if your good at spotting then u should be good at hiding as well becuase the scout would have a cloak and be able to see enemy positions thus hiding

I was thinking about this some more and I think I have a decent solution without a lot of work required.

If you pull the trigger with the cloak out you use it and go cloaked (i assume, i havent used it persay) and start using your cloak energy.

If you pull the trigger while cloaked you uncloak and it recharges normally.

If you pull out your weapon while cloaked, you destabilize the field, forcing the unit to purge its internal capacitor (i.e. you lose all stored cloak energy) and the unit has to go through a 3-5 second restart cycle at which point it can start charging again.

So you still give scouts the ability to swap out of cloak but you make them pay a price for it.

Risk vs. Reward - a very 'New Eden' philosophy.

Been testing out bpo dragonfly scout suit, fitting even the most basic junk on it and still being able to take out protos, and advanced.

Running basic cloak, militia shotty, militia cpu module. Cost 4k total. No skills into shotguns or scout suits.

It seems scouts have the best of both worlds stealthy and damage, though its the stealth which allows them to get in close to cause the damage. So doing something to one or the other wont work in my eyes.


The problem seems to be that other suits need to lose all the modules they usually use in place of profile amps and precisions just to see them or try to hide from them. They need to either be hard to find, or be able spot enemies easily, not both least not on the same suit. Make 2 suits good at hiding and 2 good at spotting.

I know people are going to say they are scouts and thats there role, but i think taking one advantage away like that may balance them out without taking something that will cripple them away.


Anywho, I dont have much problem with them since Im testing a radarfit which is able to spot any scout cloaked or not, my only downside is i cant hide from them at the same time, which in turn is why im unable to constantly ruin scouts plans, (which is good) I dont want 100% counter to them, though some wps for bring a dedicated radar would be nice, not sure how but yeah.

I tried to keep it short, just my thoughts.


What do scout users think of that?, no need to be nasty about either. Sacrificing either stealthiness, or your scanning precision depending on your scout suit. So that you dont have both, instead of a damage, slot or something else nerf?

I think it sounds reasonable

Time wasn't wasted.

The fitting issue is separate topic at this moment and needs it own discussion.

Decloak speed wont alter much of the game play still as scouts will quickly learn on how to covertly decloak out of earshot and still put two fresh plasma slugs into the back.

Stealth Value is looking like a more acceptable nerf by the day. If scouts want to really go unseen they should look towards fitting damps. This is currently based on how people have nearly stopped using scanners; how even some super fitted scan scouts still can't see these guys cloaked.

Management of charge right now is nearly mindless. The time cloaked can be nearly equal to the time spent engaging making running out of cloak or waiting on the cloak a non issue with the weaker cloaks (which is probably discouraging the use of the prototype)

Rest of the things are going to require a patch if ever seriously considered.

Cloaks have to be fun for the people who are not cloaking, currently its not; not by a long shot.

Number of threads generated a daily suggests otherwise... And the majority if I was to use such base means wants cloaks deleted.

Also I am not a game designer; nor product owner, I cannot dictate development energy.

I won't give you hate, but I will point out that your position today is the exact opposite of what it was only a few days ago.

You should quote yourself, then argue.
That'd be fun. Fun and appropriate.

Starts hack in one of those nook capture points;
turn around
wait
profit.

problem is it works on more often on non cloaked targets.