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ResistanceGTA wrote:

I think you're selling the Gallente short here/over selling the Amarr. Having the exact same layout, the Gallente can be a 'better' hacker (as it will have armor rep and greater speed), speed turtle (as it is naturally faster) and can be the exact same when it comes to scanner and dampening capabilities. The only one the Gallente doesn't best the Amarr on is pure tank, but, it can give it a run for its money (built in minimal rep can make a huge difference).

However, at Basic, the Amarr does have more versatility, which can be handy when you're trying to run on the cheap.

We really need to make these suits different.

Denesian Morenti wrote:

Nice run down. I stuck with the Amar Commando and have it fitted with a assault scrambler rifle and an advanced mass driver. Works real well, but you have to stay with a group or your toast! I have found that if I embed myself with a sentinel and logi, its a hard team to bring down.

Add a Scout to that group and you can become near unstoppable. The Commando and Heavy taking the brunt of the damage and dealing it back out, the Logi keeping them alive, and the Scout stealing an objective during the commotion. Its a brutal combo.

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Supacharjed Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.03.31 13:51:00 - [1] - Quote The new Commando suits give to the local mercs, a much needed edge; Raw and absolute firepower. But I see some mercs not appreciating the full value of their shiny new suits. This, is my message and guide (KEYWORD THERE) to the new and powerful Commando Suits. The Minmatar Commando Standard: 1 High 1 Low Advanced: 2 High 1 Low Proto: 2 High 2 Low. The Minmatar Commando is the fastest Commando suit by far. It's inherent Speed and Stamina recharge rate are ideal for hit and run tactics. Armed with an Assault Combat Rifle and a Mass Driver, the Minmatar Commando is used to move from objective to objective, clearing enemies for the team to move up. It can also be used to flank enemies already tied up in a firefight. It's bonuses to the Mass Driver allows even glancing hits to scare all but the toughest (or stupidest) Mercenaries. The Minmatar Commando benefits greatly from damage mods and sprint boosters. Armour repairers and shield rechargers allow the Minmatar Commando to keep himself fighting fit for the next engagement. Drop Uplinks are ideal for this constantly mobile Commando suit, allowing for much needed troop support on certain objectives. The Minmatar has inherent weaknesses in it's EHP, whilst it isn't terribly bad, it doesn't shine either. Ferroscale Armour Plates can help alleviate this problem whilst keeping the suits mobility.(Granted, the low slots can be used for better things) This Suit's strength, like all Minmatar designs, lies within it's speed. Keep yourself moving, and keep yourself alive. The Gallente Commando Standard: 0 High 2 Low Avdanced: 1 High 2 Low Proto: 1 High 3 Low The Gallente Commando was built to brawl. It's bonuses to the Shotgun and the Assault Rifle give it unmatched close range capabilities. It's armour, while not the highest, is capable of withstanding a lot of punishment. The Gallente Commando is sent to the objectives when there are enemy Mercs in need of an ass kicking. The Shotgun has unparalleled one-shot capabilities. The Assault rifle is used for handling reds and medium ranges. Gallente Commandos benefit greatly from Armour plating. Three armour plates give the Gallente Commando the tank he needs to wipe enemies from the face of the planet. The high slot (On Adv and Proto) can be filled with a damage mod for even more firepower. A lone Gallente can be either easy prey, or the enemy's worse nightmare. Lacking in Armor repair, the Gallente can become weak after sustained firefights. Luckily, this can be remedied with the use of a quick replacement of a plate with an armour repairer. A good backup Logi, a Triage Nanohive or a cloak can fix the problem as well. The Caldari Commando Standard: 2 High 0 Low Advanced: 2 High 1 Low Proto: 3 High 1 Low The Caldari Commando does what the Caldari do best. Neutralising targets from as far away as possible. The Caldari Commando suit utilises the Rail Rifle and the Sniper rifle to deal massive damage form afar. The Caldari Commando sports great versatility, being able to engage in frontline combat with its Rail Rifle and long range combat with its sniper rifle. It's many high slots allow it to fit many shield based modules, as well as damage mods if you are so well inclined. As previously stated, the Caldari has unmatched shield capability. It's many high slots can keep it going for quite some time. The single low slot can be filled with either an Armour repairer or a CPU upgrade for added potential. The Caldari excels at range, but may be at a disadvantage at the close ranges. Shield hardeners may help and a damage mod (how original) will help it drop enemies faster. A cloak is also idea for more close range engagements as well as helping the Caldari Commando to move freely. The Amarr Commando Standard: 1 High 1 Low Advanced: 1 High 2 Low Proto: 1 High 3 Low The Amarr Commando is built like a brick. Slow moving, but willing to take all kinds of torture thrown at it. The issue is, the weapons it gets bonuses too aren't exactly helping it. BUT, what the Amarr Commando lacks in specialism, it makes up in being versatile in its low slots. It's roles include: Ultra Brick tanking (Plates) Speed Turtling (Speed Boosts and Stamina Upgrades) Hacker (Hack Upgrades) Scanner (Range Amps and Precision Amps) (Granted, this just helps you) Sneaky Ninja (Profile Dampener and Cloak) All in all, the Amarr Commando makes for the most versatile Commando suit. It's Scrambler Rifle used for taking out enemies up close and the Laser Rifle for the Long range. Questions? Comments? Queries? Song of Praise? Leave 'em below. I look forward to all feedback.
Scar Scrilla UN1TED NATIONS Caps and Mercs 209	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:11:00 - [2] - Quote Thanx a lot for this Commando compendium. I used to run a lot of AmarrComm, but gonna switch to Calcomm in a few days... "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" "Go and hack the letter(s)" - Join our public channel: UN1TE
