DUST Search - Request:Rep Tool healing feedback

BrownEye1129 wrote:

anaboop wrote:

BrownEye1129 wrote:

As a dual beam Rep Tool user, no way do I want the second beam repping myself! I use the dual beam so I can stay on a heavy and heal anyone that is smart enough to fall back after taking damage. Plus heal more people quicker. I logi for my SQUAD not just a heavy. Honestly I'm not having the same problem as all the other repping logis. If you are using a core focused well you are asking to take damage. Also if you are "only" following heavies around repping you are asking to be cannon fodder. Repping is there to "SUPPORT".

Heal the damaged not make people invincible. You can pull off or refuse to follow a heavy into a hot zone bc he thinks he is invincible. Heavies like a Logi on them at all time but is not required unless the situation calls for it. (Heavy blocking a door way) A good heavy/player in general isn't going to step out in the open and absorb an entire squads damage unless nessacary.

I've been a Logi since the start of my Dust career and got to say you "new" logis are complainers. You look/act like lemmings! Mindlessly following a heavy around never breaking that leash. Instead of doing you job and repping your entire squad.

Heavies have a high HP Pool and can survive 1v1 1v2 engagements with out a logi repping him through it. You are crying for "Easy Mode" which I hope and pray CCP doesn't give in to.

Im sorry but you contridicted yourself, check the bold. While I agree on the second beam not on yourself, I believe we need some defence against not what the person your repping is doing but the others that come at you from say behind or that cloak past the person your repping just to take you out, where you have no chance to get your gun out in time or to even ask for help on the mic as its usually to late. Yes u can run but that results in the same fate from the person your repping to.

Let me try to clarify. When I am running logi I run between my squadmates. If the heavy is taking the majority of the damage I try to stay on him. If not then I try to find whoever is damage or firing for the extra guardian points. The point I was trying to make: A new wave of logistics is on the battle field. Their SOLE purpose is to put a leash on a heavy and never leave. These people seem to be the ones crying and complaining about a logis survivability.

Of course logis are going to get focus fire they are the squads life support. It is up to the remaining "5" squad members to help keep the logi on his feet. This seriously isn't a problem with proper teamwork. People always say this is a team game, but don't act like it and complain when it doesn't work.

Only game mode that is deathmatch is ambush. With the other two there is no reason for your squadmates to be across the map slaying the stray enemy. If you squad is actually working together, scouts flank/drift farther away, assaults/slayers support the logi/heavy you will find you don't die as often. It is when people start worrying about chasing and killing everything they see that logis have a problem. It is your squad that needs a buff not the logi. They are leaving their medic vulnerable.


