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Big Burns
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
88
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:29:00 -
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Ok, so...I don't know where to begin. CCP has to establish a foundation for this game. All of their updates are crazy. Instead of working around their foundation, they rebuild everything from the ground up just to make new material fit. In this build, they finally added racial bonuses, which is great, however they completely gutted the game and the skill tree to make this possible. That was un-neccessary. Here's an example: You skill into a Gallente Logi. Proto. You skill into all proto equipment. This is a big investment for SP. Instead of keeping the foundation, which in this case we are concentrating on your equipment, the same and making each logi racial bonus OP towards a certain piece of equipment, they nerf all equipment, and give you the choice to pick which piece of equipment your going to make use of. Everything else is now garbage and now all of your investments from previous builds are of no use to you, except that one. This build has stripped the veterans of multiple roles, as it takes more SP to skill into more dropsuit, alot more than what we were given back. You get 2 mil SP back for the update, but in order for you to fulfill all of your previous roles, you now have to skill into 5x as many dropsuits. The play-style has become more...1 dimensional now. You have to skill into a scout with cloak or be swallowed alive by the swarms of players exploiting the flavor of the month. All dropsuits are under-powered, as they cannot fulfill all of their previous roles. Now i know what your thinking,"This guy is just p*ssed off, because his logi suit got nerfed", and the answer is yes, but the problem goes so much further than that. CCP needs standards. They need to create something and build on that principle. People don't quit Dust, because their suit gets nerfed, they quit because every update, the entire game changes. This game is like a individual going through adolesence, it hasn't found it's self yet, it doesn't know who it wants to be. It's all over the place. There is no doubt in my mind that this build was created to appeal to the newer players of Dust. The new out-lay restricts veterans from use of multiple roles and compliments newer players, by providing them with EZ-mode, such as cloaking devices and militia tanks. This game is in a horrible state. Some may call it a learning curve. 1 thing is certain though, if this game continues to major changes, as if it were still in beta, more and more players will go else-where. So much SP wasted and so much salvage un-touched for years. Just sitting there, no purpose. You gotta ask yourself...is Dust worth a gamers time?
Possibly the best around.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
512
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:33:00 -
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Huge wall of text to say that you think scouts are OP and over played. |
Sir Snugglz
Red Star. EoN.
567
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:34:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Huge wall of text to say that you think scouts are OP and over played.
thanks for summing it up... thought i was gonna have to read everything
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
-Luck is just one of my skills
-Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4858
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:36:00 -
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For the love of God, indent your paragraphs!
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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Patrick57
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
6358
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:38:00 -
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The Enter key is your friend. |
Regnier Feros
Immortal Guides
69
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:38:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWq-jelDxu4 IAMGROOT
I serve Queen Dabomb
*Original Royal Guard
*Weapon Of Choice: MH-82 HMG
*Current Goal:Destroy Adonis's Tank
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2307
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:40:00 -
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Big Burns wrote: Ok, so...I don't know where to begin. CCP has to establish a foundation for this game. All of their updates are crazy. Instead of working around their foundation, they rebuild everything from the ground up just to make new material fit. In this build, they finally added racial bonuses, which is great, however they completely gutted the game and the skill tree to make this possible. That was un-neccessary. Here's an example: You skill into a Gallente Logi. Proto. You skill into all proto equipment. This is a big investment for SP. Instead of keeping the foundation, which in this case we are concentrating on your equipment, the same and making each logi racial bonus OP towards a certain piece of equipment, they nerf all equipment, and give you the choice to pick which piece of equipment your going to make use of. Everything else is now garbage and now all of your investments from previous builds are of no use to you, except that one. This build has stripped the veterans of multiple roles, as it takes more SP to skill into more dropsuit, alot more than what we were given back. You get 2 mil SP back for the update, but in order for you to fulfill all of your previous roles, you now have to skill into 5x as many dropsuits. The play-style has become more...1 dimensional now. You have to skill into a scout with cloak or be swallowed alive by the swarms of players exploiting the flavor of the month. All dropsuits are under-powered, as they cannot fulfill all of their previous roles. Now i know what your thinking,"This guy is just p*ssed off, because his logi suit got nerfed", and the answer is yes, but the problem goes so much further than that. CCP needs standards. They need to create something and build on that principle. People don't quit Dust, because their suit gets nerfed, they quit because every update, the entire game changes. This game is like a individual going through adolesence, it hasn't found it's self yet, it doesn't know who it wants to be. It's all over the place. There is no doubt in my mind that this build was created to appeal to the newer players of Dust. The new out-lay restricts veterans from use of multiple roles and compliments newer players, by providing them with EZ-mode, such as cloaking devices and militia tanks. This game is in a horrible state. Some may call it a learning curve. 1 thing is certain though, if this game continues to major changes, as if it were still in beta, more and more players will go else-where. So much SP wasted and so much salvage un-touched for years. Just sitting there, no purpose. You gotta ask yourself...is Dust worth a gamers time?
