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Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1114	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:11:00 - [1] - Quote It is all well and good that you know about the shitload of bugs 1.8 brought us but can you give us some kind of ETA of hotfixes happening. By your words 'you want to communicate with the community'. Please do so. The 1.8 is nice patch but the many bugs are making the enjoyment of it nonexistent. and HEY! Shouldn't the forums be NUMBER ONE place to announce anything game-related??? Not twitter. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11820	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:12:00 - [2] - Quote SoonTM. Also do note that when CCP says they'll do a hotfix 'today' or 'this week' they actually mean it'll come two months later. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1114	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:19:00 - [3] - Quote I find it 'funny' that the devs have time to post in all kinds of threads but but not to the ones which really matter. I get it, I get it. They may not have hard schedule for anything but come on, who doesn't want info on these fixes? SoonTM just doesn't cut it. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1900	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:40:00 - [4] - Quote Tank hardener patch was supposed to come today, according to twitter. But CCP actually asked the forums if it was a good idea. So it might be delayed. Dont know about the rest. Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 763	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:51:00 - [5] - Quote Week or two and the first hotfix might land TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. - Blaine the Mono
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1114	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:52:00 - [6] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Tank hardener patch was supposed to come today, according to twitter. But CCP actually asked the forums if it was a good idea. So it might be delayed. Dont know about the rest. Yep. And they announced it on twitter first. Twitter. TWITTER514. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1570	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:28:00 - [7] - Quote late this week to early next week. aka less then 7 days. this is from the devs of IRC
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1114	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:35:00 - [8] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: late this week to early next week. aka less then 7 days. this is from the devs of IRC Lol. Appreciate the information. Do you see guys? Do you? This is the new transparent CCP we are trying to communicate with. I even remember talks of getting the information from one place or do I remember wrong? IRc, Twatter, users. But no forums, no. It seems that we forum-goers are second-grade citizens here. But I can only applaud you PLAYERS who relay the information to us low-class citizens here in OFFICIAL game forums. Honestly, thank you guys. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 430	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:38:00 - [9] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Shouldn't the forums be NUMBER ONE place to announce anything game-related??? Not twitter. It's happening with all the corporate info leaks. You should see the hype around the new Jurassic Park movie coming in 2015, Jurassic World. The director had to unconfirm leaked scripts, and Universal is cracking down hard on NDA breaches. You people who have an ego trip from proto stomping have a harsh reality waiting in life after you turn off the PS3.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 2913	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:43:00 - [10] - Quote Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian


bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 433	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:45:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Bye bye Duna corp B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8964	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:47:00 - [12] - Quote bamboo x wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Bye bye Duna corp Ah not a bad solution only applying a hard cap to Ambush..... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Musta Tornius Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1229	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:49:00 - [13] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SoonTM. Also do note that when CCP says they'll do a hotfix 'today' or 'this week' they actually mean it'll come two months later. You might just have to eat those words, boy-o. :) DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1671	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:50:00 - [14] - Quote bamboo x wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Bye bye Duna corp First heavies and now tanks The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1671	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:52:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Shield hardeners? The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 18	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:52:00 - [16] - Quote bamboo x wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Bye bye Duna corp no bye bye, now they comes on domination and skirmish - I would prefer to stay them on ambush untill my forge gun and swarms will be fixed. QRT30 - logi QRT300 - heavy/commando Rave Technologies Inc.
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 934	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:52:00 - [17] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: late this week to early next week. aka less then 7 days. this is from the devs of IRC Lol. Appreciate the information. Do you see guys? Do you? This is the new transparent CCP we are trying to communicate with. I even remember talks of getting the information from one place or do I remember wrong? IRc, Twatter, users. But no forums, no. It seems that we forum-goers are second-grade citizens here. But I can only applaud you PLAYERS who relay the information to us low-class citizens here in OFFICIAL game forums. Honestly, thank you guys. I understand what you're saying but honestly it is just the nature of forums. Most of what is posted is either complete bullshit, pointless arguments, rants, or horrendously bad ideas. This is why getting a response from a DEV is hit or miss. It's a lot of crap to slog through. As for announcements like the ETA on the hotfix that was just an unofficial statement made by one DEV. The reason this info comes from chatting in the IRC is because the DEVs won't make a post until things are nearly 100% finished. They're not going to make a bunch of "We're going to be releasing something (don't know exactly what) sometime between right now and one week from now (don't know exactly when)." It doesn't look good and if something goes wrong with the fix and it takes longer to finish that makes them look even worse. So they're not going to make an official announcement until they know exactly what changes they are making and it is ready to be deployed. If you really want to know these things you should get in the IRC. For the most part people there are more rational than on the forums and DEVs are more willing to make those unofficial statements. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 870	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:54:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. What?....I can play ambush again!? Oh man! It's been so long....Why does the word "ScoutBush" pop in my head ? Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 934	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:56:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Please tell me that is only temporary. If not then just go ahead and remove them from ambush completely. Which by the way is exactly what should happen but whatever. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1969	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:59:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Whoa, so the BIG BAD W0LVES can only eat 2 tanks at a time? Boooooooooooring..... I ain't got time for dat sh!t At least I'm not King ThunderBolt

