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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:53:00 -
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This weapon need a better effective range, its like only 5 meters and the optimal is only 30. Range per tier needs to be higher, 35 for STD, 38 for ADV and 42 for PRO. The full charge is fine, the heat build up is a bit too high, cool down is too high, ROF is too low, a scrambler pistol had more and that was fine.
PROS
- Full charge can help take down enemy shields for teammates.
- Surprisingly higher zoom than scrambler pistol
CONS
- Instant over heat when full charge shot.
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:59:00 -
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Low ROF? It has the highest ROF of ALL the pistols.
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
698
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:02:00 -
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The only real issue I have with the Ion pistol, which turned out to be surprisingly fun to use, is that the overheat mechanic--its truly defining characteristic--imposes too high a penalty and too slow a charge time to be used in "heated" CQC combat.
I mean, someone pulls out their sidearm when they run out of the clip on their main weapon and are trying to finish someone off. Having a 1.45 sec charge time on a finishing weapon doesn't sit well. Combine that with the fact that plasma weapons gain bonuses to shield (not going to be present in a finishing situation), you really don't have time to charge it when dueling, with the fact that the range is so close, and the charge mechanic--what makes it unique--is really negated in CQC. So, you end up with a fun pistol that just functions as a "regular" extremely short range pistol when it's being used in its element.
And for "regular" sidearm finishing weapons, there's better alternatives. Bolt pistols fire hard-hitting, bonus-damage-to-armor rounds, and SMGs and Magsecs do bonus damage to armor and are fully automatic.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:14:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:Low ROF? It has the highest ROF of ALL the pistols. For a pistol i'd say 500 ROF is high like the old ScP.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:27:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Delta90212 wrote:Low ROF? It has the highest ROF of ALL the pistols. For a pistol i'd say 500 ROF is high like the old ScP. Anything that caps when I get a finger seizure is not high.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11824
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:29:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:Low ROF? It has the highest ROF of ALL the pistols. Which isn't saying much.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1139
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Posted - 2014.03.29 17:18:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Delta90212 wrote:Low ROF? It has the highest ROF of ALL the pistols. Which isn't saying much. Can't kill anything other than MLTs with it.
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Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:27:00 -
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I like to do a partial charge (about 1/3 of the way) and fire at least 2 normal shots, stop shooting for a split second, then repeat. It's a strange weapon, but there are several forms of using it. I'm not too good with it yet, but I'm just experimenting at the moment to see how I can get it to work. |
Patrick57
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:28:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:34:00 -
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I used it to take out scouts that get too close. Works out pretty well. One shot one kill 90% of the time.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:35:00 -
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In reply to OP's request for different ranges ... ain't gonna happen.
All weapons work the same in particular to range. Increased level of weapon varies damage at the increase of CPU/PG/Cost (both SP and ISK). Modifying it for a single type of pistol isn't in the cards. Can you imagine the QQ flood about getting out gunned with their STD ion pistol by every ADV and PRO version they ran into. Which would be not only true but a bad balance technique.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4540
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:38:00 -
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Unless a weapon is easy to overheat with normal fire, CCP is afraid to make the RoF too high. Modded controllers and such.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:41:00 -
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I have also found a bug where the Ion Pistol overheats in regular firing.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.29 18:44:00 -
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Bolt and ion pistol both need more damage |
The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:07:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Bolt and ion pistol both need more damage
All the pistols need buffing in various ways. I'm of the opinion that sidearms shouldn't be forced into the finisher niche (they certainly weren't before, except maybe the post-nerf Flaylock), but given that most are unable to comfortably solo anything more than non-bricked lights and militia/standard mediums in a clip now, it seems that's where they're resigned. I'd imagine CCP is using this event to collect data and will (hopefully) tweak them all afterwards.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1141
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:08:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I have also found a bug where the Ion Pistol overheats in regular firing. Yes sometimes when you're emptying you're clip it doesn't reload but charges up for some reason...
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Unless a weapon is easy to overheat with normal fire, CCP is afraid to make the RoF too high. Modded controllers and such. It will be useless with modded controllers because of the charge up.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1141
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:11:00 -
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Temias Mercurial wrote:I like to do a partial charge (about 1/3 of the way) and fire at least 2 normal shots, stop shooting for a split second, then repeat. It's a strange weapon, but there are several forms of using it. I'm not too good with it yet, but I'm just experimenting at the moment to see how I can get it to work. I know, its why CCP made the bonus.
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