Denesian Morenti The Neutral Zone 14	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:18:00 - [3] - Quote Nice run down. I stuck with the Amar Commando and have it fitted with a assault scrambler rifle and an advanced mass driver. Works real well, but you have to stay with a group or your toast! I have found that if I embed myself with a sentinel and logi, its a hard team to bring down.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 701	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:22:00 - [4] - Quote I think you're selling the Gallente short here/over selling the Amarr. Having the exact same layout, the Gallente can be a 'better' hacker (as it will have armor rep and greater speed), speed turtle (as it is naturally faster) and can be the exact same when it comes to scanner and dampening capabilities. The only one the Gallente doesn't best the Amarr on is pure tank, but, it can give it a run for its money (built in minimal rep can make a huge difference). However, at Basic, the Amarr does have more versatility, which can be handy when you're trying to run on the cheap. We really need to make these suits different. Denesian Morenti wrote: Nice run down. I stuck with the Amar Commando and have it fitted with a assault scrambler rifle and an advanced mass driver. Works real well, but you have to stay with a group or your toast! I have found that if I embed myself with a sentinel and logi, its a hard team to bring down. Add a Scout to that group and you can become near unstoppable. The Commando and Heavy taking the brunt of the damage and dealing it back out, the Logi keeping them alive, and the Scout stealing an objective during the commotion. Its a brutal combo. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Supacharjed Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:30:00 - [5] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: I think you're selling the Gallente short here/over selling the Amarr. Having the exact same layout, the Gallente can be a 'better' hacker (as it will have armor rep and greater speed), speed turtle (as it is naturally faster) and can be the exact same when it comes to scanner and dampening capabilities. The only one the Gallente doesn't best the Amarr on is pure tank, but, it can give it a run for its money (built in minimal rep can make a huge difference). You are indeed correct. The Gallente Suit far exceeds the Amarr Suit. I need to perhaps fix it up a bit.
Denesian Morenti The Neutral Zone 15	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:36:00 - [6] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: I think you're selling the Gallente short here/over selling the Amarr. Having the exact same layout, the Gallente can be a 'better' hacker (as it will have armor rep and greater speed), speed turtle (as it is naturally faster) and can be the exact same when it comes to scanner and dampening capabilities. The only one the Gallente doesn't best the Amarr on is pure tank, but, it can give it a run for its money (built in minimal rep can make a huge difference). However, at Basic, the Amarr does have more versatility, which can be handy when you're trying to run on the cheap. We really need to make these suits different. Denesian Morenti wrote: Nice run down. I stuck with the Amar Commando and have it fitted with a assault scrambler rifle and an advanced mass driver. Works real well, but you have to stay with a group or your toast! I have found that if I embed myself with a sentinel and logi, its a hard team to bring down. Add a Scout to that group and you can become near unstoppable. The Commando and Heavy taking the brunt of the damage and dealing it back out, the Logi keeping them alive, and the Scout stealing an objective during the commotion. Its a brutal combo. You are right my friend! There are always scouts, just trying to keep them near the group is the hard part.
Denesian Morenti The Neutral Zone 17	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:40:00 - [7] - Quote Supacharjed wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: I think you're selling the Gallente short here/over selling the Amarr. Having the exact same layout, the Gallente can be a 'better' hacker (as it will have armor rep and greater speed), speed turtle (as it is naturally faster) and can be the exact same when it comes to scanner and dampening capabilities. The only one the Gallente doesn't best the Amarr on is pure tank, but, it can give it a run for its money (built in minimal rep can make a huge difference). You are indeed correct. The Gallente Suit far exceeds the Amarr Suit. I need to perhaps fix it up a bit. But I do like the cheap Amar. Mine is set at 28k with these mods GÇó Assault Scramber GÇó Mass Driver (lvl 1) GÇó Enhanced precision -¬ enhanced armor repair
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 340	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:44:00 - [8] - Quote Dual swarm launchers on a minni commando. You get allot of extra damage from the explosive bonus, as well as a nice reload bonus. It allows people to put lots of damage on a target, quickly. I can fire 6 swarms (6*6=36 missiles). Most tanks can't survive six swarms unhardened. Also, it makes isk like crazy. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 534	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:45:00 - [9] - Quote I must say that the Gal commando works a lot better with the PLC than a shotgun. I find the slow speed means by the time you get close to anyone to shoot them, you're already dead. I'd much rather put a shotgun on a scout or go HMG heavy for CQC brawling. The PLC works really well on a gal commando as the reload and damage bonuses are really useful and you can swap out to another light weapon and sweep up whatever you missed easier than if you only had a sidearm. It can function well as both an AV (especially if against shield tanks) and an anti-infantry fit. We want cake and tea.
Spike Slania CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 13	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:50:00 - [10] - Quote I like the dual wielding Swarm Launchers I'm not too far from you, I can't wait to see you, again and again

