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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:13:00 -
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Nerfing the cloak duration would all but destroy my LR flanking strategy. It takes time to set up a good flanking position time the cloak gives me. without a cloak i would literally be useless to my team for 25 percent of the match as i would have to go so far out of my way to not get spotted early that by the time i got in position the front would have changed and would need to find a new spot and so on. Plus nerfing the duration would do nothing for the (supposed) real problem of SG scouts as they dont need a lot of time to be cloaked to sneak up on people.
edited for derpy word use
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando III Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:24:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:The Eristic wrote:Man, that guy ^ REALLY hates cloaks. A novella in every thread. In all honesty i love cloaks. I use a cloak in all three of my scout characters on each of their 3 builds. Cloaks add to my enjoyment, they make my gameplay better, they cover my mistakes so i die less and make more ISK. They are a mandatory equipment, and they are so much fun and they also make things like crossing open spaces take less time and require less thought. I'm not being sarcastic. I like my cloak, it helps me, its makes for better scores but in no way is it required/necessary or hpshouls be in game. It's an easy mode/crutch for when i make poor decisions. I am just trying to be objective. There nothing wrong with me going 20-2 proto stomping noobs, its fun, it's mostly enjoyable and its good SP/ISK and k/d rewards.. But in no way should my 17m SP char be matched up against my two 3m SP chars, but that's how things go. That's why the two things that make me mad are the terrible non-tier skill based matchmaking and these easy mode cloaks.
Nothin personal be there is really only one subset of scouts "abusing" cloak and that would be the SG scout. Those of us who don't run SG actually need it. I run LR scout and the cloak lets me get into a rear flanking position to confuse the enemy and assassinate what I think are key targets. Without the cloak I would have to waste most of the match trying to get into said flanking position.
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando III Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.04.01 06:41:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cotsy8 wrote:The Eristic wrote:Man, that guy ^ REALLY hates cloaks. A novella in every thread. In all honesty i love cloaks. I use a cloak in all three of my scout characters on each of their 3 builds. Cloaks add to my enjoyment, they make my gameplay better, they cover my mistakes so i die less and make more ISK. They are a mandatory equipment, and they are so much fun and they also make things like crossing open spaces take less time and require less thought. I'm not being sarcastic. I like my cloak, it helps me, its makes for better scores but in no way is it required/necessary or hpshouls be in game. It's an easy mode/crutch for when i make poor decisions. I am just trying to be objective. There nothing wrong with me going 20-2 proto stomping noobs, its fun, it's mostly enjoyable and its good SP/ISK and k/d rewards.. But in no way should my 17m SP char be matched up against my two 3m SP chars, but that's how things go. That's why the two things that make me mad are the terrible non-tier skill based matchmaking and these easy mode cloaks. Nothin personal be there is really only one subset of scouts "abusing" cloak and that would be the SG scout. Those of us who don't run SG actually need it. I run LR scout and the cloak lets me get into a rear flanking position to confuse the enemy and assassinate what I think are key targets. Without the cloak I would have to waste most of the match trying to get into said flanking position. Anyone who used a cloaks abuses the benefits it provides. There is nothing wrong with SG, bricked tanks, speed scouts, stealth scouts there is something wrong with cloaks. People like to argue get good and shoot them, how about you get good and stop relying on your crutch for your scores. I saw your 1.7 scores, they sucked.. You didn't get good overnight, oh thats right you got a cloak.
LOL first of all I wanna know where you got my stats as it would be neat to not be ingame to see em. Second of all you seem awfully butthurt about the cloaks. I simply said I don't wanna have to hug the red line to flank with my scout. But you know what you keep being a bitter little sh*t who doesn't know how to adapt to a constantly changing game and I'll keep on enjoying my cloaking Amarr LR scout 
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando III Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.04.01 07:00:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:CLOAKS are ok, everyone saying they are EZ mode, OP whatever are just salty they cannot see that 300-400HP player running from a mile away.,Its just sad you truly want to take this away from scouts.
''OMG you can switch weapons and shoot while cloaked?''
This is an exaggeration.IF you WATCH someone cloaked RUNNING towards you you will notice:While switching weapons the cloak already starts to fade, and not only while moving YOU ARE VISIBLE, but while switching weapons parts of your body will reveal BEFORE even being able to shoot.Sure not complete visibility,but still visible.
Some people say this above, is the main issue: Sure then fix it, As soon as you PRESS the change to weapon button the cloak fades COMPLETELY. In exchange swapping speed from Cloak-to-weapon should be at least 50% faster.
THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE NERF WOULD BE, IN MY HONEST opinion=
A duration nerf.
They last way too long.
I think cloaks should have a duration reduction next to a recharge buff, something like this:
STD: 15 Secs Duration 10 secs recharge
ADV: 25 Secs Duration 15 Secs Charge
Proto: 35 Secs Duration 15 Secs Charge
This way the player will have to truly manage the cloak vs Recharge time in a smart way and still get the most out of it.
AGAIN ,i AM NOT PROPOSING A NERF for the Cloaking devices. Me myself find them ok. Would be OP if while standing still i get to be 100% invisible but since its not the case and one can be seen with a little caution(and while sprinting you need to be blind to not see a cloaked enemy) , they are not.
opinions? Cloaks should make your scan profile larger, not smaller. Ok so basically, there should be a trade-off. You fit plates, you loose speed, you fit shields, you loose shield delay, you equip a cloak....... well there is only upside to fitting a cloak.
Where is the trade off for ALL THE OTHER EQUIPMENT!
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando III Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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