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anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 10	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:53:00 - [1] - Quote Im inclined to agree, since im a pure logi, with zero weapon skills but my bpo smg which I rely on when im stuck on my own, any decent player will target the logi first and with the limited range on the rep tool some kind of defence would be nice, people will say stand behind someone but thats impossible unless u both want to be sitting ducks which in turn will see u slaughtered from a different angle. I like the idea of the 50% heal on urself while healing someone else but find it hard to be popular to other roles, the 2 target system being able to target yourself wouldnt really work, unless the core focus has 2 targets which wont happen. Maybe even a boost in armor resistances to urself or this may be pushing it lmao but why not self cloak when u rep someone (only while repping) . Was repping someone yesterday only to be slaughtered by people cloaked with no chance of being able to fight back or being able to ask for help.
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 10	Posted - 2014.03.28 03:37:00 - [2] - Quote Me too, im sick of dying so easily with no means of defence. Noone on your squad or team can help either without sacrificing themselves which in turn is the end of the logi again. Equipment the way it is , I think is fine no dramas there but I never survive long enough to use half of my equipment without just chucking it all in random spots 1-5m away from each other, which is basically called equip spamming.
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 10	Posted - 2014.03.28 04:03:00 - [3] - Quote BrownEye1129 wrote: As a dual beam Rep Tool user, no way do I want the second beam repping myself! I use the dual beam so I can stay on a heavy and heal anyone that is smart enough to fall back after taking damage. Plus heal more people quicker. I logi for my SQUAD not just a heavy. Honestly I'm not having the same problem as all the other repping logis. If you are using a core focused well you are asking to take damage. Also if you are "only" following heavies around repping you are asking to be cannon fodder. Repping is there to "SUPPORT". Heal the damaged not make people invincible. You can pull off or refuse to follow a heavy into a hot zone bc he thinks he is invincible. Heavies like a Logi on them at all time but is not required unless the situation calls for it. (Heavy blocking a door way) A good heavy/player in general isn't going to step out in the open and absorb an entire squads damage unless nessacary. I've been a Logi since the start of my Dust career and got to say you "new" logis are complainers. You look/act like lemmings! Mindlessly following a heavy around never breaking that leash. Instead of doing you job and repping your entire squad. Heavies have a high HP Pool and can survive 1v1 1v2 engagements with out a logi repping him through it. You are crying for "Easy Mode" which I hope and pray CCP doesn't give in to. Im sorry but you contridicted yourself, check the bold. While I agree on the second beam not on yourself, I believe we need some defence against not what the person your repping is doing but the others that come at you from say behind or that cloak past the person your repping just to take you out, where you have no chance to get your gun out in time or to even ask for help on the mic as its usually to late. Yes u can run but that results in the same fate from the person your repping to.
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 10	Posted - 2014.03.28 05:06:00 - [4] - Quote BrownEye1129 wrote: anaboop wrote: BrownEye1129 wrote: As a dual beam Rep Tool user, no way do I want the second beam repping myself! I use the dual beam so I can stay on a heavy and heal anyone that is smart enough to fall back after taking damage. Plus heal more people quicker. I logi for my SQUAD not just a heavy. Honestly I'm not having the same problem as all the other repping logis. If you are using a core focused well you are asking to take damage. Also if you are "only" following heavies around repping you are asking to be cannon fodder. Repping is there to "SUPPORT". Heal the damaged not make people invincible. You can pull off or refuse to follow a heavy into a hot zone bc he thinks he is invincible. Heavies like a Logi on them at all time but is not required unless the situation calls for it. (Heavy blocking a door way) A good heavy/player in general isn't going to step out in the open and absorb an entire squads damage unless nessacary. I've been a Logi since the start of my Dust career and got to say you "new" logis are complainers. You look/act like lemmings! Mindlessly following a heavy around never breaking that leash. Instead of doing you job and repping your entire squad. Heavies have a high HP Pool and can survive 1v1 1v2 engagements with out a logi repping him through it. You are crying for "Easy Mode" which I hope and pray CCP doesn't give in to. Im sorry but you contridicted yourself, check the bold. While I agree on the second beam not on yourself, I believe we need some defence against not what the person your repping is doing but the others that come at you from say behind or that cloak past the person your repping just to take you out, where you have no chance to get your gun out in time or to even ask for help on the mic as its usually to late. Yes u can run but that results in the same fate from the person your repping to. Let me try to clarify. When I am running logi I run between my squadmates. If the heavy is taking the majority of the damage I try to stay on him. If not then I try to find whoever is damage or firing for the extra guardian points. The point I was trying to make: A new wave of logistics is on the battle field. Their SOLE purpose is to put a leash on a heavy and never leave. These people seem to be the ones crying and complaining about a logis survivability. Of course logis are going to get focus fire they are the squads life support. It is up to the remaining "5" squad members to help keep the logi on his feet. This seriously isn't a problem with proper teamwork. People always say this is a team game, but don't act like it and complain when it doesn't work. Only game mode that is deathmatch is ambush. With the other two there is no reason for your squadmates to be across the map slaying the stray enemy. If you squad is actually working together, scouts flank/drift farther away, assaults/slayers support the logi/heavy you will find you don't die as often. It is when people start worrying about chasing and killing everything they see that logis have a problem. It is your squad that needs a buff not the logi. They are leaving their medic vulnerable. Ahh yes, teamwork is a major issue, very easily they go off on a rambo mission and that one going off is doom to the rest. Its hard to teach in my eyes, even with a defend order they stray off all the time, maybe instead of logi buff or whatever make the squad all gain points for being together, incentive to stay together no matterwhat.