MY EYES WHERE ARE MY EYES I THINK I LOST THEN I THIS WALL OF TEXT
For the Federation!
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Skullmizer Vulcansu
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:44:00 -
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I had no trouble reading that. It's really not that much. I don't think that equipment is that much worse now. Repair tools still repair at the same rate, and nanohives heal and replenish just as much, you just need to restock them more. At the prototype level, you carry more than you can deploy anyway. And what's an extra five seconds for spawning in? I have never used scanners.
I did think that sidearms were reworked excessively. I feel like the scrambler pistol I skilled into before was more like the Ion pistol than the scrambler pistol now. That's kind of annoying.
I don't think cloaks are so bad, I do think tanks are bad. They should be more expensive.
This game makes me suicidal.
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Big Burns
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
88
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:51:00 -
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Skullmizer Vulcansu wrote:I had no trouble reading that. It's really not that much. I don't think that equipment is that much worse now. Repair tools still repair at the same rate, and nanohives heal and replenish just as much, you just need to restock them more. At the prototype level, you carry more than you can deploy anyway. And what's an extra five seconds for spawning in? I have never used scanners.
I did think that sidearms were reworked excessively. I feel like the scrambler pistol I skilled into before was more like the Ion pistol than the scrambler pistol now. That's kind of annoying.
I don't think cloaks are so bad, I do think tanks are bad. They should be more expensive.
The point of my thread wasn't to complain about things being OP or UP. I'm just tired of the format/evironment completely changing everytime. They mess with everything, when they don't have to.
Possibly the best around.
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
360
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:04:00 -
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i ran commando all last night with 4 other heavies no scout could even phase us until ppl got sleepy and the formation began to fall apart. all this crap about scouts owning the whole game is total BS and propaganda. the uncloak lag exploit needs to be fixed all.
also LAV > scout, scout > dampless guy who likes to run from point to point by himself. RE scout is counter to tank spam relined games no longer the norm
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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Horizen Kenpachi
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
244
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:07:00 -
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Format it then il read till then no u are probably wrong as that wall dosnt show inteligence
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1285
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:07:00 -
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the goggles.. they do nothing! |
Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
360
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:08:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Skullmizer Vulcansu wrote:I had no trouble reading that. It's really not that much. I don't think that equipment is that much worse now. Repair tools still repair at the same rate, and nanohives heal and replenish just as much, you just need to restock them more. At the prototype level, you carry more than you can deploy anyway. And what's an extra five seconds for spawning in? I have never used scanners.
I did think that sidearms were reworked excessively. I feel like the scrambler pistol I skilled into before was more like the Ion pistol than the scrambler pistol now. That's kind of annoying.
I don't think cloaks are so bad, I do think tanks are bad. They should be more expensive. The point of my thread wasn't to complain about things being OP or UP. I'm just tired of the format/evironment completely changing everytime. They mess with everything, when they don't have to. i see what your saying and normally i'd agree but this time it kinda worked, there's 3x more infantry fighting than before and 3x less redlined games. this is the reason i am not looking forward to pilot suit because they will gut the system and make the pilot suit required to bring us back up to our dropship pre pilot suit power.
