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IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 124	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:33:00 - [1] - Quote They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed.
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 627	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:35:00 - [2] - Quote You really cant see a scout cloaking and then running past you? "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Erobthedude Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:35:00 - [3] - Quote Or you know...just watch your back. Those scouts aren't hard to kill if you prevent them from getting the upper hand. "Dear Lord, without you we are butt dust."
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 884	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:40:00 - [4] - Quote Scouts are not just hackers and recon. We are the BEST Crowd Controllers. Besides, if you would pay attention, you can still see the person as they are moving, and if you pay close attention, you can still see them even when they are standing still. This is to balance scouts with Scanners. The fact that everyone is using them is irrelevant. It's a new toy, people are going to test it to see how well it works i certain situations. If you hear a shotgun, everyone drops whatever they are doing and try to find it. You don't even have to kill anyone, just scare them. I mostly use the Cloak for recon and stealth purposes. But if I see an enemy while cloaked, I will try to take them out if possible. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 124	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:40:00 - [5] - Quote Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this.
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 343	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:41:00 - [6] - Quote Wow, I'm glad no one played TF2, cause this game is soft in comparison. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2095	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:42:00 - [7] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. Translation: If you don't play like I want you too, you are wrong. Grow up.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 884	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:45:00 - [8] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 124	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:46:00 - [9] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Scouts are not just hackers and recon. We are the BEST Crowd Controllers. Besides, if you would pay attention, you can still see the person as they are moving, and if you pay close attention, you can still see them even when they are standing still. This is to balance scouts with Scanners. The fact that everyone is using them is irrelevant. It's a new toy, people are going to test it to see how well it works i certain situations. If you hear a shotgun, everyone drops whatever they are doing and try to find it. You don't even have to kill anyone, just scare them. I mostly use the Cloak for recon and stealth purposes. But if I see an enemy while cloaked, I will try to take them out if possible. I never said scouts are just recon and hackers I said everyone is abusing what cloaks are meant for. They were not meant for combat and the reason they are being used like that is because they are broken. Sure you hear a shotgun behind you and you turn around and see a scout kill three people you start to shoot he runs behind cover cloaks and you never see him again. That shouldn't be allowed
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 706	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:47:00 - [10] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. If this type of behaviour was true there would be no one left after these tank issues that have been plaguing us since 1.7. The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug

IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 124	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:48:00 - [11] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds.
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 124	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:49:00 - [12] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. If this type of behaviour was true there would be no one left after these tank issues that have been plaguing us since 1.7. So your saying there hasn't been a decrease in players since 1.7?
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2102	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:50:00 - [13] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. Ad Hominem by post 11. Awesome. Any determination on the OP/UP status of the new changes is premature at best at the moment. Come back in two weeks of playing and then post your thoughts.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 704	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:55:00 - [14] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Scouts are not just hackers and recon. We are the BEST Crowd Controllers. Besides, if you would pay attention, you can still see the person as they are moving, and if you pay close attention, you can still see them even when they are standing still. This is to balance scouts with Scanners. The fact that everyone is using them is irrelevant. It's a new toy, people are going to test it to see how well it works i certain situations. If you hear a shotgun, everyone drops whatever they are doing and try to find it. You don't even have to kill anyone, just scare them. I mostly use the Cloak for recon and stealth purposes. But if I see an enemy while cloaked, I will try to take them out if possible. I never said scouts are just recon and hackers I said everyone is abusing what cloaks are meant for. They were not meant for combat and the reason they are being used like that is because they are broken. Sure you hear a shotgun behind you and you turn around and see a scout kill three people you start to shoot he runs behind cover cloaks and you never see him again. That shouldn't be allowed You mean killing mlt scrubs? And I doubt unless they are 2m near eachother you can do that, as when I kill I must go back to being stealthy if there arent 3 people hacking... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 13	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:58:00 - [15] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 2840	Posted - 2014.03.26 16:58:00 - [16] - Quote Na, just make the cloak/decloak sound louder. And maybe remove the extra damping you get while using it, but wait a few months before thinking if that cause we have to play test it first. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 124	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:00:00 - [17] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. Another rnd scrub comes to pay a visit I think you guys have a hard on for me.
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 15	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:01:00 - [18] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. Another rnd scrub comes to pay a visit I think you guys have a hard on for me. Who are you exactly? Whining about scouts yet calling one a scrub... lol
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2104	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:01:00 - [19] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Ares 514 wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. If this type of behaviour was true there would be no one left after these tank issues that have been plaguing us since 1.7. So your saying there hasn't been a decrease in players since 1.7? Not really, the decrease came with 1.6, or maybe even 1.5, I don't recall: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust It was the patch where they added the ridiculous AA to the already OP bullethoses - hence the nerfs in 1.8.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 887	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:01:00 - [20] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. Ok, I LIKE Cloaks, but I DO NOT play Scout exclusively. I use Cal Scout and CalAssault. I kill equally well as a cloaky scout and a Dampened Assault. Maybe you should learn to notice your surroundings? I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone

IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 124	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:04:00 - [21] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. Another rnd scrub comes to pay a visit I think you guys have a hard on for me. Who are you exactly? Whining about scouts yet calling one a scrub... lol The person who could say the same thing who the **** are you I never heard of you.
