DUST Search - People are going to get the cloak nerfed, so I suggest this fix

Leanna Boghin wrote:

GeneralButtNaked wrote:

You obviously have no clue dude you cant use any of that equipment now. Dropuplinks the timers on them are so ridiculously high yeah sure you cant spam them cause there is no use for them your better off using a CRU than a dropuplink now. Nanohives why bother skilling, buying and using them when they will fill maybe 2 clips on your weapon (a better fix for it would have been to eliminate restocking of grenades altogether but no instead they nerfed the whole damn thing instead unnecessarily) so thats another useless item. Oh rep tools yeah sure you can still rep if your not being shot at. The idea behind rep tools is to rep people but if you cant take cover and rep because you have to stand there shooting people instead thanks to the overly nerfed range of a rep tool. Then there really is no use for rep tools or logis in general. So yeah your idea of it being balanced is complete garbage. But hey now logis have more reason to be assault logi than a healer logi


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GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 941	Posted - 2014.03.30 18:13:00 - [1] - Quote That you think logis got nerfed speaks volumes. They didn't, they got really well balanced. Not that there is a problem with RE's magically appearing out of thin air, or the uncloak sound playing after shotgun round 1 and 2 have gone into your back. CCP can't resist rewarding scrub gameplay. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 946	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:09:00 - [2] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: They did get balanced, and the balance was a hard nerf to equipment and reps. The reps needed to be taken away, but I don't think all equipment need to be changed. The equipment needed to be changed because if you just gave logis bonuses then you just gave them a huge buff for no reason. Adding skills that improve equipment beyond what it was before is not possible without turning down the equipment unless you think logis should be able to carry all the best equipment, 900 hp and a proto weapon and grenade. EDIT: Also, think about what got changed. Rep tool was reduced in range to prevent logis hiding out behind cover unless you are a min logi. Good change, reduces risk free gameplay. Nanohives were nerfed in capacity which greatly prevents grenade spam. Good change. Scanners were not nerfed, aside from no more spinners. Good change. Drop uplinks got nerfed hard, and for the reasons why CCP stated it is an interesting change. The immediate cut down on uplink spam is noticeable. Good change. You can still use all those equipment, you just can't abuse them all at once. Good change. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 946	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:22:00 - [3] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Again, the cloak already came pre-nerfed and doesn't need any futher nerfing at all. There are just a few bugs that need to be addressed with it such as the bug which keeps you cloaked even when attacking. Cloak came pre-nerfed my ass. No sound on decloaking if you are behind the target. Kind of defeats the purpose of the sound. Throwing an RE means you are not uncloaked until after it hits the ground, complete BS. Any situation where you can fire the first shot and still be cloaked needs to be removed. Also, fluxes need to deactivate the cloak. If it takes out shields and hives, cloaks should go to. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 947	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:29:00 - [4] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Anyways, I do agree that the decloak animation takes too long to finish and should be reduced so that the animation completes long before you even use the weapon. This is probably the only exception I will make for adjusting the cloak along with decloaking after getting fluxed at least. Meh, I have never heard a scout decloak behind me. I have heard it when it has happened beside me. Normall the first indication of the scout is the shotgun round. My issues with the cloak are mostly centered around how long you stay cloaked after you are trying to pull out equipment. As soon as that cortex goes down you should be 100% visible. No delay, no uncloaking, just pop and there you are, still starting to pull out your equipment or weapon. That way there is an actual tactical choice about when to uncloak. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 952	Posted - 2014.03.30 19:46:00 - [5] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: You obviously have no clue dude you cant use any of that equipment now. Dropuplinks the timers on them are so ridiculously high yeah sure you cant spam them cause there is no use for them your better off using a CRU than a dropuplink now. Nanohives why bother skilling, buying and using them when they will fill maybe 2 clips on your weapon (a better fix for it would have been to eliminate restocking of grenades altogether but no instead they nerfed the whole damn thing instead unnecessarily) so thats another useless item. Oh rep tools yeah sure you can still rep if your not being shot at. The idea behind rep tools is to rep people but if you cant take cover and rep because you have to stand there shooting people instead thanks to the overly nerfed range of a rep tool. Then there really is no use for rep tools or logis in general. So yeah your idea of it being balanced is complete garbage. But hey now logis have more reason to be assault logi than a healer logi Learn to format. 8 second spawn timer on a proto link. Less than an Objective or CRU, so they are still viable. In domination where there are no objectives to spawn on, any link is better than no link. Nanohives provide plenty of ammo in a pinch until your squad gets to a supply depot. Unless you think one guy should be able to roll up and resupply a squad for a whole match with one hive. I was rolling around with a proto needle and a STD rep tool, worked great as a support healer. No, logis are good, you just want OP. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 953	Posted - 2014.03.30 20:06:00 - [6] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: You dear sir obviously dont play enough of the game. Only one proto link as a timer less than a CRU the rest of the proto uplinks have a positive timer. And no Nanohives wont even fill the needs of one person let alone a squad so no they dont provide nearly enough for even the person carrying them. as for the rep tool im sure you were back in beta but this is 1.8 and trust me dude you cant heal anyone with those things anymore not while your being shot at. They will kill you before you even got the chance to pull the rep tool out. But hey keep having those wonderful delusions of a game thats actually balanced. Maybe someday those dreams will come true (although i think hell will freeze over before this game ever gets balanced) And if you want to talk over powered lets talk tank and assault drop ship spamming since those are the most OP thing in the game and the most abused. LOL, you are just bad. Keep blaming the equipment for you getting murdered. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.