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TBdaBoss ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 42	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:23:00 - [1] - Quote Now, bear with me, but this is the first build that so many things have been complained about in the forums. It's a side effect of something that's relatively new to the community: variety. My friend pointed out to me in-game the other day that we are now seeing almost every weapon in the killfeed. I (personally) am not getting killed my one thing repeatedly anymore. I'm being taken out by scouts (cloaked and uncloaked, shotguns and otherwise), heavies, tanks, snipers (read: cnts), mass driver users. etc., and I see that as a good thing. I'm seeing everyone use everything. People are complaining that scouts are the FoTM, but I've seen a relatively balanced number of scouts. People are crying about the tank nerf, but I'm still getting killed by tankers (read: cnts) regularly. Don't get me wrong. There are still glitches and bugs that need to be ironed out, namely the decloaking. There are still plenty of balancing tweaks that need to be done. But for me, this certainly the most balanced build so far. Thoughts? Opinions? Concerns? WE WERE GODS ONCE
Yan Darn Science For Death 436	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:44:00 - [2] - Quote I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment. Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... The Ghost of Bravo
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2215	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:47:00 - [3] - Quote I am enjoying 1.8 and all my problems come from the squad I am in, many don't use coms or even put out squad orders. I like all the changes and with some bug killing I think the game will be the best it has been in a long time. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4532	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:53:00 - [4] - Quote I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. I am your scan error.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 555	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:54:00 - [5] - Quote lol i thought the same thing earlier when i saw 5 fotm threads about diffrent things BACON my recruiter link
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1428	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:55:00 - [6] - Quote Nerf the large railguns, then we can talk about whether it's balanced or not. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2569	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:57:00 - [7] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Nerf the large railguns, then we can talk about whether it's balanced or not. They're already getting nerffed Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6249	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:57:00 - [8] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment (which is how it should be...). Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... You mean old scouts? New Scouts are finally balanced and on par with the other frames. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2475	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:58:00 - [9] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Harpyja wrote: Nerf the large railguns, then we can talk about whether it's balanced or not. They're already getting nerffed They aren't. It's basically a buff. Have fun resisting Railgun's massive damage without decent hardeners! Not like any decent tankers really used them from that kind of range anyway. ak.0 4 LYFE CCP GIB LANCE TURRET PLOX LET ME MELEE PEOPLE WITH MY STEED
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 874	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:02:00 - [10] - Quote -Hums a tune while enjoying another great game of DUST- Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 968	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:04:00 - [11] - Quote Weapon/suit/vehicle mix is still in flux as people experiment with the changes. I think it's a bit too early to tell how it will end up, but overall I agree with the OP that we're seeing much greater diversity on the battlefield. Once the FoTM makes itself known to the community, I suspect we'll see less diversity. Time will tell, but I like what I'm seeing.
lDocHollidayl Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 516	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:05:00 - [12] - Quote My friends and I are all having fun. Great leap CCP.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 906	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:12:00 - [13] - Quote I used a comando with a LASER rifle yesterday... ALL DAY!! because it was so fun. This is definatly the most balanced build yet. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:25:00 - [14] - Quote As someone who uses Sniper suits and also tanks a lot. I learned I am a c*nt. LOL ;-)
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1432	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:38:00 - [15] - Quote best patch ever. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2065	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:41:00 - [16] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Agreed. I like to call this the "Adamance Effect".
Jaster J F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 5	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:59:00 - [17] - Quote Very well put :D
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 592	Posted - 2014.03.29 16:36:00 - [18] - Quote Best patch yet! #lolcats Volunteer member of the Arkombine, but i don't want out.
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster 350	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:04:00 - [19] - Quote Hated the build the first couple of days. But now I've become one with Dust once again. To Live Is To Die
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 241	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:39:00 - [20] - Quote I feel the Rail rifles are at a pretty good spot right now. I can still put out suppressive fire over cover from a long distance, but I can't just drill through anyone any more. Its good where it is, though its taking some personal adjustment to get used to it. Not really a big CR user, but haven't seen too many on the field lately (except the rare MinAssault or Minommando). The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.

Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 1064	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:49:00 - [21] - Quote Assaults need a buff, bugs need fixing. Other than this, I agree with you. We still need some balancing tweaks though. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 733	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:51:00 - [22] - Quote I love how you're seeing the variety in not just weapons but suits. Has anyone else noticed the matches seem much more balanced then before? I think this is another reason people complain since with the better matches you tend to die more. I've only had one domination where we red lined the other side and they managed to break it after a few minutes. Sure my squad will usually win matches but now they're fun and not just a red line fest half the time like before. ...
