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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.03.31 02:23:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5FonW5CH7E&feature=youtu.be
This was originally supposed to be a video about cloaks on commandos, but shotguns kept killing me so I decided to pull out my sentinel to try and counter them...and what do you know it worked.
I might make a more detailed informational video about the minmatar heavy is people are interested. There's a trick to it...not completely obvious in the video but if you're paying attention you'll probably figure out the strategy.
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:03:00 -
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I enjoyed the video, and the music along with it
I feel like Minmatar suits get dogged on constantly, but if a person can use it correctly; it can be pretty devastating.
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:17:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5FonW5CH7E&feature=youtu.be
This was originally supposed to be a video about cloaks on commandos, but shotguns kept killing me so I decided to pull out my sentinel to try and counter them...and what do you know it worked.
I might make a more detailed informational video about the minmatar heavy is people are interested. There's a trick to it...not completely obvious in the video but if you're paying attention you'll probably figure out the strategy.
Congrats, you trashed a lot of mlt suits, a few heavies and like 3 scouts, quite a few while you were using a cloaked commando which is *just* under the scan precision of anything that isn't a scout or hasn't invested in precision amplification skill (ie, it works on noobs, but not anyone playing the *real* fotm). After switching you continued to kill MLT suits and heavies, and almost no scouts.
Your video proves nothing really other than that you are pretty good at trashing people in free fits. |
Disturbingly Bored
Forum Warfare
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:32:00 -
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Nice Vid. +1
Yep, Burst is fun stuff, allows the Rust Gorilla to punch above its weight against other Sentinels who are using the normal HMG. There are Gallente and Amarr Sentinels using it though, and they'll ruin your day.
Honestly, the thing I see the Minmatar Sentinel being better than any other Sentinel at is at Forge Gun tank hunting.
Being able to get into cover matter more than HP, and the Minny speed matters most for that. You also have the mobility to chase down a fleeing tank and line up that last essential shot to pop it.
Yeah, itGÇÖs kind a narrow use to be GÇ£bestGÇ¥ at. But IGÇÖd take it over a Caldari Sentinel for the job any day.
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neausea 1987
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:33:00 -
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^^ wow bruh butthurt much. anyway I like the video and the fact that you used the burst I want that sooo bad but I have to wait til Monday or Tuesday. if you can make an in depth video. I just started using the heavy and im loving it lol just melting people and fatty on fatty crime is my favorite. im a scout and I love but when you need to clear a room call a fatty.
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:36:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:
This was originally supposed to be a video about cloaks on commandos
Your video proves nothing really
I'll update the OP to make things a bit more clear, but did I say I was trying to prove anything? I've been using this strategy all day and it's been giving me great scores. I just recently went 35/5 against a squad of good players using the same strategy: http://imgur.com/xzQQtEn
Like I stated, this was originally supposed to be a video about cloaks on commandos but it showed some good gameplay of the effectiveness of the fast minmatar heavy.
The point is, the commando sucks when used like this, and proves that it's not the cloaks that are an issue, but the scouts themselves.
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:40:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:
This was originally supposed to be a video about cloaks on commandos
Your video proves nothing really I'll update the OP to make things a bit more clear, but did I say I was trying to prove anything? I've been using this strategy all day and it's been giving me great scores. I just recently went 35/5 against a squad of good players using the same strategy: http://imgur.com/xzQQtEnLike I stated, this was originally supposed to be a video about cloaks on commandos but it showed some good gameplay of the effectiveness of the fast minmatar heavy. The point is, the commando sucks when used like this, and proves that it's not the cloaks that are an issue, but the scouts themselves.
I don't see any good players in that picture. Is the strategy you're referring to cloaked commando's or burst hmg heavies? Because if it's the cloaked commando it demonstrates part of the issue with cloak and shotgun. Scout's aren't the big big issue, though they did get buffed through the roof, the cloak having a free cplx profile damp that doesn't have a stacking penalty and not having a decloaking -> firing delay is a big problem. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:42:00 -
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you mean you figured out it sucks |
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KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:48:00 -
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Kincats are a force of nature brah.
