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Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 43	Posted - 2014.03.28 11:29:00 - [31] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: What's wrong with the GalScout? If one chooses not to brick tank it, it seems fairly balanced and Scouty to me.... key words, brick tank. too many people seem to come across ones with lots of hp and shotgun that somehow does 5-600 damage per shot.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7690	Posted - 2014.03.28 11:38:00 - [32] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: What's wrong with the GalScout? If one chooses not to brick tank it, it seems fairly balanced and Scouty to me.... key words, brick tank. too many people seem to come across ones with lots of hp and shotgun that somehow does 5-600 damage per shot. But that means those brick tanked scouts are sacrificing a lot of passive scan range and profile just to tank. They will be mostly blind. Looks alright to me. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 1779	Posted - 2014.03.28 12:29:00 - [33] - Quote 80 meters, huh? What's your loadout? So what happens when you pick somehing up? How well does a low-speed, low-hp, low-stealth scout perform in combat? @ Regnums Anyone with a gun can counter a Scout. How many things can counter a Tank?
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1269	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:31:00 - [34] - Quote pink FLUFF wrote: I hate to say this, but Gal and Caldari scout need a slight debuff. The 80m Scan radius is nuts, way too good. Assault or Scout with a 80m passive? Scout. How do we fix this? Well, have caldari get a boost to picking up amarr, amarr a boost against gallante, gallente against minmatar, and minmatar against amarr. This would give players a reason to go into a specific scout. Think of EVE and ECM and ECCM. You could hide from X person but not X. I have a properly fitted Cal Scout for hunting down a certain someone... I Have about 400+ EHP.... So i have to be extremely careful about my choice... It's not like i can run a 800hp Scout, that would beat the purpose.... Have commandos for that... Few interesting things i've seen though Gal Commando + Cloak and CR = Pain in the ass Min Logi + Cloak + REs = Tank killer
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 756	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:13:00 - [35] - Quote OP is dumb. You can't attain 80m passive, you have to invest in 2 complex range amps to get 75m, which is max for the Cal, filling your low slots and therefore no "brick tank" Even if you fill all your high slots with complex shields you still have less hp than an assault or logi from the same meta level and good luck fitting a decent weapon or sidearm. As others have said, this is nothing new. In fact the Gal could had even greater scan radius in 1.7 as its bonus was 10% per level, instead of just 5%. LOL @ shotgun being OP. CR still takes the cake on DPS. CR = 683dps AR=475dps RR=457dps Magsec=450dps Shotgun=73dps per pellet (8, half of which usually dont hit) PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube
RendonaSix In Aliena Amarr Legionem 47	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:16:00 - [36] - Quote Nerf the gallente and minmatar suits, sounds good. They are op lol. Edit: nerf that scum, amarr and caldari are fine. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
pseudosnipre Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 650	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:29:00 - [37] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Oh, I should also like to point out the ONLY WAY to get 80+ meter scan radius passively is to run 3 Complex Range Amplifiers at the same time and ask yourself how many Scouts are going to sacrifice their lows for that? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvYSJ6FRJlihdHRWMFFxUDVPbzZPVTdjZmNwR2loYXc&amp;usp=sharing#gid=1 ^This guy. 240 ehp. Fair trade. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you. BitterVet the turkey says GOML GOML GOML
Yan Darn Science For Death 424	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:32:00 - [38] - Quote pink FLUFF wrote: I hate to say this, but Gal and Caldari scout need a slight debuff. The 80m Scan radius is nuts, way too good. Assault or Scout with a 80m passive? Scout. How do we fix this? Well, have caldari get a boost to picking up amarr, amarr a boost against gallante, gallente against minmatar, and minmatar against amarr. This would give players a reason to go into a specific scout. Think of EVE and ECM and ECCM. You could hide from X person but not X. I didn't even realise you could get 80m on a Caldari. Just in case people don't understand the OPs point. With all the current balancing problems between scouts and assaults. He wants to lower the effectiveness of replacing plates in lows with range amps. The range is pretty much the same as it was 1.7. The ability to see more. On a scout. Is what needs nerfing apparently. Actually no, this is so irrational I have to call troll. The Ghost of Bravo