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1174	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:53:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment (which is how it should be...). Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... You mean old scouts? New Scouts are finally balanced and on par with the other frames. Really? I think we are OP, but hey I'll keep running scout when I need to take aggressions out on Dust and calmmando when I want a challenge. I know this will be unpopular with most of my fellow forum warriors but I think assaults are fine right now too. Could they be a little better without being OP? Sure. But are they as severely UP as most would have you believe? Not in my opinion Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
killer carrot top Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 105	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:56:00 - [24] - Quote Ccp needs to shut down dust for at least a year so that go in and fix all there **** up and maybe just maybe this game will do well and 1.8 ain't balance minmatar is completely useless again.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1894	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:11:00 - [25] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Atiim wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment (which is how it should be...). Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... You mean old scouts? New Scouts are finally balanced and on par with the other frames. Really? I think we are OP, but hey I'll keep running scout when I need to take aggressions out on Dust and calmmando when I want a challenge. I know this will be unpopular with most of my fellow forum warriors but I think assaults are fine right now too. Could they be a little better without being OP? Sure. But are they as severely UP as most would have you believe? Not in my opinion I personally think this is a great opportunity for CCP. That 'little bit' that the medium frames are needing should be what we get from the basic frame skills. This would fill out the medium frames and give some meaning to those dead sp sink skills that unlock gear use. And agreed with you about the medium frames being okish, Zahle. Even the sver suit with a damper and a precision enhancer manages to scrape by with it's severely gimped tank. I support SP rollover.
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 54	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:13:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment (which is how it should be...). Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... You mean old scouts? New Scouts are finally balanced and on par with the other frames. Shots fired lol. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 54	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:14:00 - [27] - Quote I generally agree, I run Amarr scout mostly. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6252	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:16:00 - [28] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Really? I think we are OP, but hey I'll keep running scout when I need to take aggressions out on Dust and calmmando when I want a challenge. I know this will be unpopular with most of my fellow forum warriors but I think assaults are fine right now too. Could they be a little better without being OP? Sure. But are they as severely UP as most would have you believe? Not in my opinion I believe that Scouts are balanced, but the Cloak Fields are a different story. Well that, and their ability to stack HP modules to the point that it negates the Light Frame's main sacrifice.... HP. I don't believe Assaults are underpowered necessarily, just outperformed. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 183	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:21:00 - [29] - Quote Its to early to tell.. They are still hunting for the FOTM combo... Wait a week or two and lets see. But your friend is right, I am seeing the same thing right now. But there is some obvious weak weapons already. Bolt Pistol Ion Pistol These weapons are 100% inferior to other counterparts and quickly will disappear from the field.
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 243	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:50:00 - [30] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Its to early to tell.. They are still hunting for the FOTM combo... Wait a week or two and lets see. But your friend is right, I am seeing the same thing right now. But there is some obvious weak weapons already. Bolt Pistol Ion Pistol These weapons are 100% inferior to other counterparts and quickly will disappear from the field. The Bolt has a glitch in its range right now, but it packs a massive punch. Once that's ironed out it will be the cause of much rage. Haven't tried the Ion yet, but I hear its a decent can of scout-begone. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.

Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 147	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:59:00 - [31] - Quote killer carrot top wrote: Ccp needs to shut down dust for at least a year so that go in and fix all there **** up and maybe just maybe this game will do well and 1.8 ain't balance minmatar is completely useless again. Without the data provided from players (gameplay and forums), it would be stupidly difficult for CCP to find all the bugs, nevermind fix them. Do you really want to play a game that has been in development for a year with no live testing? DUST was in development longer than that before closed beta, a lot of it was bad. Fun as all hell, but bad. Think I'll pass on a second run. Back to topic I've only played 1.8 for a few hours but so far I like it. Battles seem more matched and I was dieing a lot more, but it didn't feel like a cheap death. The Magsec is a beast and I think CCP got it right. It has both power and range, but the kick is high enough to make long shots a matter of skill, not full-auto luck. I like the cloaks too, specced into ADV Gal scout to try them out. Turns out I'm just god awful at scouting, was never a fan of stealth (except MGS). So now I use it as an AV suit. Kinkats, reactives and swarms actually makes a decent tank buster/harasser.
