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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:45:00 -
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I wonder if a nova knife could one shot a heavy suit.. if both had high and equal skill. |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
155
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:46:00 -
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No |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2062
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:47:00 -
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Nope. Unless they're militia and don't use many health buffers.
Most take a charged swipe, and a regular one. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
179
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:47:00 -
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are you sure? |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:48:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Nope. Unless they're militia and don't use many health buffers.
Most take a charged swipe, and a regular one.
Can you one shot all other suits?
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Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
155
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:49:00 -
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in order to NK a heavy you need Min Scout suit + Ish (Proto) NK. It takes one charge swipe and usually one normal swipe to kill a heavy (975-1400 eHP). It also will take both NK to hit. |
BARDAS
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
936
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:50:00 -
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Proto Knives w/ Prof 5 can get REALLY close I think. The ones I one shot didn't have full health though so I think someone with the maths may better answer. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
180
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:51:00 -
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Thanks guys! very helpful stuff.
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Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:51:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nope. Unless they're militia and don't use many health buffers.
Most take a charged swipe, and a regular one. Can you one shot all other suits?
Again, it takes min scout + ish NK + hitting both swipes of knives to take down a light or medium suit. Although it is possible for logi's to stack very high eHP and therefore you would need two attacks. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
180
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:55:00 -
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Wish the knives were more so a 1 shot kill for all types.. Maybe hard on skilled heavies. I want to try it but when I did before 1.8 I reverted back to the Shotgun because it was more effective.
Also with the knives I had a hard time telling if I was in range. Maybe its different now? |
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Summ Dude
Direct Action Resources
333
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:05:00 -
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I was running my shiny new PRO Gallente Sentinel the other day.....and then I got one-shot. By a PRO Minmatar Scout, with PRO NK. So uh, to answer your original question, yes, yes they can. Bare in mind, I was only running 1 Complex Plate and then 3 Complex Reppers at the time, so I wasn't at my highest possible health. But still, it's definitely possible.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Winn Summ and lose Summ.
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
Dropsuit Samurai
86
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:05:00 -
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Used ZN-28's on a Min Commando or Heavy, using Gal Scout with no mods. It took a charged swipe and 2 R1 swipes to bring him down.
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:04:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Used ZN-28's on a Min Commando or Heavy, using Gal Scout with no mods. It took a charged swipe and 2 R1 swipes to bring him down.
Well that is promising
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4251
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:10:00 -
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Minmatar sentinels yes. Every other sentinel no.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4540
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:20:00 -
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My ishukones say yes.
I am your scan error.
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
91
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:32:00 -
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yes they can . 1922 damage . on my heavy suit yesterday |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
1239
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:11:00 -
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Max damage on a charge swipe is 1613 HP. This is using a Lv5 Minmatar scout with proficiency 5 and three complex damage mods. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:26:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Max damage on a charge swipe is 1613 HP. This is using a Lv5 Minmatar scout with proficiency 5 and three complex damage mods.
odd the other guy said 300 dps more
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
640
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:03:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Max damage on a charge swipe is 1613 HP. This is using a Lv5 Minmatar scout with proficiency 5 and three complex damage mods.
This figure sounds high also.
200 dmg per knife
2 * damage for charge
2* damage for 2 hits (one for each knife)
1.25* for min scout
1.15* for proficiency
~1.12 for 3 complex damage mods
I get around 1288 damage per full charge. I mean thats what the numbers come out for me.
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
191
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:25:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Max damage on a charge swipe is 1613 HP. This is using a Lv5 Minmatar scout with proficiency 5 and three complex damage mods. This figure sounds high also. 200 dmg per knife 2 * damage for charge 2* damage for 2 hits (one for each knife) 1.25* for min scout 1.15* for proficiency ~1.12 for 3 complex damage mods I get around 1288 damage per full charge. I mean thats what the numbers come out for me.
Wow we are all over the map on this :( |
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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:10:00 -
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NK LV5, Prof LV5, Minja LV5:
STD= 1 slash to 1 charged
ADV= 1 charged and possibly an additional slash.
PRO= 1 charged + 1 slash and possibly more or 2 charged.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1220
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:21:00 -
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I've only run into one Gal heavy that I couldn't OHK in my full on minja fit. Ish NK and 3x complex side arm damage mods. (Highly situational suit)
Without the damage mods, fully tanked heavies are 1 charge shot, and one quick strike.
I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
--. . - + ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . -..
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castba
Penguin's March
359
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:32:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Max damage on a charge swipe is 1613 HP. This is using a Lv5 Minmatar scout with proficiency 5 and three complex damage mods. This figure sounds high also. 200 dmg per knife 2 * damage for charge 2* damage for 2 hits (one for each knife) 1.25* for min scout 1.15* for proficiency ~1.12 for 3 complex damage mods I get around 1288 damage per full charge. I mean thats what the numbers come out for me.
Do knives get a bonus against armour?
Whilst I can't be 100% it was one charged swipe, I do know that my Amarr sentinel has been taken down by what felt like a single hit. Was not a tanked fit although had over 1300hp. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
1053
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:42:00 -
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Remember
Charge shot is 2.5x damage. Not 2x
My prof 4 knives plus Min 5 suit and Isik's = exactly 1400 damage.
A few days ago I had the opportunity to knife a Proto Gal Sent. I guess he was fully tanked cus I took out his logi buddy first.
He wet to hack a terminal... I waited with baited breath, hopeing it was possible
Charge.
'Shink'
'Shink'
...Thud
OHK
(only 1 Enhanced dam mod)
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
94
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:56:00 -
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all i know is my kill screen said 1922 could have hit me more then once |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
United Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.30 07:12:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Max damage on a charge swipe is 1613 HP. This is using a Lv5 Minmatar scout with proficiency 5 and three complex damage mods. This figure sounds high also. 200 dmg per knife 2 * damage for charge 2* damage for 2 hits (one for each knife) 1.25* for min scout 1.15* for proficiency ~1.12 for 3 complex damage mods I get around 1288 damage per full charge. I mean thats what the numbers come out for me.
It's 2.5x dmg for charge.
So the way it works is
((((knife base dmg * proficiency) * suit bonus [minmatar scout for example]) * dmg mod 1) * dmg mod 2 with stacking penalty) * dmg mod 3 with stacking penalty = total redefined base damage, * 2.5 for charge.
so 200 * 1.15 = 230 * 1.25 = 287.5 * 1.05 = 301.875 * 1.0435 = 315.0065625 * 1.0285 = 323.98424953125 * 2.5 = 809.960623828125 * 2 (cause 2 swings for a total of) = ~1619.92 dmg |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
191
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Posted - 2014.03.30 07:47:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Max damage on a charge swipe is 1613 HP. This is using a Lv5 Minmatar scout with proficiency 5 and three complex damage mods. This figure sounds high also. 200 dmg per knife 2 * damage for charge 2* damage for 2 hits (one for each knife) 1.25* for min scout 1.15* for proficiency ~1.12 for 3 complex damage mods I get around 1288 damage per full charge. I mean thats what the numbers come out for me. Wow we are all over the map on this :(
thanks |
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