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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.03.28 04:40:00 -
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it's pretty simple, really, so this won't be a very long thread. and i really need to get to bed, so i'll make this quick.
the problem is that they already take out all of your shields, so if they deactivated the cloak too, then that would leave the scout completely vulnerable.
"that's how it should be." some of you may think, but think a bit harder. that would only reward brick tanking scouts, and punish all the scouts who decide not to brick tank. do you really want even more brick tanked scouts than we have now? because i don't.
i personally have 77 armor on my scout, because all of my health comes from my shields. i generally run half ewar, half shields mods, and a biotics mod. fluxes are already painful enough when i get hit because all they have to do is hit me like twice from just blind spraying and if i try to run away, i'll be an easy target, so please think about this. fluxes deactivating cloaks will only result in more brick tank fotm scouts, and even less diversity in this game.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.03.28 04:58:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:it's pretty simple, really, so this won't be a very long thread. and i really need to get to bed, so i'll make this quick.
the problem is that they already take out all of your shields, so if they deactivated the cloak too, then that would leave the scout completely vulnerable.
"that's how it should be." some of you may think, but think a bit harder. that would only reward brick tanking scouts, and punish all the scouts who decide not to brick tank. do you really want even more brick tanked scouts than we have now? because i don't.
i personally have 77 armor on my scout, because all of my health comes from my shields. i generally run half ewar, half shields mods, and a biotics mod. fluxes are already painful enough when i get hit because all they have to do is hit me like twice from just blind spraying and if i try to run away, i'll be an easy target, so please think about this. fluxes deactivating cloaks will only result in more brick tank fotm scouts, and even less diversity in this game.
to borrow the scout mantra: are your eye UP. Use situational awareness. pooh pooh.
please word this better, because i have no idea what you're talking about.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 05:53:00 -
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many of you are missing the point. i understand that you should be screwed if you get caught cloaked, but the same argument doesn't apply to BRICK TANKED scouts. of course it applies to me, since i decided to fit my scout like a scout, but what about the many people who have just brick tanked it with 600+ armor and a cloak?
i know the gallente scout is meant to armor tank, as i used to be one pre 1.8, but it's not supposed to have 750 armor and a cloak. that's what i'm getting at. it only punishes those who fit their scout suit like a scout, not the people who abuse it and run it like an assault.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 05:57:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:it's pretty simple, really, so this won't be a very long thread. and i really need to get to bed, so i'll make this quick.
the problem is that they already take out all of your shields, so if they deactivated the cloak too, then that would leave the scout completely vulnerable.
"that's how it should be." some of you may think, but think a bit harder. that would only reward brick tanking scouts, and punish all the scouts who decide not to brick tank. do you really want even more brick tanked scouts than we have now? because i don't.
i personally have 77 armor on my scout, because all of my health comes from my shields. i generally run half ewar, half shields mods, and a biotics mod. fluxes are already painful enough when i get hit because all they have to do is hit me like twice from just blind spraying and if i try to run away, i'll be an easy target, so please think about this. fluxes deactivating cloaks will only result in more brick tank fotm scouts, and even less diversity in this game.
Sorry but you sound like a complete scrub. Cloak equipment is broken so if scouts brick tank let them that's not a problem we have other class who can tank more hp. The problem is the cloak. User should de-cloak when any damage is taken to shield except fall damage as well making to where you can't re-cloak until it is fully recharged.
i don't even know where to start with this comment, so i'm not even gonna bother.
please think before you post. or at least try to be somewhat knowledgable about what you're talking about before calling other people scrubs.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:22:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:it's pretty simple, really, so this won't be a very long thread. and i really need to get to bed, so i'll make this quick.
the problem is that they already take out all of your shields, so if they deactivated the cloak too, then that would leave the scout completely vulnerable.
"that's how it should be." some of you may think, but think a bit harder. that would only reward brick tanking scouts, and punish all the scouts who decide not to brick tank. do you really want even more brick tanked scouts than we have now? because i don't.
i personally have 77 armor on my scout, because all of my health comes from my shields. i generally run half ewar, half shields mods, and a biotics mod. fluxes are already painful enough when i get hit because all they have to do is hit me like twice from just blind spraying and if i try to run away, i'll be an easy target, so please think about this. fluxes deactivating cloaks will only result in more brick tank fotm scouts, and even less diversity in this game.
Sorry but you sound like a complete scrub. Cloak equipment is broken so if scouts brick tank let them that's not a problem we have other class who can tank more hp. The problem is the cloak. User should de-cloak when any damage is taken to shield except fall damage as well making to where you can't re-cloak until it is fully recharged. i don't even know where to start with this comment, so i'm not even gonna bother. please think before you post. or at least try to be somewhat knowledgable about what you're talking about before calling other people scrubs. I didn't say you were a scub I said you sound like a scrub sorry if I hurt your feelings wasn't intended. But you should take your own advice about thinking before you post. Ever since they added aim assist and fixed hit detection how has having high ehp been a problem with ttk being so low. So like I said these brick tanked scouts are not a problem.
i actually did put quite some thought in this post, taking my own experience and also considering the experiences of others. hence why i wrote this post in the first place. it's not for me, as i can deal with fluxes just fine, it's to try to prevent more fotm brick tank scouts.
obviously it's not going to be the end of the world if fluxes disable cloaks, but what many of you don't seem to understand is that if they automatically disable the cloak AND disable your shields, you're only going to see more brick tanked scouts. isn't the goal to minimize fotm and maximize diversity? when people realize that fluxes disable cloaks and shields, they'll start brick tanking as a counter to it.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:34:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:I only played for about 4 hours total since 1.8 released but I have to say that cloaks weren't an issue for me. It's probably just the "I can't be seen and can play recklessly" mentality some of the early FOTM users have, but I was only killed once or twice the whole time from a cloak user. I have not used them myself either.
I'd be ok with the cloaks being turned off by a flux for 2 main reasons: It makes sense realistically and it would make running cloaks more risky.
Realistically, I think all equipment should be on the fritz in the blast radius of a flux grenade.
The only thing keeping me from disagreeing with you entirely is that cloaks do not seem to be as good as the forums made them seem IMO. I'm not constantly being snuck up on, killed, or even surprised by cloak users. The risk of running defenseless does not seem to grant the user too much of an advantage, at least against me (not trying to sound gud but it's just what's happening so far).
Maybe once people figure out the best ways to use cloaks this should be discussed further. At the moment though, I don't think anything needs to change, just the mentality of some of the users.
I'm not pointing fingers at anyone by this ^^^, I'm simply generalizing the FOTM users.
i have absolutely no problem with the cloak now, nor will i do any worse if they decide to make fluxes disable cloaks.
i'm just saying that if that does happen, you'll see many more people going fotm brick scout to counter it.
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