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1570	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:00:00 - [21] - Quote IRC gets news first becuase it ALWAYS comes with the disclaimer of "could possably be scrapped before it ever comes to light" also IRC is unofficially dubed fanboy chat. devs are more likely to share infomration before its ready to be shared if they know it wont immediatly end up with people chanting for their heads on spikes.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1671	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:04:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. of course you mean shield hardeners, right? Armor hardeners are not an issue. Please tell me you are not that dumb. Every AV weapon eats armor. Who wants some?
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 226	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:05:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. "Boom" is my thing VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1115	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:06:00 - [24] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: IRC gets news first becuase it ALWAYS comes with the disclaimer of "could possably be scrapped before it ever comes to light" also IRC is unofficially dubed fanboy chat. devs are more likely to share infomration before its ready to be shared if they know it wont immediatly end up with people chanting for their heads on spikes. I get all this, I truly do. However CCP could and CAN improve the communication between them and the community. By even just stating that hey, we are thinking of making this happening then but it's not confirmed. Of course it will get critizied and scrutinized by the community but that way the community is aware of things happening. Not everyone lives on IRC or Twitter. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1671	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:07:00 - [25] - Quote 8213 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Whoa, so the BIG BAD W0LVES can only eat 2 tanks at a time? Boooooooooooring..... They will just be RDVs lined up ready to drop off the next wreck. Who wants some?
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1901	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:07:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Boom. Yeah!! Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
Jaghen Hagharr BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 11	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:07:00 - [27] - Quote bamboo x wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Bye bye Duna corp Hahahahaha...that made my day !! "You're not afraid of the dark, are you?"
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 802	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:10:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Bolded the bit I care about (remember, Mr. Tanker here) 1. is the Armor hardener the only thing getting reduced? What about Shield Hardeners? Most of the ways of killing tanks are armor focused (Forge Guns, Remote/Proximity Explosives, Railguns I think, Swarm Launchers, AV grenades, Missiles) so it seems kind of strange to only lower the armor hardener. In fact, the only AV weapons that are a threat to shields are Plasma Cannons (which aren't used often), Blasters, and Flux Grenades. Hopefully it is a sane reduction and not too much grief, as well as having a corresponding reduction to Shield Hardeners. Hopefully TvT isn't hurt too much. 2. Range reduction? Please tell me those bastards in the redline are up the river! 3. Two tanks per ambush on a side? Interesting idea. I wonder if that will help. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 441	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:12:00 - [29] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Shield hardeners? VERY good point... B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 763	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:16:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. You're the best around TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. - Blaine the Mono

Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster 190	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:40:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. Wait wait wait... so your saying you actually GOT AN ACTUAL QA??? So why there is so many bugs in the first place?? I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits
Callidus Vanus Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 255	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:42:00 - [32] - Quote For those bitching about the shield hardeners. Quote: Additionally, the following changes were planned to go out during downtime on the 27th. However, during testing we found an issue with the changes that prevented them from working successfully. Rather than delay the other fixes we decided to follow up and fix these with a further update tomorrow (the 28th). * Vehicle Shield Hardener bonus reduced from 60% to 40%. * Small Railgun range has been reduced from 300m to 200m. Sauce https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151374&find=unread Closed beta bunny, Veteran of Caldari Prime.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 2933	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:44:00 - [33] - Quote Callidus Vanus wrote: For those bitching about the shield hardeners. Quote: Additionally, the following changes were planned to go out during downtime on the 27th. However, during testing we found an issue with the changes that prevented them from working successfully. Rather than delay the other fixes we decided to follow up and fix these with a further update tomorrow (the 28th). * Vehicle Shield Hardener bonus reduced from 60% to 40%. * Small Railgun range has been reduced from 300m to 200m. Sauce https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151374&find=unread Beat me to it! Darn :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 764	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:49:00 - [34] - Quote I don't understand how this alleviates pressure on AV.... considering the cut to damage output of 1.8 weapons compared to 1.7 then you're back to where you started.... is there another hotfix coming for AV weapons?
Asirius Medaius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1103	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:55:00 - [35] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Tank hardener patch was supposed to come today, according to twitter. But CCP actually asked the forums if it was a good idea. So it might be delayed. Dont know about the rest. Yep. And they announced it on twitter first. Twitter. TWITTER514. This right here, really bugs me. I feel angered to have to resort to third party communication sites in order to get information about a game that has its own forums. Silliness is what I would use to describe this sort of behavior from a company who takes steps like these.
Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 82	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:57:00 - [36] - Quote So am I still gonna be a glowing bullet sponge that looks like a package of diapers? (Caldari Commando?) it's not really enjoyable to be seen by everyone and everything on the map. Oh and your cloaks are broken. Keep getting one shot by guys then they decloak. There's a message in my Cheerios!
Sam Booty Valor Coalition Red Whines. 62	Posted - 2014.03.27 09:58:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. I think that this isn't enough for the AV balance because swarms should have had a buff (damage and speed) but certainly I am pleased by this change since it is in the right direction. What is the limit on dropships? Are we going to have a squad of 6 dropships in Ambush now? The limit should be for all HAVs not only tanks.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2212	Posted - 2014.03.27 10:17:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. And shield hardener right? Gunnlogis are the ones who abuse them the most... For the Federation!
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2580	Posted - 2014.03.27 10:18:00 - [39] - Quote Sam Booty wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Okay, so here's the latest: - We're releasing a couple batches of hotfixes. - The first batch are going through QA now and we're hoping for them to go out during downtime today. - We'll announce what they are once they've passed QA. A lot of the 1.8 bugs are fixed, along with some reduction to armor hardener bonuses, railgun range reduction and a maximum of 2 tanks allowance per side in Ambush. Boom. I think that this isn't enough for the AV balance because swarms should have had a buff (damage and speed) but certainly I am pleased by this change since it is in the right direction. What is the limit on dropships? Are we going to have a squad of 6 dropships in Ambush now? The limit should be for all HAVs not only tanks. HAV's are tanks. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2014.03.27 10:22:00 - [40] - Quote My question is what does this do to rail emplacements in the red line. Blaster & Missile turrets in the red line are already useless. This range nerf is going to pretty much kill rail emplacements also if it hits them.



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