Had a situation with 2 assholes putting in a concerted effort chasing me around a box in an Ambush. They shot me a few times, but I was able to outmaneuver them and separate enough distance to turn around and finish them with the sniper rifle.

In all this, my cloak did not fail, and I am wonderously happy about that.
Please dont let our cloaks break if we get shot.

Had a situation with 2 assholes putting in a concerted effort chasing me around a box in an Ambush. They shot me a few times, but I was able to outmaneuver them and separate enough distance to turn around and finish them with the sniper rifle.

In all this, my cloak did not fail, and I am wonderously happy about that.
Please dont let our cloaks break if we get shot.

i agree, but, ive been thinking, and maybe our coaks should turn off and have to cool down if we are in the pulse of a flux grenade. it makes sense, flux grenades are supposed to be anti-electronic anyways. it would make being a scout a bit more fun.

i support cloaks. the time duration might be a little off though.

i agree, but, ive been thinking, and maybe our coaks should turn off and have to cool down if we are in the pulse of a flux grenade. it makes sense, flux grenades are supposed to be anti-electronic anyways. it would make being a scout a bit more fun.

Had a situation with 2 assholes putting in a concerted effort chasing me around a box in an Ambush. They shot me a few times, but I was able to outmaneuver them and separate enough distance to turn around and finish them with the sniper rifle.

In all this, my cloak did not fail, and I am wonderously happy about that.
Please dont let our cloaks break if we get shot.

i support cloaks. the time duration might be a little off though.

Says the armour tanker.

I've been toying around with the cloak lately to see why it's all the rage and I've noticed that the only real problem, as stated by others, is that you can shoot far too quickly after decloaking.

I can switch to my shotgun and blast someone in the face while I'm still cloaked. Sure, switching to a weapon turns off the cloak but it doesn't really make any difference when I can get a fatal shot out before the decloaking animation is even finished.

A delay between deactivation and shooting is all that I think is needed. However, I rarely use the cloak anyway, so I don't really care what happens to it. If anything, at all.

the time duration is too short, on a basic cloaking device at least. the proto is pretty good, the advanced is... meh.


but i can hardly SPRINT 200M before the standard one has to cool down. in order to have a good amount of invisible time with the basic one, youliterally have to be at your destination and then you have to hide, activate the cloak, ect.

This I disagree with. Its part of why cloaked ambushes are so effective....... usually.... for me its been taking waaay too long for people to die.
In my experience, the decloak hasnt made a difference. The only attack thats really working for the scouts is the decloak shotgun. Nothing else works. Decloaking to attack with any weapon doesnt do high alpha is suicide. You HAVE to use a shotgun, nova knives, or sniper rifle for it to work. Ive decloaked on people with the gal ar, and scrambler, and more often then not, they just turn around and light me up.
The ttk is enormous now, with the nerfs to proficiencies, so unless the damage is tremendous and sudden, a scout simply wont win, even if he gets the drop on you.

I've been toying around with the cloak lately to see why it's all the rage and I've noticed that the only real problem, as stated by others, is that you can shoot far too quickly after decloaking.

I can switch to my shotgun and blast someone in the face while I'm still cloaked. Sure, switching to a weapon turns off the cloak but it doesn't really make any difference when I can get a fatal shot out before the decloaking animation is even finished.

A delay between deactivation and shooting is all that I think is needed. However, I rarely use the cloak anyway, so I don't really care what happens to it. If anything, at all.

This I disagree with. Its part of why cloaked ambushes are so effective....... usually.... for me its been taking waaay too long for people to die.
In my experience, the decloak hasnt made a difference. The only attack thats really working for the scouts is the decloak shotgun. Nothing else works. Decloaking to attack with any weapon doesnt do high alpha is suicide. You HAVE to use a shotgun, nova knives, or sniper rifle for it to work. Ive decloaked on people with the gal ar, and scrambler, and more often then not, they just turn around and light me up.
The ttk is enormous now, with the nerfs to proficiencies, so unless the damage is tremendous and sudden, a scout simply wont win, even if he gets the drop on you.

Why are they able to kill you if you have the drop on them? Sentinels I can understand because of the ridiculously high Hp, but any other suit, should be dead before you have to reload. And scouts have similar fittings to assaults/logis, so they should be (and are able to) get very similar HP.

Also, what possible tactic could counter "alpha-cloaks"?

Just lower the CPU/PG bonus on the cloak so the scouts can't have same HP with Assaults!!!

I think the better option would be a buff to assaults, as they have more problems than having to go up with tanked scouts.

You're not supposed to counter alpha-cloaks. They have successfully "snuck up on you and you deserve to die".

Funny how that works huh?

quoting to put emphasis on an important point.

Sometimes you just get got.

I think "just getting got" is fine.
Same as how you can be insta-fragged by a sniper you never knew was there. Or being a non-AV infantry up against a tank.

Thing though is there are counters to snipers and tanks (Okay, AV-imbalance issue, but still.).
There is very little you can do to counter Cloaked Scouts. There is no anti-cloak fit.
The Active Scanner should be a valid counter, but the Cloak makes you invisible to scanners as well as eyes.

Remove the Scan Profile reduction from the Cloak. Make it so complete stealth requires becoming squishy/slow by sacrificing a Low or two to Dampeners.

This is coming from a Proto Cloaked Scout.
Being untouchable isn't fun. Going up against other Scouts who are untouchable isn't fun
Where's my kryptonite?
What's the point of being a cobra if there's no mongoose?

I have a focused scanner on my cal scout, and I detect other scouts just fine.

Again, the only thing I would do is add a profile penalty to complex shield extenders and armor plates. COMPLEX-only, because those are the ones making the scouts durable. If they want to tank up, you get to see them coming.