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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:29:00 -
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When everyone figures out what the hell they're doing, and start scanning you all down before you get close enough to shotgun.
I just got in an argument with a couple of corp mates who are too dimwitted to realize they are playing a ROLE PLAYING SHOOTER and you can't just run around, aiming the trigger at things and expect to be invulnerable without USING YOUR BRAIN instead of your balls.
Gallente scout, who will remain unnamed, is a brick tanked scout. He refuses to listen when I say all you have to do is take ONE of those armor plates off, put a profile dampener on, and when he's cloaked nothing in this game can scan him.
It was like trying to educate a Christian about science. They just don't have the mental capacity to comprehend it.
It's okay though. Because when people start to figure out that the way to counter FOTM brick tanked scouts is to RUN GOOD SCANS, your little WIN BUTTON CLOAK isn't going to be good for anything until you figure out why you're all being so stupid.
Hell, I might even skill into Caldari Scout with max precision enhancers just to PROVE EVERYONE WRONG.
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noobsniper the 2nd
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
362
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:33:00 -
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Silly scouts lol.. Only the true ones will survive
"things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
414
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:34:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:When everyone figures out what the hell they're doing, and start scanning you all down before you get close enough to shotgun.
I just got in an argument with a couple of corp mates who are too dimwitted to realize they are playing a ROLE PLAYING SHOOTER and you can't just run around, aiming the trigger at things and expect to be invulnerable without USING YOUR BRAIN instead of your balls.
Gallente scout, who will remain unnamed, is a brick tanked scout. He refuses to listen when I say all you have to do is take ONE of those armor plates off, put a profile dampener on, and when he's cloaked nothing in this game can scan him.
It was like trying to educate a Christian about science. They just don't have the mental capacity to comprehend it.
It's okay though. Because when people start to figure out that the way to counter FOTM brick tanked scouts is to RUN GOOD SCANS, your little WIN BUTTON CLOAK isn't going to be good for anything until you figure out why you're all being so stupid.
Hell, I might even skill into Caldari Scout with max precision enhancers just to PROVE EVERYONE WRONG.
The problem is only proto scans catch most scouts, with or without profile damps or cloaks. |
Spectre-M
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
371
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:34:00 -
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A complex dampener is essential on any scout. The active cloak gives an extra 25% on top of it.
Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist
Minnmatar in Amarr Armor
I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
628
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:40:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:The problem is only proto scans catch most scouts, with or without profile damps or cloaks.
No. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvYSJ6FRJlihdHRWMFFxUDVPbzZPVTdjZmNwR2loYXc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
A maxed out Gallente Logi focused scanner is about the same as a maxed out Caldari Scout with 4 precision enhancers.
At the cost of being a FOTM speedy brick, it will scan all of the other careless scouts who won't bother with dampeners instead. And every scout but the Gallente will REALLY have to try hard not to be scanned.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
815
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:59:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:When everyone figures out what the hell they're doing, and start scanning you all down before you get close enough to shotgun.
I just got in an argument with a couple of corp mates who are too dimwitted to realize they are playing a ROLE PLAYING SHOOTER and you can't just run around, aiming the trigger at things and expect to be invulnerable without USING YOUR BRAIN instead of your balls.
Gallente scout, who will remain unnamed, is a brick tanked scout. He refuses to listen when I say all you have to do is take ONE of those armor plates off, put a profile dampener on, and when he's cloaked nothing in this game can scan him.
It was like trying to educate a Christian about science. They just don't have the mental capacity to comprehend it.
It's okay though. Because when people start to figure out that the way to counter FOTM brick tanked scouts is to RUN GOOD SCANS, your little WIN BUTTON CLOAK isn't going to be good for anything until you figure out why you're all being so stupid.
Hell, I might even skill into Caldari Scout with max precision enhancers just to PROVE EVERYONE WRONG. Exept you wont have enough hp to counter them unkeas you ahoot them first with a ahoty if you sont run extenders...
Closed beta vet
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
415
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:59:00 -
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For non gallente logi's there's only one scanner that hits gallente scouts with damps, and only proto scanners that hit uncloaked non-gallente scouts.