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Fusion Commander
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:50:00 -
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Lol Those guys were stupid |
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:50:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Is the strategy you're referring to cloaked commando's or burst hmg heavies
The strategy with the minmatar heavy in general. That screen was me using the sentinel primarily to defend the city against an entire group of scouts
I deleted the cloaked commando fit right after this and made two actual commando fittings.
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Fusion Commander
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:54:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:
This was originally supposed to be a video about cloaks on commandos
Your video proves nothing really I'll update the OP to make things a bit more clear, but did I say I was trying to prove anything? I've been using this strategy all day and it's been giving me great scores. I just recently went 35/5 against a squad of good players using the same strategy with my sentinel: http://imgur.com/xzQQtEnLike I stated, this was originally supposed to be a video about cloaks on commandos but it showed some good gameplay of the effectiveness of the fast minmatar heavy. The point is, the commando sucks when used like this, and proves that it's not the cloaks that are an issue, but the scouts themselves. I don't see any good players on the other team |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:54:00 -
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The strategy is, stay the hell away from blueberries so you can do your thing. |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:58:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Is the strategy you're referring to cloaked commando's or burst hmg heavies The strategy with the minmatar heavy in general. That screen was me using the sentinel primarily to defend the city against an entire group of scouts I deleted the cloaked commando fit right after this and made two actual commando fittings.
But you weren't defending against the scouts. Seriously *watch your own video*, You were shooting mlt guys, and some heavies and getting wrecked by the scouts, except for the like 2 times a scout either ran straight at you or decided to punch you instead of shotgun. |
I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.03.31 04:38:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote: The strategy with the minmatar heavy in general.
That screen was me using the sentinel primarily to defend the city against an entire group of scouts
But you weren't defending against the scouts. Seriously *watch your own video*, You were shooting mlt guys, and some heavies and getting wrecked by the scouts, except for the like 2 times a scout either ran straight at you or decided to punch you instead of shotgun.
Not in the video lol, that screensht was of the battle where I defended the city against scouts with a sentinel. The video was completely different.
The "strategy" I'm referring to is yet something else entirely. It's just the ability to maintain speed/agression in the heavy suit.
I know what I was doing in the video, and yes about halfway through editing I noticed that I was killing the same 3 guys every time, mlt noobs that just kept pushing. It's not impressive no, but it shows how to use the minmatar heavy properly, as this "strategy" works the same against mlt and proto frames alike.
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.31 05:05:00 -
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I think this video should prove further that Cloak isn't OP. You went 40/8 and slaughtered a ton of cloaked Scouts because you had good awareness and were paying attention. Plus those Scouts were just zerging you... lol wtf was that? |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.31 05:06:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:I think this video should prove further that Cloak isn't OP. You went 40/8 and slaughtered a ton of cloaked Scouts because you had good awareness and were paying attention. Plus those Scouts were just zerging you... lol wtf was that?
Mlt frames are scouts now? he got 'zerged' by the same scout, twice. |
BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.31 05:08:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:BARDAS wrote:I think this video should prove further that Cloak isn't OP. You went 40/8 and slaughtered a ton of cloaked Scouts because you had good awareness and were paying attention. Plus those Scouts were just zerging you... lol wtf was that? Mlt frames are scouts now? he got 'zerged' by the same scout, twice.
Where did you see MLT frames? The time he died they were using Gallente Scout G-1 or G/1 if I remember correctly. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 05:13:00 -
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Shayz, you're not doing it right brah. I slaughter people with that thing and an HMG. Its stamina lets you get really close if they aren't paying attention, and otherwise is generally a great suicide ganker.
But it's like that one guy says. Anyone who's worth their weight as a scout or scanner will pick you up.
Not to mention the ease of which I spot cloaked scouts all the time... You can even spot them in the correct lighting conditions when they stand still
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.03.31 06:22:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:
Where did you see MLT frames? The time he died they were using Gallente Scout G-1 or G/1 if I remember correctly.
I was killing the same 3-4 guys in std and mlt suits at the end.
The scouts were actual scouts though, especially that guy in the beginning who sneaked up on me twice.
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