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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2057
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:11:00 -
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The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay.
Bittervet Proficiency V
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
465
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:12:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay.
NO! Use your eyes. They are not invisible, just camouflaged. |
Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2057
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:15:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. NO! Use your eyes. They are not invisible, just camouflaged.
No, virtually invisible. No reason they should be able to shoot while the animation for uncloaking hasnt finished yet, cloak up and run off. Especially on a logi suit.
Bittervet Proficiency V
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
1019
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:17:00 -
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Logos aren't supposed to get a bonus for fitting them. This will be corrected.
The shimmer is good, but comes to full shimmer too early. They need to turn down the shimmer when moving slowly.
The cloak has too much uptime for too little cool down. They need to reverse the current uptimes and cool down.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
Fixed link.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4053
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:17:00 -
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Dude.....it's near impossible to make a decent fitting with a cloak that's not a scout.....
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Slen Kaleth
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
118
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:18:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay.
Um... That is already the case, lvl5 scout receives -75% to fitting costs at the fitting is in the 200s on CPU for the basic model. |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
1166
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:19:00 -
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thats because ur not supposed to make a non scout cloak suit wow seriously ............................
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
466
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:20:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. NO! Use your eyes. They are not invisible, just camouflaged. No, virtually invisible. No reason they should be able to shoot while the animation for uncloaking hasnt finished yet, cloak up and run off. Especially on a logi suit.
No reason for you not to be killed by cloaked scout. I have killed tons of them it is ridiculous. |
Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2057
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:30:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Dude.....it's near impossible to make a decent fitting with a cloak that's not a scout.....
That explains the gal logi taking an entire magazine from a combat rifle...
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2057
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:30:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. NO! Use your eyes. They are not invisible, just camouflaged. No, virtually invisible. No reason they should be able to shoot while the animation for uncloaking hasnt finished yet, cloak up and run off. Especially on a logi suit. No reason for you not to be killed by cloaked scout. I have killed tons of them it is ridiculous.
Reading comprehension. I kill plenty of scouts. I'm talking about other suits. Derp moar.
Bittervet Proficiency V
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3696
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:31:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay.
I wanna see this 1000+hp cloaked logi setup.
No.
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2057
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:34:00 -
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This is how you do cloaks in eve:
Covert Ops Skill Bonus: -97.5% to -100% reduced CPU need for cloaking device
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II -0% 10 seconds 10,000* tf -0%
10000 CPU usage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bittervet Proficiency V
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2057
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:41:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. I wanna see this 1000+hp cloaked logi setup.
http://imgur.com/GZiDEQW
you were saying?
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
468
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:51:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. NO! Use your eyes. They are not invisible, just camouflaged. No, virtually invisible. No reason they should be able to shoot while the animation for uncloaking hasnt finished yet, cloak up and run off. Especially on a logi suit. No reason for you not to be killed by cloaked scout. I have killed tons of them it is ridiculous. Reading comprehension. I kill plenty of scouts. I'm talking about other suits. Derp moar.
You sure do QQ about cloaks then. |
Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V.
837
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:56:00 -
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- Damage should open cloak - Timers are excessive !
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HappyAsshole1
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:58:00 -
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they should be light blue.. hard to see at distance but at close you see them easily. |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1525
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:59:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Dude.....it's near impossible to make a decent fitting with a cloak that's not a scout..... That explains the gal logi taking an entire magazine from a combat rifle...
Well the Logis don't have the limits they're supposed to have with cloaks right now. Besides that, what? You could stack on shields, two armor plates, and stack on CPU/PG upgrades and fit cloaks.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
234
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:00:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. I wanna see this 1000+hp cloaked logi setup. http://imgur.com/GZiDEQWyou were saying? Does and can he even fit a gun? -_-
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
134
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:04:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. I wanna see this 1000+hp cloaked logi setup. http://imgur.com/GZiDEQWyou were saying? Not to be that guy... but the suit doesn't have 1000+ eHP he has 931 he also doesn't have any weapons, and any other equipment other than cloak.
I'm a logi now! :D
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
916
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:15:00 -
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The people defending this current cloak setup are the reason why this game will never see a competitive scene and/or over 5000k concurrent users...
CCP continues to dish out **** patches that will make them more money and continue to ignore the **** controls, latency and imbalances, which Dust has plagued us with for months... Keep defending the **** that obviously needs fixed and see where this game goes..
BTW, Flux Nades don't even de-cloak the fucks........
I would almost be fine with cloaks if Flux Grenades actually de-cloaked them, like you would think they should.. Also whichever dev thought it was cool to not let Flux Grenades effect cloaks needs to be fired.. |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3698
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:30:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. I wanna see this 1000+hp cloaked logi setup. http://imgur.com/GZiDEQWyou were saying?
WTH is this?
No.
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mollerz
2976
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:34:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:The people defending this current cloak setup are the reason why this game will never see a competitive scene and/or over 5000k concurrent users...
CCP continues to dish out **** patches that will make them more money and continue to ignore the **** controls, latency and imbalances, which Dust has plagued us with for months... Keep defending the **** that obviously needs fixed and see where this game goes..
BTW, Flux Nades don't even de-cloak the fucks........
I would almost be fine with cloaks if Flux Grenades actually de-cloaked them, like you would think they should.. Also whichever dev thought it was cool to not let Flux Grenades effect cloaks needs to be fired..
The cloak was already pre-Nerfed.
This is the cloak that was negotiated.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2269
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:37:00 -
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I wouldn't say OP, but abused its to easy to remain cloaked with a weapon out, fix that and the cloak is fine.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4788
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:37:00 -
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People in cloaks are as obvious as people wearing plain khakis while standing on a beach. They're pretty obvious.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
546
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:40:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Dude.....it's near impossible to make a decent fitting with a cloak that's not a scout..... That explains the gal logi taking an entire magazine from a combat rifle... just because you emptied a clip doesn't mean he took it
module poll
stuff for alts
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
810
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:48:00 -
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The novelty is going to wear off and getting shotgunned in the back is going to do little to retain players.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
546
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:52:00 -
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on a proto gal logi with maxed skills on everything i got to 700 ehp on protofits
module poll
stuff for alts
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1204
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:56:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. NO! Use your eyes. They are not invisible, just camouflaged. No, virtually invisible. No reason they should be able to shoot while the animation for uncloaking hasnt finished yet, cloak up and run off. Especially on a logi suit. Not invisible, use your eyes. |
Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
2057
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:56:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The fact that just about any suit with an equipment slot can use it, including 1000+ eHP logis? And that it appears that you can fire immediately after the cloak turns off except the player is still cloaked while the animation finishes....
Need to take a page from eve and give it insane fitting costs, while giving the scout suit the only bonus that will allow it to be fit. Also, firing delay. I wanna see this 1000+hp cloaked logi setup. http://imgur.com/GZiDEQWyou were saying? WTH is this?
proto gal logi with a cloak
Bittervet Proficiency V
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
546
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:57:00 -
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700 ehp gal logi cloak
module poll
stuff for alts
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