DUST Search - Why all the hate for 1.8?

Bethhy wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

Marston VC wrote:

I was one of you guys, I went through some severe culture shock issues with my first few games. But now ive adapted and move on. In some ways im doing even better then last build! (and no, im not using a heavy suit or scout suit).

I will say this, playing solo in this game is absolutely ruined now. Theres very few opportunities for either a lone wolf vet, or a fresh newbie to play by themselves and not get destroyed.

HOWEVER. Squad play has NEVER been better. The amount of opportunities to work together have skyrocketed! And I found the game particularly more fun whenever two squads duked it out with each other. (especially in domination). So yeah guys. Basically, the solution to almost every problem in 1.8 right now (aside from the other side tank spamming) is almost always teamwork! So try it out guys!

(and btw, I mean legitimate teamwork, not "ohhhh im in a squad just bullsh!itting around")

I agree with this in general.

I will say though, that what you have described is exactly why we should have had PVE in the game from launch. This allows those of us who mostly solo to have something to do other than get smashed by squads. I squad up, but I don't have any friends playing the game anymore, and I'm sure there are a lot of players in my position.

This PVE argument is just plain stupid.

There isn't ANYTHING CCP Shanghai could of done with PVE in the last 6 months to even year... That wouldn't of been massively under-delivered on.. And done way more harm then good after the fact.

CCP are experts in the Gaming industry for creating PVP aspects in games.. There really isnt many developers that can come close to the claims CCP can make with How Epic PVP can get... EVE is at the forefront of PVP.

CCP is also The best in the Gaming Industry at making Player markets.. That is indisputable.

CCP - is Mediocre at Best In ANY PVE aspect they have ever attempted in the entire history of CCP

The PVE First person shooter markets ad the depth around it would be such a massive time investment to deliver ANYTHING that could compete with Boarderlands, Resistance, And Destiny which will be PVE focused not PVP.

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Buster Friently Rosen Association 2095	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:40:00 - [1] - Quote Marston VC wrote: I was one of you guys, I went through some severe culture shock issues with my first few games. But now ive adapted and move on. In some ways im doing even better then last build! (and no, im not using a heavy suit or scout suit). I will say this, playing solo in this game is absolutely ruined now. Theres very few opportunities for either a lone wolf vet, or a fresh newbie to play by themselves and not get destroyed. HOWEVER. Squad play has NEVER been better. The amount of opportunities to work together have skyrocketed! And I found the game particularly more fun whenever two squads duked it out with each other. (especially in domination). So yeah guys. Basically, the solution to almost every problem in 1.8 right now (aside from the other side tank spamming) is almost always teamwork! So try it out guys! (and btw, I mean legitimate teamwork, not "ohhhh im in a squad just bullsh!itting around") I agree with this in general. I will say though, that what you have described is exactly why we should have had PVE in the game from launch. This allows those of us who mostly solo to have something to do other than get smashed by squads. I squad up, but I don't have any friends playing the game anymore, and I'm sure there are a lot of players in my position.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2111	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:49:00 - [2] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Marston VC wrote: I was one of you guys, I went through some severe culture shock issues with my first few games. But now ive adapted and move on. In some ways im doing even better then last build! (and no, im not using a heavy suit or scout suit). I will say this, playing solo in this game is absolutely ruined now. Theres very few opportunities for either a lone wolf vet, or a fresh newbie to play by themselves and not get destroyed. HOWEVER. Squad play has NEVER been better. The amount of opportunities to work together have skyrocketed! And I found the game particularly more fun whenever two squads duked it out with each other. (especially in domination). So yeah guys. Basically, the solution to almost every problem in 1.8 right now (aside from the other side tank spamming) is almost always teamwork! So try it out guys! (and btw, I mean legitimate teamwork, not "ohhhh im in a squad just bullsh!itting around") I agree with this in general. I will say though, that what you have described is exactly why we should have had PVE in the game from launch. This allows those of us who mostly solo to have something to do other than get smashed by squads. I squad up, but I don't have any friends playing the game anymore, and I'm sure there are a lot of players in my position. This PVE argument is just plain stupid. There isn't ANYTHING CCP Shanghai could of done with PVE in the last 6 months to even year... That wouldn't of been massively under-delivered on.. And done way more harm then good after the fact. CCP are experts in the Gaming industry for creating PVP aspects in games.. There really isnt many developers that can come close to the claims CCP can make with How Epic PVP can get... EVE is at the forefront of PVP. CCP is also The best in the Gaming Industry at making Player markets.. That is indisputable. CCP - is Mediocre at Best In ANY PVE aspect they have ever attempted in the entire history of CCP The PVE First person shooter markets ad the depth around it would be such a massive time investment to deliver ANYTHING that could compete with Boarderlands, Resistance, And Destiny which will be PVE focused not PVP. Well, I agree that CCP Shanghai doesn't really have the chops to do PVE correctly, but this is still a good reason that it should have been in the game to begin with - so it can be iterated on like everything else. It's not like they're doing a stellar job with the PVP aspects either. As for CCP being some kind of PVP experts, let me remind you that Eve, though it has a reputation for PVP, is actually mostly PVE, just like all MMOs. The player market should have also been in the game at launch, and I agree here - this is really where CCP can actually shine. As for PVE, they don't need some kind of stupid campaign. Think firefight from Halo Reach and you can see that a lot can be done with minimal effort in regards to PVE.