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
1604
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:12:00 -
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A Wild Wall of Text appears!
Use your Grammar Attack!
It's not very effective.
Wall of Text uses Induce Eye Bleeding!
It's super effective!
Let me play you the song of my people!
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Big Burns
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
88
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:14:00 -
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Horizen Kenpachi wrote:Format it then il read till then no u are probably wrong as that wall dosnt show inteligence
What?! Your sentence has no punctuation! Shew troll, don't bother me.
Possibly the best around.
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Derrith Erador
Arrogance.
1411
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:16:00 -
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Sir Snugglz wrote:Sigberct Amni wrote:Huge wall of text to say that you think scouts are OP and over played. thanks for summing it up... thought i was gonna have to read everything Here here! But what do I care? I'm too busy flying above them allowing them to hear the sound of their doom. They'll know it's me when the sky rains panties.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
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Big Burns
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
88
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:16:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:A Wild Wall of Text appears!
Use your Grammar Attack!
It's not very effective.
Wall of Text uses Induce Eye Bleeding!
It's super effective!
LMFAO! I love it. Gimme some feedback though.
Possibly the best around.
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Scheherazade VII
370
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:17:00 -
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Big Burns wrote: Ok, so...I don't know where to begin. CCP has to establish a foundation for this game. All of their updates are crazy. Instead of working around their foundation, they rebuild everything from the ground up just to make new material fit. In this build, they finally added racial bonuses, which is great, however they completely gutted the game and the skill tree to make this possible. That was un-neccessary. Here's an example: You skill into a Gallente Logi. Proto. You skill into all proto equipment. This is a big investment for SP. Instead of keeping the foundation, which in this case we are concentrating on your equipment, the same and making each logi racial bonus OP towards a certain piece of equipment, they nerf all equipment, and give you the choice to pick which piece of equipment your going to make use of. Everything else is now garbage and now all of your investments from previous builds are of no use to you, except that one. This build has stripped the veterans of multiple roles, as it takes more SP to skill into more dropsuit, alot more than what we were given back. You get 2 mil SP back for the update, but in order for you to fulfill all of your previous roles, you now have to skill into 5x as many dropsuits. The play-style has become more...1 dimensional now. You have to skill into a scout with cloak or be swallowed alive by the swarms of players exploiting the flavor of the month. All dropsuits are under-powered, as they cannot fulfill all of their previous roles. Now i know what your thinking,"This guy is just p*ssed off, because his logi suit got nerfed", and the answer is yes, but the problem goes so much further than that. CCP needs standards. They need to create something and build on that principle. People don't quit Dust, because their suit gets nerfed, they quit because every update, the entire game changes. This game is like a individual going through adolesence, it hasn't found it's self yet, it doesn't know who it wants to be. It's all over the place. There is no doubt in my mind that this build was created to appeal to the newer players of Dust. The new out-lay restricts veterans from use of multiple roles and compliments newer players, by providing them with EZ-mode, such as cloaking devices and militia tanks. This game is in a horrible state. Some may call it a learning curve. 1 thing is certain though, if this game continues to major changes, as if it were still in beta, more and more players will go else-where. So much SP wasted and so much salvage un-touched for years. Just sitting there, no purpose. You gotta ask yourself...is Dust worth a gamers time?
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
95
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:38:00 -
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"CCP has to establish a foundation for this game"
*goes on to whine about how making Logis the only class that can use equipment to their greatest potential isn't establishing a foundation* |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6260
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:40:00 -
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Scheherazade VII beat me to it.
The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers"
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Big Burns
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
93
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:59:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:"CCP has to establish a foundation for this game"
*goes on to whine about how making Logis the only class that can use equipment to their greatest potential isn't establishing a foundation*
They have no foundation. They have touched everything in this game. They haven't created one thing and said,"This stays the same no matter what." Buff, Nerf, Buff, Nerf, Buff. If you had more than 1 proto dropsuit before 1.8, you would understand. It's a game changer and if you played in PC you'd know that. No one is going to spawn on a 9 sec uplink in PC. If you have uplinks you have to go amarr logi. Do you not see anything wrong with that?
