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Exionous
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:24:00 -
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*Names of corporations and players will be used, because you deserve to be known.*
I don't do this often. Forums, I mean. It seems I have a very different definition to what a forum is to most of the DUST 514 population. But this is something that I could not allow to go unheard. I'll start from the beginning.
Oceania. So wonderful. Matches where the teams are usually less than 10. Sometimes you get one of those matches where there's no one at all and you can randomly fly dropships around and do backflips and crash into a building.
And other times there's--I'm going to use a popular term these days--scrub corps farming ungodly amounts of kills and warpoints.
I was in an Oceania skirmish--with a few Nyain San players on the enemy team--with corpmate and friend, CLONE117. I had expected it to be one of the usual matches where I see a few black suits running around. I was a bit suprised when I began dashing around the city and didn't hear the whirl of tanks and oh-so-familiar sounds of rail rifles. I was even more suprised when I began seeing this, over, and over, and over, and over again on the kill feed...
milkman1 (Ishukone Assault Submachine Gun) nnnnnnnnnn...
milkman1 (Ishukone Assault Submachine Gun) nnnnnnnnnn...
milkman1 (Ishukone Assault Submachine Gun) nnnnnnnnnn...
milkman1 (Ishukone Assault Submachine Gun) nnnnnnnnnn...
First thoughts: Dafu---? Weird killfeed glitch. Clone points out to me that they may be doing the "nanite injector kills glitch." Still believing in the innocence of the DUST player, I chuckled to myself, and muttered, "like anyone would do that." 
Then it continued. Over, and over, and over again. "milkman1, thrashing randomly made account..." I kept saying to myself, "What the hell is going on?"
It continued throughout the entire match. If I remember correctly, milkman's final kill count was 135/0 with over 8,000 WP. EIGHT THOUSAND. More than logis would get in their "spamming days." More than the most skilled out, decked out prototype suit can get.
How long has this been going on, CCP?
How long has this been taken advantage of?
They throw out dozens of fully fledged prototype suits every match, these "scrub corps," as they seemed to be referred to, and all this time, I used to think that their high corporation KD's were because of this. But something THIS LOW?
It might just be that I'm making a big deal out of something small, or it could be because I still believe in something called "spirit of the game," or it could be that my moral standards are higher than theirs, or whatever it may be...
To Nyain San, and the others that have done this, I have only one word for you: PATHETIC.
I'm not just ranting, either. Okay, I am, but there's a point to it. This can be fixed in the next update, if not even hotfixed, through very simple measures:
- Nanite injectors can only revive an incapacitated clone one time. After the first revive, the next down will result in termination. Not only does this stop the very annoying "revive n' drop" method where we keep getting simultaneously downed and revived, this will stop this absolutely disgusting tactic of KD/WP buffing.
(It's not like you can just keep giving blood transfusions over and over again to people either, is it?)
I knew the way these corporations handled this game was bad, but not this bad. This is almost criminal. And, if you're reading this, and you see corps out there like Nyain San/Nyain Chan, WE ARE LEGENDS, SVER True Blood, Ahrendee Mercenaries, TeamPlayers, the corporations we think to be the big and the bad, remember that deep down inside, these players use the dirtiest, cheapest methods to win and get ahead, and should be treated just like that: dirty and cheap.
To who I have spoken to in this post:
I have no respect for you anymore. |
Exionous
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:53:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
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Posted - 2014.04.13 10:28:00 -
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Wait, I dont really get this. Was one guy killing one other guy, or one guy just killing the **** out of everyone else with ridiculous powers? If the former is the case its just another instance of a perversely biased game construction. Could you describe the exploit a bit more explicitly? Sorry, yeah I know I am dumb, but I want to learn.
FYI: I was in a match with 13ear yesterday. First thing I do (solo player), I look at the team-board, to see if my team has a chance of winning the match at all (most matches you can reliably predict the outcome this way). So I can adjust my tactics. So in this match I see a squad with 13ear in my team. I think: great, so were gonna win presumably, because there is no corp squad and no big names on the other team. I get into the squad, because it isnt locked, to toss a few WPs into the orbitals direction.
When I am finished with my usual 1st suit action (dropping pads around the map), I run logi for the match, establish a "bridgehead" and try to make it work. But we cant seem to get the upper hand. I look around, cant see 13ear anywhere, though the other squaddies are up with me. When I look at the map I see the "squadleader" AFKing back beneath the MCC. I make top of the board of my team with 1700 WPs. We lose. I dont believe my eyes.
Morale of the story: If you want to be on top, no tactic to get an advantage is below you. You dont deal in selfrespect, you dont deal in fun, you dont have ideals. You just function. I think thats it.
Correct me if I jumped to conclusions here, but thats my understanding of what was going on.