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 15	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:05:00 - [22] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. Ok, I LIKE Cloaks, but I DO NOT play Scout exclusively. I use Cal Scout and CalAssault. I kill equally well as a cloaky scout and a Dampened Assault. Maybe you should learn to notice your surroundings? You're asking him to stop running around like an idiot and actually think and apply situational awareness.. sir you ask too much.
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 565	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:06:00 - [23] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. Lol quit moaning. Everyone knows the arguments lost when the loser turns to insults. // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 15	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:06:00 - [24] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. Another rnd scrub comes to pay a visit I think you guys have a hard on for me. Who are you exactly? Whining about scouts yet calling one a scrub... lol The person who could say the same thing who the **** are you I never heard of you. But you have heard of my clan... and thats enough for me.
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 124	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:06:00 - [25] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. Ok, I LIKE Cloaks, but I DO NOT play Scout exclusively. I use Cal Scout and CalAssault. I kill equally well as a cloaky scout and a Dampened Assault. Maybe you should learn to notice your surroundings? I never said I had a problem noticing them I never said I had a problem killing. I said that cloaks are broken and are not being used for their purpose.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 887	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:08:00 - [26] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. Ok, I LIKE Cloaks, but I DO NOT play Scout exclusively. I use Cal Scout and CalAssault. I kill equally well as a cloaky scout and a Dampened Assault. Maybe you should learn to notice your surroundings? I never said I had a problem noticing them I never said I had a problem killing. I said that cloaks are broken and are not being used for their purpose. No, it IS. Like my second point above says: Everything on the field will be used for killing. CCP has themselves admitted that fact. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 16	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:09:00 - [27] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. Ok, I LIKE Cloaks, but I DO NOT play Scout exclusively. I use Cal Scout and CalAssault. I kill equally well as a cloaky scout and a Dampened Assault. Maybe you should learn to notice your surroundings? I never said I had a problem noticing them I never said I had a problem killing. I said that cloaks are broken and are not being used for their purpose. They aren't being used the way YOU want people to use them. Get over it.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 708	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:10:00 - [28] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Ares 514 wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. If this type of behaviour was true there would be no one left after these tank issues that have been plaguing us since 1.7. So your saying there hasn't been a decrease in players since 1.7? Maybe, tough to tell for sure. I personally lost any residual faith i had in CCP due to 1.7 and them not even trying to fix the tank balance issues even if it meant just tweaking a few numbers. To many times did scrubs resort to 5-7 tanks after we handily beat them. Just not enjoyable and made me only cap out the last few weeks instead of still playing after. I haven't personally encountered many cloaked enemies yet, only one logi that i easily killed. So i'll reserve judgement but my impressions on using it is that it's not game breaking and no where near as frustrating as tank balance has been. The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 125	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:10:00 - [29] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. Another rnd scrub comes to pay a visit I think you guys have a hard on for me.[/quote] Who are you exactly? Whining about scouts yet calling one a scrub... lol[/quote] The person who could say the same thing who the **** are you I never heard of you.[/quote] But you have heard of my clan... and thats enough for me. [/quote] lol but not you, you already proven that you can't do well without cloaks by saying scouts are balanced now. What about Djinn marauder, cyrus li moody, radar, roner, ttw, frost kitty,lightning xvx I could on on about good scouts before 1.8, and you won't be on the list. Edit: the only time scouts really complained were ttk on the rifles fact.
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 640	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:12:00 - [30] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Wow, I'm glad no one played TF2, cause this game is soft in comparison. IKR. QFT. And this game is supposed to be the most hardcore FPS. Have a like. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms

jerrmy12 kahoalii 704	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:13:00 - [31] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. Another rnd scrub comes to pay a visit I think you guys have a hard on for me. Who are you exactly? Whining about scouts yet calling one a scrub... lol[/quote] The person who could say the same thing who the **** are you I never heard of you.[/quote] But you have heard of my clan... and thats enough for me. [/quote] lol but not you, you already proven that you can't do well without cloaks by saying scouts are balanced now. What about Djinn marauder, cyrus li moody, radar, roner, ttw, frost kitty,lightning xvx I could on on about good scouts before 1.8, and you won't be on the list. Edit: the only time scouts really complained were ttk on the rifles fact.[/quote] What about me? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 254	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:13:00 - [32] - Quote Trying to watch for cloaked scouts is making eyes hurt!!
