DUST Search - Day one of commando/sidearm event and boosting already.

Marston VC wrote:

Gelhad Thremyr wrote:

Patrick57 wrote:

KatanaPT wrote:

Patrick57 wrote:

So, all this thread is now is KatanaPT trying to justify boosting by comparing it to PC ISK revenue and how there are other 'exploits' that CCP should be taking care of. Apparently, it's ok to boost when you don't like this game.

If you don't like this game, don't play. Lol

Im sorry Patrick, cant you read? I am not justifying what i did, i am yes, recognizing what i did and when and if we do get punished in any way CCP finds adequate, then by all means, lets not be hipocritical about it and start dissing out punishment to the stuff that has been happening. And also, i find it quite hilarious that people i have never even ran into, come here and start trowing rocks without looking at their own corps, friends or players they run squads with.

That's funny.

I'm not in a corp, and my old corp did not make me rich. 85% of my total 300 million ISK that I've made throughout my time in this game was made from pubs.

What was your point again...?

300 mil is spare change, start using a python a game and if you loose an average of 2 per games that gives you about 300 games to get broke. The point about PC is that they removed bpo from the game saying it breaks the economy yet they dont give a frag about the loking that went on. How many proto suit or equipment do you buy with aurum when you can easily get all you want with the money generated with locking ? And lastly since you claim to only have that low amount of isk i think your corp has a big stash which you dont talk about...

Actually, Mathematically PC only generates between 9-15% of the games total isk income. So, yeah the district locking sucked, but the money printing that was going on in pubs was far worse.

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Scoota Eu GunFall Mobilization 63	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:13:00 - [31] - Quote Bump
PO0KY Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 558	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:15:00 - [32] - Quote Well that's just dandy. Now I have to hide my face in public.
Patrick57 6169	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:18:00 - [33] - Quote So, all this thread is now is KatanaPT trying to justify boosting by comparing it to PC ISK revenue and how there are other 'exploits' that CCP should be taking care of. Apparently, it's ok to boost when you don't like this game. If you don't like this game, don't play. Lol
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4796	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:23:00 - [34] - Quote K9 Wez wrote: Well you can start by sending +20 mill isk my way if you don't know what to do with all that isk you supposedly have. I sure could use it, i have expensive taste. Sure. What tastes could you have that is expensive? I can only think of ads. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 647	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:24:00 - [35] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: So, all this thread is now is KatanaPT trying to justify boosting by comparing it to PC ISK revenue and how there are other 'exploits' that CCP should be taking care of. Apparently, it's ok to boost when you don't like this game. If you don't like this game, don't play. Lol Im sorry Patrick, cant you read? I am not justifying what i did, i am yes, recognizing what i did and when and if we do get punished in any way CCP finds adequate, then by all means, lets not be hipocritical about it and start dissing out punishment to the stuff that has been happening. And also, i find it quite hilarious that people i have never even ran into, come here and start trowing rocks without looking at their own corps, friends or players they run squads with. Tech Guard Recruiting Video
Patrick57 6172	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:25:00 - [36] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: K9 Wez wrote: Well you can start by sending +20 mill isk my way if you don't know what to do with all that isk you supposedly have. I sure could use it, i have expensive taste. Sure. What tastes could you have that is expensive? I can only think of ads. Can you pay for those too...? Pythons are my guilty pleasure.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2119	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:26:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Support ticket is the way to report them. The GMs just love to dispense justice. Please make sure you include: your character in the battle (especially if you submit from a different account), the character that was boosting and if possible a rough time for when it happened. I'm interested what the sanctions are for boosting. Do you ban them? If yes I really wonder who would seriously risk his SP for something like this. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 842	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:27:00 - [38] - Quote I don't think anyone had any illusions that no one was going to try to take advantage of the event. Let's be real though, KatanaPT...if this was a protest of some sort you would have hung a pic or video of you and your guys boosting and trumpeted it to the community. You got caught, publicly outed, and now you are trying to put a positive spin on it. No matter how you dress it up it was still bush league. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
Patrick57 6172	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:27:00 - [39] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: So, all this thread is now is KatanaPT trying to justify boosting by comparing it to PC ISK revenue and how there are other 'exploits' that CCP should be taking care of. Apparently, it's ok to boost when you don't like this game. If you don't like this game, don't play. Lol Im sorry Patrick, cant you read? I am not justifying what i did, i am yes, recognizing what i did and when and if we do get punished in any way CCP finds adequate, then by all means, lets not be hipocritical about it and start dissing out punishment to the stuff that has been happening. And also, i find it quite hilarious that people i have never even ran into, come here and start trowing rocks without looking at their own corps, friends or players they run squads with. That's funny. I'm not in a corp, and my old corp did not make me rich. 85% of my total 300 million ISK that I've made throughout my time in this game was made from pubs. What was your point again...?
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4796	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:28:00 - [40] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: I am sorry Djinn, but it did. Nothing stops a whole team or squad once they dont care on constantly using protogear in a public match. I have discussed this in the forums, but the influx of money on these corps broke the game. Fact. And dont forget about the SP gained in district locking Like I said before, once you have 10-20 mill, You're set. Nothing stops anyone who has 20mill from running proto constantly. They will eventually make back their money even if they died 4 times with a 100k fit. Also, what sp? District locking didn't give you more sp than you could possibly make by running pubs? It's not like PC players get more sp cap than pub players GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY

DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4796	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:30:00 - [41] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: K9 Wez wrote: Well you can start by sending +20 mill isk my way if you don't know what to do with all that isk you supposedly have. I sure could use it, i have expensive taste. Sure. What tastes could you have that is expensive? I can only think of ads. Can you pay for those too...? Pythons are my guilty pleasure. Well, you just said you have 300 mill.. You have enough isk. Infact, I should be asking you for money GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Patrick57 6172	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:33:00 - [42] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Well, you just said you have 300 mill.. You have enough isk. Infact, I should be asking you for money I've accumulated 300 mil total throughout my lifetime. I've hit 100 mil ISK three different times. Right now I'm sitting at 107 mil. Zatara never paid me more than 10 mil a week, except for the 20 mil he gave me when I left.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 372	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:36:00 - [43] - Quote Here's the big difference in this "corporate" crime versus the small time boosters. 1) The Boosters are doing something they know is wrong, and they know the punishment that CCP will dispatch. Therefore the punishment is just. We all know the consequence. 2) The corporate criminals know they're doing wrong, and CCP supports it as part of the game. As such punishment would be unjust. It supports the meta game and provides the game with motivations for players. If the Council decided to set forth rules to govern the conduct of business associated with planetary conquest such as; outlawing the practice of locking districts, monopolizing, obtaining/selling districts under false pretenses, then by all means complain about big crime versus small time. Until then HTFU. Welcome to New Eden. We can pickle that.
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 930	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:42:00 - [44] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: Bunch of nonsense You can own up to your mistake all you want but pointing at other people that aren't being punished shows that you don't fully accept responsibility for your actions. You are saying "Yes I should get punished, but... That's already one word too many. When you apologize to someone it only takes 2 words: "I'm sorry." You start adding "but" on to it and the apology becomes meaningless. This of course is just a game but it's good advice for the real world too. I think you should be punished even before district lockers are because you either did it just to boost your stats or just to be an *******. They at least did it for profit. And also banning players for boosting is much easier than messing around with tracing ill-gotten ISK after it's been dispersed into a corp and used to purchase assets and whatnot. I'm not saying they should get away with it because punishing them would be difficult I'm saying that punishing them could potentially create just as many problems, if not more. It sucks, but that's the way it is. CCP would rather just patch the exploit and move on than get into the nightmare that removing ISK and assets is. The only exceptions I can think of were the massive crackdown on RMT's and an exploit in Faction Warfare where a small group of players made 100's of trillions of ISK off of it. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 659	Posted - 2014.03.27 00:48:00 - [45] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Support ticket is the way to report them. The GMs just love to dispense justice. Please make sure you include: your character in the battle (especially if you submit from a different account), the character that was boosting and if possible a rough time for when it happened. And to think a simple mechanic would have sufficed. You can't tell me that would be hard to program. It's only a button to choose yes or no. While I agree, some limitations should be put into place with code...as a developer, I cringe anytime I hear anyone say 'It's just a button'. It is NEVER that simple. That being said, I do hope CCP implements something for this mechanic. Even if it isn't a yes/no choice due the consquences of someones actions, collectives you should store attempts of individual revives against a single character within a certain timespan. Therefore, base number or greater injections within a 30 second period = unrevivable merc. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Izlare Lenix Arrogance. 297	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:03:00 - [46] - Quote Players that boost are the worst losers in the history of gaming. They suck at life so bad they have to exploit a game to make themselves feel better. Either way, other players who don't see the problem with boosting or don't care about it are almost as bad, and frankly they probably do it themselves. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 673	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:14:00 - [47] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Support ticket is the way to report them. The GMs just love to dispense justice. Please make sure you include: your character in the battle (especially if you submit from a different account), the character that was boosting and if possible a rough time for when it happened. Well, yes i did the boosting, and obviously i knew what i was doing, fact is, it was the first time and last i ever did such a thing and in all honestly i was because this current patch really put me on the brink of a nervous breakdown with all the bugs and horrible problems going on, i guess i deserve a report but i do ask you this Logibro, what was in store to all those who exploited PC during months, several of those corps with respectable members of this "community". We have proof in youtube videos, proof in the billionaire wallets and proof in the protostomping we daily incurr from them. What "justice" was dispensed to them? I will stop the boosting because we all knew people noticed and i actually call it a red flag waved in some sort of protest to whats going on, for months to no end. As for the repercussions, i will wait for them, but i doubt we will be banned, because i think Corps and Players who exploited and used broken mechanics to their own profit for months were constantly ignored by CCP, and the GMs you talk about. Lastly i am sorry to the community and the game for using this mechanic. AS an italian, I'm aware that THIEF and PEOPLE how think are smart usually say this. IF someone steal that don't make steal legal. You are so bad that you need do CHEAT in a free game. GG Amarr SCR user. Believe in the FORGE, young padawans C'èSoloDoloreSuCharlie
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 425	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:18:00 - [48] - Quote Nobody told me how the hell they're doing this. 214 deaths? WTF? You people who have an ego trip from proto stomping have a harsh reality waiting in life after you turn off the PS3.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6217	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:23:00 - [49] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Sure. What tastes could you have that is expensive? I can only think of ads. AV I'll pay you back. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6217	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:27:00 - [50] - Quote C Saunders wrote: I warned those 3. Lol, your marked men now. :) Unfortunately, so is everyone in your corporation. I'd contact a director and have something done about them if I were you. It's not good to be known as the corp who's so bad that they need to boost to have good stats. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

