When in scout, I die pretty easily... Cloak can be seen, quite easily if you pay attention and only punishes players who don't. Prototype suits are capable of fitting good stuff, but not much more than a proto assault suit (my proto assault can fit two proto weapons and all proto modules) and is still has over 300 more hp than my scout. Gallente scouts have had a lot of hp for quite some time (I know people who have run 800-1000 hp scout suits) and this isn't out of the ordinary. Sorry that you ran into one and couldn't kill him, but when I would play my assault suit since 1.8, my KDR in it has been a lot higher than in my scout suit. Maybe you should try it and see... for yourself.

QQ... don't be brave and stop telling yourself that you're not QQing.

Anyways, i agree a nerf to 500 armored tanked scouts is needed.

It's normal that you die easily as long as you're playing a scout. And you mustn't play with 800-1000HP in this case. But I think you also noticed that even with an assault suit you get kill really fast so it makes the assault class even more useless if a scout do the same job. Also, I have all skill lvl 5 in PG/CPU stuffs, in sidearms and light weapons etc.. and I'd like to know wich assault class you're playing because it's absolutely impossible to fit 2 proto weapons and only proto modules.

This guy compared both stuffs and it shows how imbalanced those suits are right now: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151393&find=unread

Thanks for replying ^^

id say all thats needed to balance out the cloak a bit further is to give mlt scouts the ability to fit the std one and in turn give all players a type of motion sensor system. so they have eyes in the back of their head. or at least know there behind them.

note:they will not show on sensor if standing still or moving really slow.

There should be a new class of weapon (medium weapon for exemple) with all the actual light weapon except the shotgun (which would be light). And a medium slot could only be fitted with a medium weapon, same for heavy and scout.

Ok so the aim of a scout in Dust 514 is supposed to hack points, to infiltrate and give informartion to its team, and he can protect himself with a shotgun or a nova knife BUT he will always be disadvantaged against an assault player.

WAAAAHHH WAAAAH I SWUCK AT SHOOTING SCOUTS NERF PLOX CCP!!!!!

I'm a scout with zero shotgun skills.

Getting owned constantly but then again its Minmatar scout so it just sucks in general. Its insane CPU means you have to put eWar mods on but it hasn't got a hope in hell of competing with the other scouts - who can brick and eWar.

but what do I know, I'm a ******* idiot.

The main problem with the scouts is the CPU/PG bonus to the cloak that allows them to get to much HP modules. They have equal HP to assaults.

did you steal this idea from me ....?

AAAAAAnnnnnnnnd now comes the real QQ about scouts.

BTW, I have to disagree with you on at least one particular part of your post.

This:


Not "always be disadvantaged" . The purpose of the scout, as you mentioned, is to hack points, infiltrate, and give information. But that's not it's only role. Disruption and total harassment of the enemy is also its role. A newbie of course is unable to use a scout offensively, but in the hands of a seasoned professional the scout is a very powerful offensive weapon. Key words being "seasoned professional". The trick is attacking the enemy from behind without getting caught. Thus scouts are perfect for hit-n-runs picking off the enemy one by one over a long time while the friendly squad mops up the rest. But again, you need to be a seasoned professional which is not something you see every match and requires not only maxed out skill books but also months of experience after trial and error.

Therefore, scouts in the hands of newbies are always disadvantaged against assaults while scouts in the hands of veterans who know what to do are rarely ever disadvantaged against an assault.

Hahaha I'd like to meet you on the battlefield to shut your mouth up :)

Funny how every scout who play as a assault is telling that he knows the scout job. Nop nop nop, light suit isn't called light for fun, it's called light because it's supposed to be light, not medium or heavy ^^
There are few scouts still playing as real scouts and who use the cloak in the way it was meant for. And I respect them. But 90% of the scouts are playing assault just as the old logis. And people like tander09 telling **** like that are just pussies afraid to have their super assault rebalanced.

Well, you got someone like Maken on your thread. He's a closed beta player like myself, and he was stealthing with nova knives long before cloaks were here. Im pretty sure he knows what hes talking about.
Remember, most scouts cant hit HP totals equal to assaults. That 989 total is exclusive to that suit. Also, armor scouts can naturally get more hitpoints since plates are better for capacity than shields.
Before, it didnt matter how much scouts bulked up, they would die just the same, extenders, plates and everything (this was a bad imbalance, that people got used to as the norm). The changes to the proficiency bonuses is making them seem beefier than they really are.
Thats why im saying dont change the scouts, add a profile penalty to the complex level extenders and plates.