Scanners need to be buffed, or profile, damps and cloaks need to be nerfed. As it is damps almost always beat scans. |
Echo 1991
WarRavens League of Infamy
171
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:59:00 -
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Didnt realise we were all using gal logis. If only we had known sooner. |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
979
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:59:00 -
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I honestly doubt I will be scanned as I am usually behind the redberries lighting em up with mah ELM-7 and since you cant 360 anymore I'm sure they are more concerned with whats in front of them. Much to their detriment of course
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando III Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
127
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:00:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:When everyone figures out what the hell they're doing, and start scanning you all down before you get close enough to shotgun.
I just got in an argument with a couple of corp mates who are too dimwitted to realize they are playing a ROLE PLAYING SHOOTER and you can't just run around, aiming the trigger at things and expect to be invulnerable without USING YOUR BRAIN instead of your balls.
Gallente scout, who will remain unnamed, is a brick tanked scout. He refuses to listen when I say all you have to do is take ONE of those armor plates off, put a profile dampener on, and when he's cloaked nothing in this game can scan him.
It was like trying to educate a Christian about science. They just don't have the mental capacity to comprehend it.
It's okay though. Because when people start to figure out that the way to counter FOTM brick tanked scouts is to RUN GOOD SCANS, your little WIN BUTTON CLOAK isn't going to be good for anything until you figure out why you're all being so stupid.
Hell, I might even skill into Caldari Scout with max precision enhancers just to PROVE EVERYONE WRONG.
People can also keep a lookout for spoopy blue ghosts, that's what I always do. And if they aren't moving spoopy blue ghosts, well they aren't really helping there team then either. |
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
629
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:03:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Exept you wont have enough hp to counter them unkeas you ahoot them first with a ahoty if you sont run extenders...
You are already countering them by scanning them. Your squad, which should consist of at least one heavy, should be able to take care of it.
Before posting in this thread please take the time to realize I'm not talking about pub matches here.
In a PC, against a team with a Gal Logi or Cal Scout or two, using a cloak without dampeners will be stupid. Like bringing a GEK instead of a Duvolle.
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
990
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:05:00 -
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Shhhhhh... don't tell them that. It will only make it harder to kill(in 1 or 2 shotgun blast) the brick tankers with my ewar Scout. I can seeeeeeeee yoouuuuuu!!! |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
629
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:06:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:People can also keep a lookout for spoopy blue ghosts, that's what I always do. And if they aren't moving spoopy blue ghosts, well they aren't really helping there team then either.
Do you realize how many dead heavies from shotguns to the back this will prevent?
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Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:12:00 -
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Being a medium frame user, I feel like I almost have to run scout these days.
At least if I don't want to get shotgunned in the back all match.
Or if I want to have a chance at seeing the enemy which is almost certainly a heavy or shotgun scout these days.
Plus when I'm inevitably being stomped, being able to cloak and run away is helpful. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
815
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:12:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Exept you wont have enough hp to counter them unkeas you ahoot them first with a ahoty if you sont run extenders...
You are already countering them by scanning them. Your squad, which should consist of at least one heavy, should be able to take care of it. Before posting in this thread please take the time to realize I'm not talking about pub matches here. In a PC, against a team with a Gal Logi or Cal Scout or two, using a cloak without dampeners will be stupid. Like bringing a GEK instead of a Duvolle. I run tqo damps unkess im told to scan....but in pc oh man if I have voice off and scan I wikl deatroy everyone not in groups
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
631
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:25:00 -
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Taeryn Frost wrote:Being a medium frame user, I feel like I almost have to run scout these days.
At least if I don't want to get shotgunned in the back all match.
Or if I want to have a chance at seeing the enemy which is almost certainly a heavy or shotgun scout these days.
Plus when I'm inevitably being stomped, being able to cloak and run away is helpful.
Hang in there man. The only reason I made the switch from medium to heavy in 1.8 is because they changed Min Logis into something I didn't want to be. It was really hard learning that I couldn't just skill into this suit for the hack speed bonus, then expect to still run around killing things. But it was an important lesson.
I really feel like all Assaults could use an extra high and low slot. With Commandos being chosen over Assault because of the damage bonus, Assault just needs that slight edge right now.