Gill Gablablaz Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:44:00 - [51] - Quote hahaha this is ********. the corp is marked? That's narrow-minded and really, who cares anyway. I'm pretty sure they only did it this time, out of frustration, in an attempt to bring notice to the problem. Apart from me knowing them and what happened, if someone is cheating they wouldn't do it with such a flamboyant display would they? Doesn't CCP keep some records on the player kills and what not? I think that from them it should be pretty obvious to check if they do this often, not to mention that if they had done this before it would be reported sooner? There's always someone willing to report out there. I don't agree with my teammates hot-headed way to bring atention to this but I do think these kind of issues with exploitation should be prevented and not just accepted with the ocasional punitive measure on the side. And those issues in my view also include the abuses in PC.
Kara Anschel Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 79	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:46:00 - [52] - Quote Jenova Rhapsodos wrote: Tech Guard you despicable barstards. Woh! Don't get mad at all of us :(. Obo is just being obo, he's the resident trouble maker. I'm sure he'll get busted for this, and with CCP already responding I'm sure it will be fast.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 149	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:51:00 - [53] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: KatanaPT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: So, all this thread is now is KatanaPT trying to justify boosting by comparing it to PC ISK revenue and how there are other 'exploits' that CCP should be taking care of. Apparently, it's ok to boost when you don't like this game. If you don't like this game, don't play. Lol Im sorry Patrick, cant you read? I am not justifying what i did, i am yes, recognizing what i did and when and if we do get punished in any way CCP finds adequate, then by all means, lets not be hipocritical about it and start dissing out punishment to the stuff that has been happening. And also, i find it quite hilarious that people i have never even ran into, come here and start trowing rocks without looking at their own corps, friends or players they run squads with. That's funny. I'm not in a corp, and my old corp did not make me rich. 85% of my total 300 million ISK that I've made throughout my time in this game was made from pubs. What was your point again...? 300 mil is spare change, start using a python a game and if you loose an average of 2 per games that gives you about 300 games to get broke. The point about PC is that they removed bpo from the game saying it breaks the economy yet they dont give a frag about the loking that went on. How many proto suit or equipment do you buy with aurum when you can easily get all you want with the money generated with locking ? And lastly since you claim to only have that low amount of isk i think your corp has a big stash which you dont talk about...
Patrick57 6193	Posted - 2014.03.27 01:57:00 - [54] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: 300 mil is spare change, start using a python a game and if you loose an average of 2 per games that gives you about 300 games to get broke. The point about PC is that they removed bpo from the game saying it breaks the economy yet they dont give a frag about the loking that went on. How many proto suit or equipment do you buy with aurum when you can easily get all you want with the money generated with locking ? And lastly since you claim to only have that low amount of isk i think your corp has a big stash which you dont talk about... I use Pythons. I lose one almost every match to some Railgun Sica in the enemy redline. I deleted my Python fit for that very reason. Something that vulnerable is way too expensive. As for your "And lastly since you claim to only have that low amount of isk i think your corp has a big stash which you dont talk about..." argument, let me point this out for you: Patrick57 wrote: I'm not in a corp Look it up on dustboard if you don't believe me (for some reason I can't show my tags ). So, how much ISK does my corp have stocked up? Must be so much, with the zero percent tax and no districts in PC.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 150	Posted - 2014.03.27 02:00:00 - [55] - Quote Damn right for the python i stopped flying them also till they fix the rqil tank, and you have me there, i was absolutely sure you where with FA from seeing you in the war room
Patrick57 6194	Posted - 2014.03.27 02:04:00 - [56] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Damn right for the python i stopped flying them also till they fix the rqil tank, and you have me there, i was absolutely sure you where with FA from seeing you in the war room I was, but wanted nothing to do with the huge donut. I even rang against them yesterday.
Marston VC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1638	Posted - 2014.03.27 02:07:00 - [57] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Support ticket is the way to report them. The GMs just love to dispense justice. Please make sure you include: your character in the battle (especially if you submit from a different account), the character that was boosting and if possible a rough time for when it happened. Well, yes i did the boosting, and obviously i knew what i was doing, fact is, it was the first time and last i ever did such a thing and in all honestly i was because this current patch really put me on the brink of a nervous breakdown with all the bugs and horrible problems going on, i guess i deserve a report but i do ask you this Logibro, what was in store to all those who exploited PC during months, several of those corps with respectable members of this "community". We have proof in youtube videos, proof in the billionaire wallets and proof in the protostomping we daily incurr from them. What "justice" was dispensed to them? I will stop the boosting because we all knew people noticed and i actually call it a red flag waved in some sort of protest to whats going on, for months to no end. As for the repercussions, i will wait for them, but i doubt we will be banned, because i think Corps and Players who exploited and used broken mechanics to their own profit for months were constantly ignored by CCP, and the GMs you talk about. Lastly i am sorry to the community and the game for using this mechanic. Fact is, you were caught doing something you know shouldn't be done. On top of that theres absolutely no way or reason for anyone to trust your sorry claim to "never doing it again". But don't even act like its a big deal. Worst case scenario you and your buddy lose all the SP you would have earned for the period you were boosting, and/or possibly get banned from this particular event. Marston VC, STB Director
