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Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1244	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:18:00 - [1] - Quote Long range dosent matter if it cant kill anything 210 dps is not ok 200 damage at basic and change operations skill to reduce charge time is how i would fix it
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 142	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:21:00 - [2] - Quote Yes +1000000000
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 588	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:31:00 - [3] - Quote To me it doesn't have enough range right now, and that's all it actually needs currently. But that's just me, the damage it gives currently seems good enough to me. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1244	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:11:00 - [4] - Quote da GAND wrote: To me it doesn't have enough range right now, and that's all it actually needs currently. But that's just me, the damage it gives currently seems good enough to me. Part of that is that the bolt pistol and ion pistol have there ranges glitched, that should be fixed soon. It just kills to slowly to be effective The magsec kills faster at pretty much all ranges so a damage buff would be really nice
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 594	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:17:00 - [5] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: da GAND wrote: To me it doesn't have enough range right now, and that's all it actually needs currently. But that's just me, the damage it gives currently seems good enough to me. Part of that is that the bolt pistol and ion pistol have there ranges glitched, that should be fixed soon. It just kills to slowly to be effective The magsec kills faster at pretty much all ranges so a damage buff would be really nice oh well good to know that it's just a glitch right now, it doesn't need more damage. But a skill to reduce the recharge would definitely make it more effective not OP like some might say. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2224	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:19:00 - [6] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Long range dosent matter if it cant kill anything 210 dps is not ok 200 damage at basic and change operations skill to reduce charge time is how i would fix it Short range dosent matter if it cant kill anything 325 dps is not ok 70 damage at basic and change the whole freaking thing For the bolt pistol The charge between shots should be removed then it will do 354 DPS. FIXED For the Federation!
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1152	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:23:00 - [7] - Quote DJINN Marauder seems to disagree with you. Me in my ADS: 1,2
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1244	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:27:00 - [8] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Long range dosent matter if it cant kill anything 210 dps is not ok 200 damage at basic and change operations skill to reduce charge time is how i would fix it Short range dosent matter if it cant kill anything 325 dps is not ok 70 damage at basic and change the whole freaking thing For the bolt pistol The charge between shots should be removed then it will do 354 DPS. FIXED I would prefer increased damage to more ROF
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3713	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:31:00 - [9] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Long range dosent matter if it cant kill anything 210 dps is not ok 200 damage at basic and change operations skill to reduce charge time is how i would fix it C'mon people, are you expecting a Rail Rifle? I'd prefer to lose the individual charges, and the fitting requirements are a little bizarre, but I've been taking out medium frames with 4 shots FFS. P.s. this may be quite an obscure use for the weapon, but it's a OHK for equipment. Very satisfying. No.
Cinder Integ Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 146	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:37:00 - [10] - Quote It's a side arm, it's more effect to armor, and its 148.5 base damage (891 base damage / clip)... stop using it like a heavy/ hmg combo, running into a firestorm thinking a side arm is going to stand toe to toe with a light weapon. Trading Carrots for Isk! Come and Get em!

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5368	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:42:00 - [11] - Quote Cinder Integ wrote: It's a side arm, it's more effect to armor, and its 148.5 base damage (891 base damage / clip)... stop using it like a heavy/ hmg combo, running into a firestorm thinking a side arm is going to stand toe to toe with a light weapon. Yes and no sidearms very well have the ability of going toe to toe with a light weapon, however unlike the light weapons they have strict restrictions they must follow making them a more skill based weapon to master and be useful in. You can and will go double digits with a sidearm, it's just harder. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 596	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:42:00 - [12] - Quote Cinder Integ wrote: It's a side arm, it's more effect to armor, and its 148.5 base damage (891 base damage / clip)... stop using it like a heavy/ hmg combo, running into a firestorm thinking a side arm is going to stand toe to toe with a light weapon. dude that's what I do, got my hmg with the bolt pistol on my Minmatar heavy and It works fine lol. CCP just has to get the range glitch on it fixed and it'll be even great for me. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 485	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:46:00 - [13] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cinder Integ wrote: It's a side arm, it's more effect to armor, and its 148.5 base damage (891 base damage / clip)... stop using it like a heavy/ hmg combo, running into a firestorm thinking a side arm is going to stand toe to toe with a light weapon. Yes and no sidearms very well have the ability of going toe to toe with a light weapon, however unlike the light weapons they have strict restrictions they must follow making them a more skill based weapon to master and be useful in. You can and will go double digits with a sidearm, it's just harder. why do they require same amount of SP?
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1983	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:47:00 - [14] - Quote Its a SECONDARY WEAPON: SIDEARM I ain't got time for dat sh!t At least I'm not King ThunderBolt
Cinder Integ Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 147	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:47:00 - [15] - Quote da GAND wrote: Cinder Integ wrote: It's a side arm, it's more effect to armor, and its 148.5 base damage (891 base damage / clip)... stop using it like a heavy/ hmg combo, running into a firestorm thinking a side arm is going to stand toe to toe with a light weapon. dude that's what I do, got my hmg with the bolt pistol on my Minmatar heavy and It works fine lol. CCP just has to get the range glitch on it fixed and it'll be even great for me. Two weapons are better than one, people are trying to open up with a sidearm that is effective against armor... comon now Trading Carrots for Isk! Come and Get em!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13790	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:49:00 - [16] - Quote The only buff I'd like to see tried is the auto charge full then fire on single trigger pull instead of having to hold it down. Screws with my cadence quite a bit. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 596	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:49:00 - [17] - Quote Cinder Integ wrote: da GAND wrote: Cinder Integ wrote: It's a side arm, it's more effect to armor, and its 148.5 base damage (891 base damage / clip)... stop using it like a heavy/ hmg combo, running into a firestorm thinking a side arm is going to stand toe to toe with a light weapon. dude that's what I do, got my hmg with the bolt pistol on my Minmatar heavy and It works fine lol. CCP just has to get the range glitch on it fixed and it'll be even great for me. Two weapons are better than one, people are trying to open up with a sidearm that is effective against armor... comon now hey it still works fine for me lol, doesn't need a buff or nerf just fix the range glitch CCP. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1244	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:56:00 - [18] - Quote da GAND wrote: Cinder Integ wrote: da GAND wrote: Cinder Integ wrote: It's a side arm, it's more effect to armor, and its 148.5 base damage (891 base damage / clip)... stop using it like a heavy/ hmg combo, running into a firestorm thinking a side arm is going to stand toe to toe with a light weapon. dude that's what I do, got my hmg with the bolt pistol on my Minmatar heavy and It works fine lol. CCP just has to get the range glitch on it fixed and it'll be even great for me. Two weapons are better than one, people are trying to open up with a sidearm that is effective against armor... comon now hey it still works fine for me lol, doesn't need a buff or nerf just fix the range glitch CCP. It really does need a fix. The DPS is so outclassed by every other sidearm, including the magsec which is better at all ranges Having the bolt pistol be the slowest killing gun in the game makes no sence.
Cinder Integ Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 148	Posted - 2014.03.28 03:57:00 - [19] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: It really does need a fix. The DPS is so outclassed by every other sidearm, including the magsec which is better at all ranges Having the bolt pistol be the slowest killing gun in the game makes no sence. Me thinking you just can't shoot... Sorry. I be dropping foes with ease via standard bolt pistol Trading Carrots for Isk! Come and Get em!
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 94	Posted - 2014.03.28 04:07:00 - [20] - Quote I'm using a std MagSec (just level 1 skill) and SMG on a STD mini suit for this event ... It's a cheap outfit and I normally don't use the SMG as I'm still testing the Mag. I might have to try out the bolt gun paired with the Mag. FYI I use two sidearms because it focuses me much more. And with prof 2 in SMGs I can hold my own with surprise.

Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 213	Posted - 2014.03.28 04:30:00 - [21] - Quote Its a wonderful weaponGÇªso wonderful I'm afraid it might be nerfed soon. It strips most shields in 2 shots and armor goes soon after. Its great for my scout paired with either a magsec or Nova Knives. This thing has power. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1247	Posted - 2014.03.28 05:09:00 - [22] - Quote Cinder Integ wrote: Dexter307 wrote: It really does need a fix. The DPS is so outclassed by every other sidearm, including the magsec which is better at all ranges Having the bolt pistol be the slowest killing gun in the game makes no sence. Me thinking you just can't shoot... Sorry. I be dropping foes with ease via standard bolt pistol Sure you can kill merc with it, but you can kill them easier with other guns
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1247	Posted - 2014.03.28 05:14:00 - [23] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: Its a wonderful weaponGÇªso wonderful I'm afraid it might be nerfed soon. It strips most shields in 2 shots and armor goes soon after. Its great for my scout paired with either a magsec or Nova Knives. This thing has power. If anything its going to get buffed
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 607	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:10:00 - [24] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Cinder Integ wrote: Dexter307 wrote: It really does need a fix. The DPS is so outclassed by every other sidearm, including the magsec which is better at all ranges Having the bolt pistol be the slowest killing gun in the game makes no sence. Me thinking you just can't shoot... Sorry. I be dropping foes with ease via standard bolt pistol Sure you can kill merc with it, but you can kill them easier with other guns The only problem with the bolt pistol is when trying to land the shot on someone, that range glitch. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1253	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:12:00 - [25] - Quote da GAND wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Cinder Integ wrote: Dexter307 wrote: It really does need a fix. The DPS is so outclassed by every other sidearm, including the magsec which is better at all ranges Having the bolt pistol be the slowest killing gun in the game makes no sence. Me thinking you just can't shoot... Sorry. I be dropping foes with ease via standard bolt pistol Sure you can kill merc with it, but you can kill them easier with other guns The only problem with the bolt pistol is when trying to land the shot on someone, that range glitch. The low DPS is a problem when the magsec has a similar range and much higher DPS It should do 200 dmg at basic 210 at advanced 220 at proto That would give it at least 300 DPS
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1232	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:20:00 - [26] - Quote I feel it needs it's charge time reduced. It's just too slow to be able to take care of people effectively. I'm still getting used to it but, the RoF is just horible Plasma Cannon Advocate Heavy event survivor
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1257	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:41:00 - [27] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: I feel it needs it's charge time reduced. It's just too slow to be able to take care of people effectively. I'm still getting used to it but, the RoF is just horible Removing having charge every shot and making it like the other rail guns where you only have to charge the first shot would be nice Otherwise increase it's DMG to 200
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 607	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:48:00 - [28] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: I feel it needs it's charge time reduced. It's just too slow to be able to take care of people effectively. I'm still getting used to it but, the RoF is just horible Removing having charge every shot and making it like the other rail guns where you only have to charge the first shot would be nice Otherwise increase it's DMG to 200 I'd rather have the charging up removed Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt 467	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:52:00 - [29] - Quote Knowing how CCP does things, it'd be better off if they left it alone lol.. you get used to the charge anyway, and it feels damn good killing with it. I'd say to buff the range since it's rail tech, but then again it's a sidearm. #Dud514
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 329	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:58:00 - [30] - Quote I like the Bolt pistol as is and wouldn't change it. I like that I can stop holding the trigger mid charge and it not fire. Sometimes I'm not sure if I want to commit and I would waste so much ammo without that feature. If it does have a range glitch right now I'd be excited to see it in action cause it seams like long range isn't connecting. It works great the way it is I hope the changes don't effect to much cause mid range it's a nasty little smack. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!



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