Possibly the best around.
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Rusty Shallows
1320
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:16:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Scheherazade VII beat me to it. He is a killjoy who ruined everyone's fun. Now we have to take the post seriously. *long sigh*
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
1973
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:27:00 -
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I looked at wall of text
thought for a second
continued to next thread
Team carry Prof. IV
I am a carried scrub!
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The Tunski
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
33
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:29:00 -
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Just because they toned down equipment and made each race use one piece better for each, doesn't mean the equipment is non usable. |
The Tunski
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
33
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:30:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I looked at wall of text
thought for a second
continued to next thread
Skipped a step, posted this comment and moved to next thread. |
The Tunski
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
33
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:34:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:"CCP has to establish a foundation for this game"
*goes on to whine about how making Logis the only class that can use equipment to their greatest potential isn't establishing a foundation* They have no foundation. They have touched everything in this game. They haven't created one thing and said,"This stays the same no matter what." Buff, Nerf, Buff, Nerf, Buff. If you had more than 1 proto dropsuit before 1.8, you would understand. It's a game changer and if you played in PC you'd know that. No one is going to spawn on a 9 sec uplink in PC. If you have uplinks you have to go amarr logi. Do you not see anything wrong with that?
I see nothing wrong with that. What I see is an importance in having atleast one amarr logi for PC. This is the separation for race variants and what makes it useful compared to others... This will be the first time I'll say this on the forums, adapt or...... well who cares. |
Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2014.04.02 08:44:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:"CCP has to establish a foundation for this game"
*goes on to whine about how making Logis the only class that can use equipment to their greatest potential isn't establishing a foundation* They have no foundation. They have touched everything in this game. They haven't created one thing and said,"This stays the same no matter what." Buff, Nerf, Buff, Nerf, Buff. If you had more than 1 proto dropsuit before 1.8, you would understand. It's a game changer and if you played in PC you'd know that. No one is going to spawn on a 9 sec uplink in PC. If you have uplinks you have to go amarr logi. Do you not see anything wrong with that?
I see nothing wrong with it, but that's probably because there's nothing wrong with it. If you don't see the value of not having to spawn on CRUs or null cannons then there's no point in having this conversation. There are also droplinks with specifically shorter spawn times.
"They have no foundation. They have touched everything in this game. They haven't created one thing and said,"This stays the same no matter what." Buff, Nerf, Buff, Nerf, Buff."
You're right! That's terrible game design. That's the kind of thing that League of Legends does, and look how unsuccessful they are. But you're right, they should always just keep everything the same. That's what Eve does! Right? |
Cinnamon267
125
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Posted - 2014.04.02 09:41:00 -
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Big Burns wrote: You have to skill into a scout with cloak or be swallowed alive by the swarms of players exploiting the flavor of the month.
Not so much. You spec into Rail rifles and Assault Combat Rifles if you don't want to be swallowed alive. Specing scouts means you like punishment. I rarely accomplish anything as a scout. I accomplish some things as a commando. The thing stopping me isn't cloaked scouts. It's Rail Rifles and Assault Combat Rifles. I have 250 health as a scout and if I'm revealed, I die instantly. Or if someone sees me I die. Simple. I can't survive.
The speed at which I die to those freaking weapons is insane. Good insane as a scout, bad insane as a commando.
People quit Dust because they don't like it. Things changing doesn't get people to go. Things not changing, i.e Tank spam and weapons that are too powerful and go too long without fixes, are what cause people to leave. Lack of content gets people to leave.
Your logic makes no sense. |
TheDarthMa94
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
210
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Posted - 2014.04.02 09:44:00 -
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In DUST514, either you adapt or die.
Sith Apprentice and Director of NAO
"I will fight and die for my corp, friends and allies to the last drop of latte"
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Alena Ventrallis
PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn
1100
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Posted - 2014.04.02 10:17:00 -
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I'd like to buy a line break.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
Fixed link.
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