The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 280	Posted - 2014.03.31 14:58:00 - [11] - Quote Why does everyone think that 0.2 m/sec makes one suit so much faster than another? I also dont see how a slow gallante commando can get so close to someone to be able to use a Shotgun. And finally why does everyone also think that 50 hp is such an advantage?
GILDENLOCK Pradox One Proficiency V. 28	Posted - 2014.03.31 15:36:00 - [12] - Quote Mislick pls ignore
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 535	Posted - 2014.03.31 15:47:00 - [13] - Quote GILDENLOCK wrote: Is it ever good to build a commando suit that doesn't use the bonuses in both slots? For instance, playing with an amarr laser/shotgun user. It's fine to do that. Any light weapon on any commando will still get the reload bonus and the racial damage bonus isn't really a necessity for most weapons. Though, I'd never use a shotgun on a Commando. They're just too slow to get in range to attack. We want cake and tea.
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4585	Posted - 2014.03.31 15:48:00 - [14] - Quote Don't forget the plasma cannon on the gallente commando- the thing wreaks havoc indoors. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1187	Posted - 2014.03.31 15:53:00 - [15] - Quote Put rail rifle with an assault rail rifle on the Calmmando and you'll have better CQC capabilities as well as long and mid range. I think the one buff it could use is a better shield recharge rate and less shield recharge delay. Yes you can do this with modules but with how few you get you have to sacrifice EHP and have no armor repair. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 92	Posted - 2014.03.31 15:59:00 - [16] - Quote GILDENLOCK wrote: Is it ever good to build a commando suit that doesn't use the bonuses in both slots? For instance, playing with an amarr laser/shotgun user. And why don't they give these damn commando suits any grenades? I really, really want a grenade slot on a min command suit. Flux grenade would be an amazing combo with all those explosives. Besides, I think the low number of H/L slots and slow speed already compensate for having higher based HP and two light weapons. Hell, I would take a grenade slot that only had 1 grenade capacity.
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 406	Posted - 2014.03.31 16:14:00 - [17] - Quote +1 Very well said and detailed. Amarr Commando is awesome when combined with LRs and ASRs. Can't wait for my proto suit. Also, I find that depending on the map and your tactics, Calammandos with both variants of RRs (standard and assault) do better than the RR/SnR combo. For Gallente purists, if you find your Galmmando taking the high ground more often, swapping the Shotty for a Plasma Cannon can work wonders. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 2919	Posted - 2014.03.31 16:20:00 - [18] - Quote I love my Gal Commando, but after reading this I wish it were easier to spec or at least try the other suits with a small bonus. I know this is frowned upon, but I've been using a STD Gal with a STD AR and Ion pistol. Works really well actually. I'll drop one of those for a PLC after the event, but for now it's really nice. Edit:just in case you were wondering, with max hp skills I have 312/500 with no mods. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 2519	Posted - 2014.03.31 16:33:00 - [19] - Quote I am really enjoying my Minmatar Commando Repair Logi. The extra mobility and stamina regen is quite nifty. Video: I don't always fight dropships, but when I do...
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 878	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:00:00 - [20] - Quote Commandos are to slow to use shotguns? TIP: let them come to you! Scouts will attack commandos up close allowing for OHK. You could also stand behind a friendly hacker and pop anyone that tries to stop them. Running with an AR as well means that you can continually utilize your range weapon and simply switch out if the enemy gets too close for comfort. Just because you have a shotgun doesn't mean you automatically have to go seeking out the enemy. I'm a scout but my ALT is a G-commando and I destroy anything that comes to close (even proto sentinels and cloaked scouts). The only real problem is that the gallente weapons are anti-shield so going against other Gs or As can be a bit more difficult. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!

