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TBdaBoss ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 42	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:23:00 - [1] - Quote Now, bear with me, but this is the first build that so many things have been complained about in the forums. It's a side effect of something that's relatively new to the community: variety. My friend pointed out to me in-game the other day that we are now seeing almost every weapon in the killfeed. I (personally) am not getting killed my one thing repeatedly anymore. I'm being taken out by scouts (cloaked and uncloaked, shotguns and otherwise), heavies, tanks, snipers (read: cnts), mass driver users. etc., and I see that as a good thing. I'm seeing everyone use everything. People are complaining that scouts are the FoTM, but I've seen a relatively balanced number of scouts. People are crying about the tank nerf, but I'm still getting killed by tankers (read: cnts) regularly. Don't get me wrong. There are still glitches and bugs that need to be ironed out, namely the decloaking. There are still plenty of balancing tweaks that need to be done. But for me, this certainly the most balanced build so far. Thoughts? Opinions? Concerns? WE WERE GODS ONCE
Yan Darn Science For Death 436	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:44:00 - [2] - Quote I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment. Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... The Ghost of Bravo
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2215	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:47:00 - [3] - Quote I am enjoying 1.8 and all my problems come from the squad I am in, many don't use coms or even put out squad orders. I like all the changes and with some bug killing I think the game will be the best it has been in a long time. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4532	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:53:00 - [4] - Quote I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. I am your scan error.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 555	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:54:00 - [5] - Quote lol i thought the same thing earlier when i saw 5 fotm threads about diffrent things BACON my recruiter link
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1428	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:55:00 - [6] - Quote Nerf the large railguns, then we can talk about whether it's balanced or not. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2569	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:57:00 - [7] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Nerf the large railguns, then we can talk about whether it's balanced or not. They're already getting nerffed Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6249	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:57:00 - [8] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment (which is how it should be...). Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... You mean old scouts? New Scouts are finally balanced and on par with the other frames. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2475	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:58:00 - [9] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Harpyja wrote: Nerf the large railguns, then we can talk about whether it's balanced or not. They're already getting nerffed They aren't. It's basically a buff. Have fun resisting Railgun's massive damage without decent hardeners! Not like any decent tankers really used them from that kind of range anyway. ak.0 4 LYFE CCP GIB LANCE TURRET PLOX LET ME MELEE PEOPLE WITH MY STEED
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 874	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:02:00 - [10] - Quote -Hums a tune while enjoying another great game of DUST- Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 968	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:04:00 - [11] - Quote Weapon/suit/vehicle mix is still in flux as people experiment with the changes. I think it's a bit too early to tell how it will end up, but overall I agree with the OP that we're seeing much greater diversity on the battlefield. Once the FoTM makes itself known to the community, I suspect we'll see less diversity. Time will tell, but I like what I'm seeing.
lDocHollidayl Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 516	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:05:00 - [12] - Quote My friends and I are all having fun. Great leap CCP.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 906	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:12:00 - [13] - Quote I used a comando with a LASER rifle yesterday... ALL DAY!! because it was so fun. This is definatly the most balanced build yet. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:25:00 - [14] - Quote As someone who uses Sniper suits and also tanks a lot. I learned I am a c*nt. LOL ;-)
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1432	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:38:00 - [15] - Quote best patch ever. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2065	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:41:00 - [16] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I believe scouts are just a trend because of the new cloaks. The majority of scouts I'm seeing are pretty bad, so the numbers of scouts will die down a little. Agreed. I like to call this the "Adamance Effect".
Jaster J F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 5	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:59:00 - [17] - Quote Very well put :D
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 592	Posted - 2014.03.29 16:36:00 - [18] - Quote Best patch yet! #lolcats Volunteer member of the Arkombine, but i don't want out.
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster 350	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:04:00 - [19] - Quote Hated the build the first couple of days. But now I've become one with Dust once again. To Live Is To Die
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 241	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:39:00 - [20] - Quote I feel the Rail rifles are at a pretty good spot right now. I can still put out suppressive fire over cover from a long distance, but I can't just drill through anyone any more. Its good where it is, though its taking some personal adjustment to get used to it. Not really a big CR user, but haven't seen too many on the field lately (except the rare MinAssault or Minommando). The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.

Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 1064	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:49:00 - [21] - Quote Assaults need a buff, bugs need fixing. Other than this, I agree with you. We still need some balancing tweaks though. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 733	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:51:00 - [22] - Quote I love how you're seeing the variety in not just weapons but suits. Has anyone else noticed the matches seem much more balanced then before? I think this is another reason people complain since with the better matches you tend to die more. I've only had one domination where we red lined the other side and they managed to break it after a few minutes. Sure my squad will usually win matches but now they're fun and not just a red line fest half the time like before. ...
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1174	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:53:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment (which is how it should be...). Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... You mean old scouts? New Scouts are finally balanced and on par with the other frames. Really? I think we are OP, but hey I'll keep running scout when I need to take aggressions out on Dust and calmmando when I want a challenge. I know this will be unpopular with most of my fellow forum warriors but I think assaults are fine right now too. Could they be a little better without being OP? Sure. But are they as severely UP as most would have you believe? Not in my opinion Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
killer carrot top Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 105	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:56:00 - [24] - Quote Ccp needs to shut down dust for at least a year so that go in and fix all there **** up and maybe just maybe this game will do well and 1.8 ain't balance minmatar is completely useless again.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1894	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:11:00 - [25] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Atiim wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment (which is how it should be...). Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... You mean old scouts? New Scouts are finally balanced and on par with the other frames. Really? I think we are OP, but hey I'll keep running scout when I need to take aggressions out on Dust and calmmando when I want a challenge. I know this will be unpopular with most of my fellow forum warriors but I think assaults are fine right now too. Could they be a little better without being OP? Sure. But are they as severely UP as most would have you believe? Not in my opinion I personally think this is a great opportunity for CCP. That 'little bit' that the medium frames are needing should be what we get from the basic frame skills. This would fill out the medium frames and give some meaning to those dead sp sink skills that unlock gear use. And agreed with you about the medium frames being okish, Zahle. Even the sver suit with a damper and a precision enhancer manages to scrape by with it's severely gimped tank. I support SP rollover.
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 54	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:13:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I agree there is more variety in pub matches than the forums would suggest. A whole load of things are OP at the moment (which is how it should be...). Except for med frames. I feel sorry for those assaults - they are like the new scouts... You mean old scouts? New Scouts are finally balanced and on par with the other frames. Shots fired lol. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 54	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:14:00 - [27] - Quote I generally agree, I run Amarr scout mostly. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6252	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:16:00 - [28] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Really? I think we are OP, but hey I'll keep running scout when I need to take aggressions out on Dust and calmmando when I want a challenge. I know this will be unpopular with most of my fellow forum warriors but I think assaults are fine right now too. Could they be a little better without being OP? Sure. But are they as severely UP as most would have you believe? Not in my opinion I believe that Scouts are balanced, but the Cloak Fields are a different story. Well that, and their ability to stack HP modules to the point that it negates the Light Frame's main sacrifice.... HP. I don't believe Assaults are underpowered necessarily, just outperformed. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 183	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:21:00 - [29] - Quote Its to early to tell.. They are still hunting for the FOTM combo... Wait a week or two and lets see. But your friend is right, I am seeing the same thing right now. But there is some obvious weak weapons already. Bolt Pistol Ion Pistol These weapons are 100% inferior to other counterparts and quickly will disappear from the field.
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 243	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:50:00 - [30] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Its to early to tell.. They are still hunting for the FOTM combo... Wait a week or two and lets see. But your friend is right, I am seeing the same thing right now. But there is some obvious weak weapons already. Bolt Pistol Ion Pistol These weapons are 100% inferior to other counterparts and quickly will disappear from the field. The Bolt has a glitch in its range right now, but it packs a massive punch. Once that's ironed out it will be the cause of much rage. Haven't tried the Ion yet, but I hear its a decent can of scout-begone. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.



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