less expensive. I'm also still getting the almighty SP which is what I care about more, anyways. I look at it as a positive to be honest. It makes me focus on tactics, situational awareness, etc. and my gun game has to be better so in a 1 on 1 I at least stand a chance. My aiming/strafing better be on point or I'm going to get taken to the woodshed. Running my main suit I get lazy and give too much weight to the suit/fittings instead of personal skill.

Because of that, I only break that out when I'm going to be running with a group of people who know what the hell they are doing. I'm not going to burn through that expensive a suit in a pub match.

Ran an ADV injector on my ADV scout with a shotty and went 33/1 with 3500 WP. Logistics aren't the only role in the game capable of using equipment

No, end. (Old logi.)

Logi suits (And equipements) creates WAY MORE WP than all other class.
Nanohives, triage etcetc gives al ot of WP, giving more iSK, totally Balanced.

The solution to this problem is a little more complex.

First we have an incomplete WP reward system that favors equipment use over other actions such as killing or preventing hacks.
What this is doing is making logi's have an advantage in WP accrual compared to other suits which I do not feel is balanced.

So what this means is that we need to come up with a list of actions that can reward WP (that are not exploitable). Once this has been balanced to give all roles an equal chance at gaining WP we can begin to talk about re-balancing equipment cost to be more profitable.

Long time MinLogi, since open beta. While I wouldn't complain about an equipment cost adjustment, a lot of what I'm reading here sounds like folks still learning the logi ropes, and folks still learning the DUST514 profitability ropes. Combat logistics isn't for everyone, its WORK to do it effectively at all and takes a deeper understanding of the relevant skill trees to be able to build worthwhile fits.
Most often ignored in the rush to get proto this or that is the Core Skills which boost all your suits' base stats. Stats like higher base armor and sheild increase your survivability, while the ones that raise CPU and PG will allow you to fit a piece of high-level (expensive) gear on a low level (cheap) suit, reducing potential financial losses.
The financial loss element is integral to the DUST gameplay experience, and learning to balance it is just part of the game. "Do not use what you can't afford to lose" is the mantra and the best way I've found is to have the cheapest fits possible be some of your best performing fits possible. For example my STARTER MEDIC has a repper, a MD and an SMG. Its about 12k and nets me huge WP gains consistently with an almost negligible ISK investment. I can die 15x in that suit and still be profitable by a large margin usually. This though only due to the basic stats being increased by CoreSkill investment and my ability to WORK when work is what needs to be done.