Villanor Aquarius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 171	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:12:00 - [21] - Quote Caldari mando with RR and PLC is nice as your recovery is fast you can poke with the PLC. That said I want a rail based light AV weapon or to get rid of this silly limit on type of hybrid weapon.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4143	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:09:00 - [22] - Quote Solid rundown, want to help with the ARC program? :) Fare well my commando's fist of god o7 Patron saint of commandos Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
Supacharjed Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 11	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:24:00 - [23] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Solid rundown, want to help with the ARC program? :) If you need it. I don't claim to be an expert by any means. Diehard Commandbro. Part Time Ninja Turtle Full Time Badass.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4143	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:59:00 - [24] - Quote Supacharjed wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Solid rundown, want to help with the ARC program? :) If you need it. I don't claim to be an expert by any means. don't need to be an expert...just willing to die allot in the name of research :p Do you mind if I link this writeup in the arc program? Fare well my commando's fist of god o7 Patron saint of commandos Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
Supacharjed Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 13	Posted - 2014.04.02 12:06:00 - [25] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Supacharjed wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Solid rundown, want to help with the ARC program? :) If you need it. I don't claim to be an expert by any means. don't need to be an expert...just willing to die allot in the name of research :p Do you mind if I link this writeup in the arc program? I Live and Die for research. I am currently researching with the aim of perfecting the Ninja Turtle. I think you have already linked it. I also give you permission to link any further writeups you see fit. As you may already know, I have sent a corp application. Diehard Commandbro. Part Time Ninja Turtle Full Time Badass.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4143	Posted - 2014.04.02 12:22:00 - [26] - Quote Supacharjed wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Supacharjed wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Solid rundown, want to help with the ARC program? :) If you need it. I don't claim to be an expert by any means. don't need to be an expert...just willing to die allot in the name of research :p Do you mind if I link this writeup in the arc program? I Live and Die for research. I am currently researching with the aim of perfecting the Ninja Turtle. I think you have already linked it. I also give you permission to link any further writeups you see fit. As you may already know, I have sent a corp application. awesome, you'll be accepted as soon as I get on...wich will be later today Fare well my commando's fist of god o7 Patron saint of commandos Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 9321	Posted - 2014.06.11 04:56:00 - [27] - Quote Bumping for my fellow Bromandos. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. -HAND


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