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GeneralButtNaked
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:07:00 -
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Simple solution:
Die instead of switching suits at a depot. On your next spawn, spawn minny with your rep tool.
All the bonuses all for the cost of a suit.
Oh, you didn't want to spend a proto suit to just get faster spawns and lots of WP while you play johnny rep tool? Tough.
No free lunches.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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GeneralButtNaked
Amarr Templars
954
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:24:00 -
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SirManBoy wrote:
Are you familiar with the term false dichotomy? Look it up, champ.
Oh no, a person from Melon Lube attempted to act smart.
And failed by misusing a term.
Well done, now please continue to explain why you should be able to stack bonuses across suits without dying.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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GeneralButtNaked
Amarr Templars
954
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:36:00 -
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SirManBoy wrote:
No, you explain why your choices are the only ones on offer. Why should I have to die? Again, you're offering false choices when there are other possibilities, many more logical than your premise that I...A) Get over it. or B) Die and keep the bonuses.
Because CCP sucks?
Why is it on me to explain why CCP produced a flying turd again?
Right now, if you die in the suit, you keep the bonuses. So if you want to keep the low spawn time links, and then run a min logi for quality reps, that is how you do it.
FFS, give someone a tip and watch them flap themselves into a tizzy trying to be mad.
Stupid scrub.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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GeneralButtNaked
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2014.03.31 19:24:00 -
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Jack Kittinger wrote:
What logis ask for: I interpret that what logis are asking for is: After spending SP to level 4/5 on Nanohives/Uplinks/RepTools/Scans you changed the equipment to work subpar and restricted it to one suit, arbitrarily.
Therefore we ask to be able to spend SP into Dropsuit command to use that bonus(say Alogi for Uplinks) and then after spending SP on more than one suit to use another piece of equipment with best possible stats(GalLogi for Scans) we would like those uplinks to be optimal because it was already deployed, my current suit seems trivial to how a piece of equipment works.
TL;DR
Logis ask that equipment used, after spending the needed SP, remains optimal because the bonus/suit/equipment was earned thru wasting SP
The equipment is not restricted to one suit. It is optimized for one suit.
You restrict it to one suit because you want to make an argument, but it falls apart because you are falsely setting restrictions that don't exist.
Stuff gets nerfed. Deal with it.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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GeneralButtNaked
Amarr Templars
989
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:02:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:
I respect your opinion.
But regarding your last sentence, the problem was that CCP kind of didn't make this known very well to everyone who doesn't search the forums for one post. This change should have been plastered in bold print at the top of the 1.8 change list. And it wasn't. So folks went ahead and spent millions of SP without the knowledge to make an educated decision.
That is failure, and logi's who simply want to support other players (like you) shouldn't have to deal with THAT.
Hence the point of this thread, I think.
They are two separate points though.
The equipment nerf, and the logi bonuses and how they apply.
On the bonuses, and the manner in which they do apply, CCP absolutely should have been more clear, especailly about what would or would not allow the bonus to function. This is a large part of why I specced Gallente logi, because I was not sure at all how the bonuses would play out, and I suspected that they would not function properly for some weeks.
On the equipment nerf though, it is mostly whining and pining for what was. I can say that running nanohives, a needle and a rep tool on a Gallente logi is not a bad setup for squad support. I could even throw some links if I wanted to.
I still revive guys at 80%, which is darn good enough for even my crappy rep tool(never invested SP, was an Amarr logi before) to top guys off between combat. Sure you have to carry proto hives if you are around muppets, but if you are with a squad who doesn't act a fool with their grenades, advanced hives can go a long way. Sure the links won't get that 4 second spawn time, but if you can't protect a link for 8 seconds, you probably shouldn't put it there anyway.
On top of all that adequate logi work I can put in, I also get super scans.
Oh, and a nice slot layout that lets me rock 700hp at advanced and 900hp at proto with no problems. With anything from 2-15 reps.
Seriously, if you can't logi in the current system, you weren't a good logi in the last build either. You were just an equipment spamming, scan dancing crate hider with a rep tool. The last to die, but always with a full clip.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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