But I think I could still use them. That reload speed bonus on the Caldari is REALLY good for sniping. Also the Minmatar clip size bonus is DEADLY. I'm an Amarr Sentinel and I'm supposed to be soaking up his combat rifle like it's nothing... and that clip size he had almost got me killed. We were both in full proto. He might have got me if it wasn't for a blueberry coming to the rescue.
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
981
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:30:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Taeryn Frost wrote:Being a medium frame user, I feel like I almost have to run scout these days.
At least if I don't want to get shotgunned in the back all match.
Or if I want to have a chance at seeing the enemy which is almost certainly a heavy or shotgun scout these days.
Plus when I'm inevitably being stomped, being able to cloak and run away is helpful. Hang in there man. The only reason I made the switch from medium to heavy in 1.8 is because they changed Min Logis into something I didn't want to be. It was really hard learning that I couldn't just skill into this suit for the hack speed bonus, then expect to still run around killing things. But it was an important lesson. I really feel like all Assaults could use an extra high and low slot. With Commandos being chosen over Assault because of the damage bonus, Assault just needs that slight edge right now. But I think I could still use them. That reload speed bonus on the Caldari is REALLY good for sniping. Also the Minmatar clip size bonus is DEADLY. I'm an Amarr Sentinel and I'm supposed to be soaking up his combat rifle like it's nothing... and that clip size he had almost got me killed. We were both in full proto. He might have got me if it wasn't for a blueberry coming to the rescue. Not just the minmatar or caldari assaults. Amarr assault with a LR is SCARY that heat up reduction will rip even armor suits a new one at the peak of heat up
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando III Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Aria Gomes
R 0 N 1 N
350
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:32:00 -
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Spectre-M wrote:A complex dampener is essential on any scout. The active cloak gives an extra 25% on top of it.
Meh Damp to 4 is good enough to passively get below basic and adv. Complex is only necessary for proto scanners and gallogis. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
631
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:33:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Not just the minmatar or caldari assaults. Amarr assault with a LR is SCARY that heat up reduction will rip even armor suits a new one at the peak of heat up
I'm still testing out the Gallente Assault bonus to SG dispersion... which hopefully equates to BETTER RANGE.
I still remember testing out the Militia SG when I was a newberry and hating it. It's not even a shotgun, more like a shrapnel cannon.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
654
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:33:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Keep in mind I am not talking about pub matches - well, except the proto stomping kind
When everyone figures out what the hell they're doing, and start scanning you all down before you get close enough to shotgun, you FOTM scouts are going to learn the hard way.
I just got in an argument with a couple of corp mates who are too dimwitted to realize they are playing a ROLE PLAYING SHOOTER and you can't just run around, aiming the trigger at things and expect to be invulnerable without USING YOUR BRAIN instead of your balls.
Gallente scout, who will remain unnamed, is a brick tanked scout. He refuses to listen when I say all you have to do is take ONE of those armor plates off, put a profile dampener on, and when he's cloaked nothing in this game can scan him.
It was like trying to educate a Christian about science. They just don't have the mental capacity to comprehend it.
It's okay though. Because when people start to figure out that the way to counter FOTM brick tanked scouts is to RUN GOOD SCANS, your little WIN BUTTON CLOAK isn't going to be good for anything until you figure out why you're all being so stupid.
Hell, I might even skill into Caldari Scout with max precision enhancers just to PROVE EVERYONE WRONG. I've lost all respect for you.
I game over like a boss.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
631
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:35:00 -
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Meee One wrote: I've lost all respect for you.
Bahahaha I'm sorry dude, I forget sometimes to keep those comments to myself. I'll edit that out of the post
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ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
412
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:36:00 -
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Meee One wrote:bamboo x wrote:Keep in mind I am not talking about pub matches - well, except the proto stomping kind
When everyone figures out what the hell they're doing, and start scanning you all down before you get close enough to shotgun, you FOTM scouts are going to learn the hard way.
I just got in an argument with a couple of corp mates who are too dimwitted to realize they are playing a ROLE PLAYING SHOOTER and you can't just run around, aiming the trigger at things and expect to be invulnerable without USING YOUR BRAIN instead of your balls.
Gallente scout, who will remain unnamed, is a brick tanked scout. He refuses to listen when I say all you have to do is take ONE of those armor plates off, put a profile dampener on, and when he's cloaked nothing in this game can scan him.