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:36:00 -
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Isnt that considered a form of boosting and a bannable offense.......?
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.13 17:01:00 -
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I believe NS has been doing this for a while now. I've seen numerous posts in the past about this. Was always curious about their high K/D ratios. I thought it was all due to them leaving losing matches in favor of matches where they overpower the opposition.
I will say, boosting for a shot on the leaderboards is pretty pathetic.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.04.13 18:17:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Wait, I dont really get this. Was one guy killing one other guy, or one guy just killing the **** out of everyone else with ridiculous powers? If the former is the case its just another instance of a perversely biased game construction. Could you describe the exploit a bit more explicitly? Sorry, yeah I know I am dumb, but I want to learn.
FYI: I was in a match with 13ear yesterday. First thing I do (solo player), I look at the team-board, to see if my team has a chance of winning the match at all (most matches you can reliably predict the outcome this way). So I can adjust my tactics. So in this match I see a squad with 13ear in my team. I think: great, so were gonna win presumably, because there is no corp squad and no big names on the other team. I get into the squad, because it isnt locked, to toss a few WPs into the orbitals direction.
When I am finished with my usual 1st suit action (dropping pads around the map), I run logi for the match, establish a "bridgehead" and try to make it work. But we cant seem to get the upper hand. I look around, cant see 13ear anywhere, though the other squaddies are up with me. When I look at the map I see the "squadleader" AFKing back beneath the MCC. I make top of the board of my team with 1700 WPs. We lose. I dont believe my eyes.
Morale of the story: If you want to be on top, no tactic to get an advantage is below you. You dont deal in selfrespect, you dont deal in fun, you dont have ideals. You just function. I think thats it.
Correct me if I jumped to conclusions here, but thats my understanding of what was going on.
Not quite. Nanite injector boosting is where a player coordinates with two members on the opposite team. The booster and his 'red dot' friends go to a secluded spot on the map. Then the booster kills one of the reds (usually an alt) and his 'buddy' revives him. Rince and repeat.
Its a lazy way of farming WPs/kills in a match and 'boosting' how much awards you receive and also your place on the leader boards. Such antics are a large part of why I personally feel KDR is utterly meaningless in this game.
And yes this is boosting=cheating.
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.04.13 22:02:00 -
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So where's the bans...I have yet to hear of anyone getting banned for this.....I'd like to see CCP actually do it
Real heavies use lasers
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Miles O'Rourke
Knights of Eternal Darkness
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.13 22:56:00 -
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CCP probably won't do anything without hard evidence, like a video of it happening or seeing it first hand. |
Exionous
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:51:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Wait, I dont really get this. Was one guy killing one other guy, or one guy just killing the **** out of everyone else with ridiculous powers? If the former is the case its just another instance of a perversely biased game construction. Could you describe the exploit a bit more explicitly? Sorry, yeah I know I am dumb, but I want to learn.
FYI: I was in a match with 13ear yesterday. First thing I do (solo player), I look at the team-board, to see if my team has a chance of winning the match at all (most matches you can reliably predict the outcome this way). So I can adjust my tactics. So in this match I see a squad with 13ear in my team. I think: great, so were gonna win presumably, because there is no corp squad and no big names on the other team. I get into the squad, because it isnt locked, to toss a few WPs into the orbitals direction.
When I am finished with my usual 1st suit action (dropping pads around the map), I run logi for the match, establish a "bridgehead" and try to make it work. But we cant seem to get the upper hand. I look around, cant see 13ear anywhere, though the other squaddies are up with me. When I look at the map I see the "squadleader" AFKing back beneath the MCC. I make top of the board of my team with 1700 WPs. We lose. I dont believe my eyes.
Morale of the story: If you want to be on top, no tactic to get an advantage is below you. You dont deal in selfrespect, you dont deal in fun, you dont have ideals. You just function. I think thats it.
Correct me if I jumped to conclusions here, but thats my understanding of what was going on.
To elaborate (and to bump), yes. The one guy (Milkman) was killing this "nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn" guy, while another medic on the same team as "nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn" was reviving him constantly so Milkman can continuously kill Multi-N. |
General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.04.19 00:16:00 -
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this is why i think all corporations involved in PC (at least the ones you mentioned above) are cheap. they can call themselves the "big boys" while also calling corps like mine the "preschool corps." but the tactics they themselves use show it is they very opposite. but alas, players like this have always existed in mutiplayer games. all we can do is keep playing on.
this isnt the only unskillful tactic they use either. right now these very noobs are the ones making real, squishy scouts like me look bad by hp tanking their scouts and going into the frontlines with them.
Every suit Gk.0 <3
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Exionous
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.04.19 02:54:00 -
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