Marston VC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1638	Posted - 2014.03.27 02:09:00 - [58] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Patrick57 wrote: KatanaPT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: So, all this thread is now is KatanaPT trying to justify boosting by comparing it to PC ISK revenue and how there are other 'exploits' that CCP should be taking care of. Apparently, it's ok to boost when you don't like this game. If you don't like this game, don't play. Lol Im sorry Patrick, cant you read? I am not justifying what i did, i am yes, recognizing what i did and when and if we do get punished in any way CCP finds adequate, then by all means, lets not be hipocritical about it and start dissing out punishment to the stuff that has been happening. And also, i find it quite hilarious that people i have never even ran into, come here and start trowing rocks without looking at their own corps, friends or players they run squads with. That's funny. I'm not in a corp, and my old corp did not make me rich. 85% of my total 300 million ISK that I've made throughout my time in this game was made from pubs. What was your point again...? 300 mil is spare change, start using a python a game and if you loose an average of 2 per games that gives you about 300 games to get broke. The point about PC is that they removed bpo from the game saying it breaks the economy yet they dont give a frag about the loking that went on. How many proto suit or equipment do you buy with aurum when you can easily get all you want with the money generated with locking ? And lastly since you claim to only have that low amount of isk i think your corp has a big stash which you dont talk about... Actually, Mathematically PC only generates between 9-15% of the games total isk income. So, yeah the district locking sucked, but the money printing that was going on in pubs was far worse. Marston VC, STB Director
Charlie Barkin KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2014.03.27 02:45:00 - [59] - Quote I'm sure EVE players are laughing at how pitiful the Dust economy is. Just another reason why we need full market integration with pilots being able to mass produce stuff for us Mercs. Put simply Dust is chump change right now and its impact in the grand scheme of things is laughable too. CCP needs to step it up with meaningful links between both games. It really is too bad they released PC as it was and are now doubling back to Faction War so they can figure out that link before tackling on anything else. PC should have never happened in all honesty. While it was a great selling point it just feels half finished so the meaningful factors behind it are not really there. If anyone thinks the pimping of PC districts has a huge impact on the economy I'm pretty sure an EVE character running level 4's in the safety(lol) of highsec could pump out enough ISK in an hour or so to equal what a district brings in a day. Heck a null sec ratting alt can make 20 million every 20 minutes running anoms easy. I'm more worried about the ISK EVE can pump into Dust and I want to see the bloodbath that results from it. So please CCP, give us our toys. Sooner rather than later. PS: Port the game to the PS4 for crying out loud. We need larger player counts in battles. 16 vs 16 is kinda boring with the current map sizes.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 150	Posted - 2014.03.27 03:03:00 - [60] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Patrick57 wrote: KatanaPT wrote: Patrick57 wrote: So, all this thread is now is KatanaPT trying to justify boosting by comparing it to PC ISK revenue and how there are other 'exploits' that CCP should be taking care of. Apparently, it's ok to boost when you don't like this game. If you don't like this game, don't play. Lol Im sorry Patrick, cant you read? I am not justifying what i did, i am yes, recognizing what i did and when and if we do get punished in any way CCP finds adequate, then by all means, lets not be hipocritical about it and start dissing out punishment to the stuff that has been happening. And also, i find it quite hilarious that people i have never even ran into, come here and start trowing rocks without looking at their own corps, friends or players they run squads with. That's funny. I'm not in a corp, and my old corp did not make me rich. 85% of my total 300 million ISK that I've made throughout my time in this game was made from pubs. What was your point again...? 300 mil is spare change, start using a python a game and if you loose an average of 2 per games that gives you about 300 games to get broke. The point about PC is that they removed bpo from the game saying it breaks the economy yet they dont give a frag about the loking that went on. How many proto suit or equipment do you buy with aurum when you can easily get all you want with the money generated with locking ? And lastly since you claim to only have that low amount of isk i think your corp has a big stash which you dont talk about... Actually, Mathematically PC only generates between 9-15% of the games total isk income. So, yeah the district locking sucked, but the money printing that was going on in pubs was far worse. So what your saying is we should try to shake the cage of pub player who have money so they at least form opposition to AE and NS? Gaining traction against NS should not be hard, they tend to really exploit the game but now that things have been fixed a little, i dont think the majority of the players will even lift a finger against the donut.



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