TBdaBoss ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 58	Posted - 2014.03.29 20:06:00 - [32] - Quote Talryn Vilneram wrote: As someone who uses Sniper suits and also tanks a lot. I learned I am a c*nt. LOL ;-) Thanks for being a sport! WE WERE GODS ONCE
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4547	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:18:00 - [33] - Quote Scout numbers already seem to have died down. I am your scan error.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 555	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:35:00 - [34] - Quote I agree almost completely, but before getting too GÇ£rainbows and sunshineGÇ¥ can we please not forget about the Gallente AR. The assault combat rifle outperforms it in every aspect including fitting requirements and it is generally outperformed by everything. Give me a bit more damage and I think it will be 100% spot on.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7729	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:43:00 - [35] - Quote I have seen the vast majority of the matches I play being fair with the exception of about one or two every every 5-7 matches being wildly unfair. Even ambush, ever since the recent vehicle limit imposed, has now become more infantry focused with battles being more epic than ever before. Yes there are still plenty of bugs to deal with but so far the fairness of the matches and the balance of weapons and suits has made DUST much more tolerable and thus enjoyable to me. This has even encouraged me to spend some aurum on boosters even. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7729	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:44:00 - [36] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Scout numbers already seem to have died down. Those are the tourists (aka fake scouts) leaving the scouting profession to the real pros. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
axINVICTUSxa BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 55	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:48:00 - [37] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Ave. We skilled recons are mad at these "so called scouts" who are all FotM and trying to steal us old guy's glory. How many of these new "scouts" are sticking to the traditional Sniper role? 'bout 1 in a hundred, there all in here for the cloak. And the shotgun, that's really all you see. Given, there are a few of us old bloods out here who are good at the true scout skills and don't need a cloak to get a high KDR. Sic 'em bastards. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7732	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:51:00 - [38] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: I love how you're seeing the variety in not just weapons but suits. Has anyone else noticed the matches seem much more balanced then before? I think this is another reason people complain since with the better matches you tend to die more. I've only had one domination where we red lined the other side and they managed to break it after a few minutes. Sure my squad will usually win matches but now they're fun and not just a red line fest half the time like before. I will be amazed if CCP never bothered to fix matchmaking at this point because it feels like they fixed matchmaking. It's probably because we have new suits, weapons, cloaks, and other things that have affected matchmaking perhaps. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7732	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:53:00 - [39] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Ave. We skilled recons are mad at these "so called scouts" who are all FotM and trying to steal us old guy's glory. How many of these new "scouts" are sticking to the traditional Sniper role? 'bout 1 in a hundred, there all in here for the cloak. And the shotgun, that's really all you see. Given, there are a few of us old bloods out here who are good at the true scout skills and don't need a cloak to get a high KDR. Sic 'em bastards. Lol I use the cloak but only to get around and flank more effectively in open areas. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4549	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:54:00 - [40] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Ave. We skilled recons are mad at these "so called scouts" who are all FotM and trying to steal us old guy's glory. How many of these new "scouts" are sticking to the traditional Sniper role? 'bout 1 in a hundred, there all in here for the cloak. And the shotgun, that's really all you see. Given, there are a few of us old bloods out here who are good at the true scout skills and don't need a cloak to get a high KDR. Sic 'em bastards. Actually, I'm even straying from the traditional sniper role. That's now held by caldari commandos. All scouts now, caldari included, aren't set up for sniping. The skill bonuses make it pretty clear that scouts are no longer intended for sniping. I am your scan error.

axINVICTUSxa BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 56	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:55:00 - [41] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Ave. We skilled recons are mad at these "so called scouts" who are all FotM and trying to steal us old guy's glory. How many of these new "scouts" are sticking to the traditional Sniper role? 'bout 1 in a hundred, there all in here for the cloak. And the shotgun, that's really all you see. Given, there are a few of us old bloods out here who are good at the true scout skills and don't need a cloak to get a high KDR. Sic 'em bastards. Lol I use the cloak but only to get around and flank more effectively in open areas. O.o I find that contrary. In the open ground, cloaking DOES reduce your profile but also a flickering light is a good attractor for Sniper forge heavies or other Snipers. Like me. I'm guilty of the same, at times, really. Especially if I am in an urban area, I use cloaks move around and to scout out my enemy first, then switch to SR to pick 'em off. Found a cloaked logi once. Probably thought he was one hell of a sneaky bastard 'till I pegged him with a headshot kill. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7732	Posted - 2014.03.30 00:57:00 - [42] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Ave. We skilled recons are mad at these "so called scouts" who are all FotM and trying to steal us old guy's glory. How many of these new "scouts" are sticking to the traditional Sniper role? 'bout 1 in a hundred, there all in here for the cloak. And the shotgun, that's really all you see. Given, there are a few of us old bloods out here who are good at the true scout skills and don't need a cloak to get a high KDR. Sic 'em bastards. Lol I use the cloak but only to get around and flank more effectively in open areas. O.o I find that contrary. In the open ground, cloaking DOES reduce your profile but also a flickering light is a good attractor for Sniper forge heavies or other Snipers. Like me. I'm guilty of the same, at times, really. Especially if I am in an urban area, I use cloaks move around and to scout out my enemy first, then switch to SR to pick 'em off. Found a cloaked logi once. Probably thought he was one hell of a sneaky bastard 'till I pegged him with a headshot kill. Have you ever spotted a cloaked scout in those open areas where the terrain is bright and the day is sunny so that the shimmer is hidden due to lack of contrast? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
axINVICTUSxa BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 56	Posted - 2014.03.30 01:00:00 - [43] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Ave. We skilled recons are mad at these "so called scouts" who are all FotM and trying to steal us old guy's glory. How many of these new "scouts" are sticking to the traditional Sniper role? 'bout 1 in a hundred, there all in here for the cloak. And the shotgun, that's really all you see. Given, there are a few of us old bloods out here who are good at the true scout skills and don't need a cloak to get a high KDR. Sic 'em bastards. Lol I use the cloak but only to get around and flank more effectively in open areas. O.o I find that contrary. In the open ground, cloaking DOES reduce your profile but also a flickering light is a good attractor for Sniper forge heavies or other Snipers. Like me. I'm guilty of the same, at times, really. Especially if I am in an urban area, I use cloaks move around and to scout out my enemy first, then switch to SR to pick 'em off. Found a cloaked logi once. Probably thought he was one hell of a sneaky bastard 'till I pegged him with a headshot kill. Have you ever spotted a cloaked scout in those open areas where the terrain is bright and the day is sunny so that the shimmer is hidden due to lack of contrast? Actually, I have. Multiple times. Perhaps it is because I have good eyesight. You do have a point however, some older folks out there with poorer eyesight may not be able to catch them, I admit even for me it was hard. But I still look for that shimmer...and peg 'im before they get close to any blues. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 27	Posted - 2014.03.30 01:08:00 - [44] - Quote I beleive its a great patch. I am loving the Amarr heavy (Sentinel) with Scramble Rifle. Havent tried Medium frame nor Scout. Have tanked a lot thou. I have lost tanks due to AV and other tanks. It is pretty fun now. Although I still fill guilty a bit when I drop one. Amarr Victor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7732	Posted - 2014.03.30 01:33:00 - [45] - Quote @axINVICTUS Good to see you have great eyesight in that case. Should help force a lot of cloak scouts into playing tactfully. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 459	Posted - 2014.03.30 01:42:00 - [46] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Someone needs to cut this out and in the place of scouts , place tanks ... and because of the vehicle changes , we had a increase in HAV usage which caused the " tank spam " and now there's " scout and heavy spam " but I wouldn't call it that really because that doesn't bother me and the fact that I understand that players are trying out new things is always a great thing . Players finding their roles and having fun , is always a good thing . Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 964	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:42:00 - [47] - Quote Game feels much better than before, this is true. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Cinnamon267 119	Posted - 2014.03.30 02:55:00 - [48] - Quote TBdaBoss wrote: Now, bear with me, but this is the first build that so many things have been complained about in the forums. It's a side effect of something that's relatively new to the community: variety. My friend pointed out to me in-game the other day that we are now seeing almost every weapon in the killfeed. I (personally) am not getting killed my one thing repeatedly anymore. I'm being taken out by scouts (cloaked and uncloaked, shotguns and otherwise), heavies, tanks, snipers (read: cnts), mass driver users. etc., and I see that as a good thing. I'm seeing everyone use everything. People are complaining that scouts are the FoTM, but I've seen a relatively balanced number of scouts. People are crying about the tank nerf, but I'm still getting killed by tankers (read: cnts) regularly. Don't get me wrong. There are still glitches and bugs that need to be ironed out, namely the decloaking. There are still plenty of balancing tweaks that need to be done. But for me, this certainly the most balanced build so far. Thoughts? Opinions? Concerns? I agree. I am enjoying this build a lot, actually. I've had some really good matches today. Really fun stuff. Using a Caldari scout is really fun especially with a laser rifle. In fact, the Laser is really fun, now I'm using it more and more. I don't think cloaking is OP. You can pretty easily see it and if you use scan enhancer modules you can see them on your mini-map temporarily. I am enjoying the hell out of my Gallente Commando and Sentinel. Forge Gunning is great fun and tanks aren't an issue for me any more.
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 186	Posted - 2014.03.30 03:03:00 - [49] - Quote Balance is always an illusion


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