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1289	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:38:00 - [39] - Quote pink FLUFF wrote: I hate to say this, but Gal and Caldari scout need a slight debuff. The 80m Scan radius is nuts, way too good. Assault or Scout with a 80m passive? Scout. How do we fix this? Think of EVE and ECM and ECCM. You could hide from X person but not X. (Caldari assault weighing in) If someone is willing to fit the modules necessary to get passive scan ranges like that, then let them. I don't mind the recon, sneaky, scouting role in the game being great at gathering intelligence. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1251	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:40:00 - [40] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Dexter307 wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: The scout portion of this community is just acting like the Tankers right after 1.7 Seriously, the parallels between threads and even certain word choice is striking. (Whisper) FYI the new FOTM is the Scout+Cloak+SG combo Huh, i dont think i see enough scouts for that to be true Seems like heavies are the more popular option right now. shotguns are definetly not FOTM,thats just silly. The vast majority of scouts I see run the combat rifle. >See Think really hard about this. You can see cloaked scouts Most matches I play have no more than 2 or 3 scouts Everyone used it right when it came out because it was new

Horizen Kenpachi Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 241	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:42:00 - [41] - Quote 80meters = squishy u obviously could get good range on the others so no. Not everyone has cor skills maxed Hit me with your nerf bat.
Marc Rime 335	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:01:00 - [42] - Quote I don't really see the problem with suits specialized at scanning getting that kind of range with full skills and a third of their slots dedicated to boosting that very stat. Besides, it's quite possible to kill them without getting within their scan radius. Anyway, if their base range or bonus is nerfed it will become almost useless unless you equip two range amps. They should, however, buff the passive scanner range of all suits, at least a bit. I want players to become reliant on their scanners since it makes them easier to sneak up on with low enough sig profile ;).
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 147	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:03:00 - [43] - Quote pink FLUFF wrote: I hate to say this, but Gal and Caldari scout need a slight debuff. The 80m Scan radius is nuts, way too good. Assault or Scout with a 80m passive? Scout. How do we fix this? Well, have caldari get a boost to picking up amarr, amarr a boost against gallante, gallente against minmatar, and minmatar against amarr. This would give players a reason to go into a specific scout. Think of EVE and ECM and ECCM. You could hide from X person but not X. Cal can pick up all, also why have caldari a boost on picking on ammar? Gallante is our enemy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7694	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:38:00 - [44] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: pink FLUFF wrote: I hate to say this, but Gal and Caldari scout need a slight debuff. The 80m Scan radius is nuts, way too good. Assault or Scout with a 80m passive? Scout. How do we fix this? Well, have caldari get a boost to picking up amarr, amarr a boost against gallante, gallente against minmatar, and minmatar against amarr. This would give players a reason to go into a specific scout. Think of EVE and ECM and ECCM. You could hide from X person but not X. I didn't even realise you could get 80m on a Caldari. Just in case people don't understand the OPs point. With all the current balancing problems between scouts and assaults. He wants to lower the effectiveness of replacing plates in lows with range amps. The range is pretty much the same as it was 1.7. The ability to see more. On a scout. Is what needs nerfing apparently. Actually no, this is so irrational I have to call troll. I was about to flame you like Gordon Ramsey until I read the last line of your post. Lol Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1097	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:40:00 - [45] - Quote pink FLUFF wrote: I hate to say this, but Gal and Caldari scout need a slight debuff. The 80m Scan radius is nuts, way too good. Assault or Scout with a 80m passive? Scout. How do we fix this? Well, have caldari get a boost to picking up amarr, amarr a boost against gallante, gallente against minmatar, and minmatar against amarr. This would give players a reason to go into a specific scout. Think of EVE and ECM and ECCM. You could hide from X person but not X. No precision with gallante, i think the caldari is your problem. *Assassination is my thing.*


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