It was like trying to educate a Christian about science. They just don't have the mental capacity to comprehend it.
It's okay though. Because when people start to figure out that the way to counter FOTM brick tanked scouts is to RUN GOOD SCANS, your little WIN BUTTON CLOAK isn't going to be good for anything until you figure out why you're all being so stupid.
Hell, I might even skill into Caldari Scout with max precision enhancers just to PROVE EVERYONE WRONG. I've lost all respect for you.
Except he is right. Try visiting the Southern United States sometime. Git R' Done! Yeehaw! |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
631
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:38:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Except he is right. Try visiting the Southern United States sometime. Git R' Done! Yeehaw!
T_T look guys I didn't mean to offend anybody I just really want to be a paleontologist and people who bash evolutionary theory without even considering proven facts... ugh it makes me sick to think about it
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ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
413
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:42:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Except he is right. Try visiting the Southern United States sometime. Git R' Done! Yeehaw! T_T look guys I didn't mean to offend anybody I just really want to be a paleontologist and people who bash evolutionary theory without even considering proven facts... ugh it makes me sick to think about it
But... but... Jesus riding a dinosaur! Whoooooooooooo yea!! Rid'em cowboy!
(yup i'm probably banned now - lmao) |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
7747
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:43:00 -
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Armor tanking scouts. Lolz
No point in armor tanking if your scout can be seen. If they still want to tank, it doesn't hurt to fit one shield extender and use the low slots for at least one dampener or two and maybe some kin cats and cardiac regulators. So far that fit has helped me in the long run. The shield extender however is only to help me escape quickly if I get seen.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
129
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:44:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Except he is right. Try visiting the Southern United States sometime. Git R' Done! Yeehaw! T_T look guys I didn't mean to offend anybody I just really want to be a paleontologist and people who bash evolutionary theory without even considering proven facts... ugh it makes me sick to think about it
But god made the earth in 4000 years therefore you are wrong, my book recorded by sheep herders who used said book to elevate their position in the world says so!!! Get on my transcendental level noob! You just don't get it, it's just 2deep4u.
It's not like there is a laundry list of secular benefits to mah beliefs that would lead people to lie about that ****, come on now!
People will at the end of the day believe what they will and honestly none of us can really prove anything wrong. We can always claim invisible forces and what not. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
634
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:48:00 -
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
655
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Posted - 2014.04.01 07:03:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Meee One wrote:bamboo x wrote:Keep in mind I am not talking about pub matches - well, except the proto stomping kind
When everyone figures out what the hell they're doing, and start scanning you all down before you get close enough to shotgun, you FOTM scouts are going to learn the hard way.
I just got in an argument with a couple of corp mates who are too dimwitted to realize they are playing a ROLE PLAYING SHOOTER and you can't just run around, aiming the trigger at things and expect to be invulnerable without USING YOUR BRAIN instead of your balls.
Gallente scout, who will remain unnamed, is a brick tanked scout. He refuses to listen when I say all you have to do is take ONE of those armor plates off, put a profile dampener on, and when he's cloaked nothing in this game can scan him.
It was like trying to educate a Christian about science. They just don't have the mental capacity to comprehend it.
It's okay though. Because when people start to figure out that the way to counter FOTM brick tanked scouts is to RUN GOOD SCANS, your little WIN BUTTON CLOAK isn't going to be good for anything until you figure out why you're all being so stupid.
Hell, I might even skill into Caldari Scout with max precision enhancers just to PROVE EVERYONE WRONG. I've lost all respect for you. Except he is right. Try visiting the Southern United States sometime. Git R' Done! Yeehaw! Well,considering the fact i live in tennessee i would assume that you my good sir are incorrect.
John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2508
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Posted - 2014.04.01 07:04:00 -
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I like to stick with my squad mates, use my eyes and shoot them.
Also, OP, for your joke about Christians, you can go fuck yourself.
ak.0 4 LYFE
CCP GIB LANCE TURRET PLOX
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
821
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Posted - 2014.04.01 07:07:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I like to stick with my squad mates, use my eyes and shoot them.
Also, OP, for your joke about Christians, you can go fuck yourself. You sound just like the guy at wallmart...
Closed beta vet
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