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 125	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:14:00 - [33] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. Another rnd scrub comes to pay a visit I think you guys have a hard on for me. Who are you exactly? Whining about scouts yet calling one a scrub... lol The person who could say the same thing who the **** are you I never heard of you.[/quote] But you have heard of my clan... and thats enough for me. [/quote] lol but not you, you already proven that you can't do well without cloaks by saying scouts are balanced now. What about Djinn marauder, cyrus li moody, radar, roner, ttw, frost kitty,lightning xvx I could on on about good scouts before 1.8, and you won't be on the list. Edit: the only time scouts really complained were ttk on the rifles fact.[/quote] What about me?[/quote] You too bro
Erobthedude Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:15:00 - [34] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. Ok, I LIKE Cloaks, but I DO NOT play Scout exclusively. I use Cal Scout and CalAssault. I kill equally well as a cloaky scout and a Dampened Assault. Maybe you should learn to notice your surroundings? I never said I had a problem noticing them I never said I had a problem killing. I said that cloaks are broken and are not being used for their purpose. Seriously bro. New Eden isn't the place for tears. "Dear Lord, without you we are butt dust."
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 16	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:16:00 - [35] - Quote You dun goofed the formatting on that last post bud. I never said scouts are balanced, I said HTFU. The game is never going to be balanced because two players of equal skill, SP and EQ will NEVER meet one on one. So stop whining about people using a tool in a way you wouldn't like them to use it.
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 19	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:19:00 - [36] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: PEOPLE ARE USING EQUIPMENT I HAVE NO INTEREST IN USING IN A WAY I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. PLEASE CHANGE THIS POST-HASTE CCP. Fixed the OP for you.
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 268	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:20:00 - [37] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: lol but not you, you already proven that you can't do well without cloaks by saying scouts are balanced now. What about Djinn marauder, cyrus li moody, radar, roner, ttw, frost kitty,lightning xvx I could on on about good scouts before 1.8, and you won't be on the list. Edit: the only time scouts really complained were ttk on the rifles fact. What about me? GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª..,-~GÇÖ`-»lllllll`~, GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª..,-~`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll... GÇªGÇªGÇª,-~lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll... GÇªGÇª,-lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll... GÇª.;`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~~-... GÇª..\lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/GÇªGÇªGÇª\;;... GÇª...\lllllllllllllllllllll,-GÇªGÇªGÇª..`~-~... GÇªGÇª.\llllllllllll,-~GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª)_-\..`;.... GÇªGÇª..\,-`-»,`)GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª,-~`~.GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª.../ GÇªGÇª...\|/.../GÇª/~,GÇª...-~,-~`;GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª./.\ GÇªGÇª../.../GÇª/GÇª/..,-,..~,.`~GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª....... GÇªGÇª.\|.../GÇª/GÇª/.`...\...GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª)GÇª.)-»`~, GÇªGÇª.\|./GÇª/GÇª./GÇªGÇª.)GÇªGÇª,.)`~-,GÇªGÇªGÇª.../GÇª.\|..)... GÇªGÇª/./.../GÇª,`-,GÇª..`-,GÇª`GÇª.,---GÇª...\GÇª./... GÇª...(GÇªGÇªGÇª.)`~-,GÇª.``.,-~.,-GÇªGÇª\|GÇª/.GÇª/GÇª... GÇªGÇª.-,GÇªGÇª.`-,...`~,..``.,,,-GÇªGÇªGÇª.\|.,.... GÇªGÇªGÇª.,GÇªGÇªGÇª`-,GÇª)-,GÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª..,- `...,-GÇª.(`-,... IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:* The person who could say the same thing who the ** are you I never heard of you. Children shouldn't use profane language. >CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!" THE-TITANS** Director
jerrmy12 kahoalii 704	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:22:00 - [38] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. Another rnd scrub comes to pay a visit I think you guys have a hard on for me. Who are you exactly? Whining about scouts yet calling one a scrub... lol The person who could say the same thing who the **** are you I never heard of you. But you have heard of my clan... and thats enough for me. [/quote] lol but not you, you already proven that you can't do well without cloaks by saying scouts are balanced now. What about Djinn marauder, cyrus li moody, radar, roner, ttw, frost kitty,lightning xvx I could on on about good scouts before 1.8, and you won't be on the list. Edit: the only time scouts really complained were ttk on the rifles fact.[/quote] What about me?[/quote] You too bro [/quote] Why exactly? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Pickle Sniffer R 0 N 1 N 71	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:22:00 - [39] - Quote I love the cloaks! Yes, they are a totally new element to the battlefield, and the first one to really give scouts the edge that makes them more than a nuisance as a class. There's always been a few good scouts, but compared to the number or proto stomping assaults, heavies, tanks, and logis, us scouts just had to take our lumps and pride ourselves on helping our team. With few exceptions, most of us have never been a force to be feared...until now. Now, armor tanked, shield tanked, scanner spamming, or FOTM weapon wielding, take your pick - you'll still have to look over your shoulder...scouts are here to compete. Might as well stop crying about the cloaks, and just learn to live with them. Or die, your call ;)
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 125	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:27:00 - [40] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. 5 guys? 5!? I'd consider myself a talented scout and I have my hands full with 3 enemy. Cloak or no cloak that doesn't change. The cloak isn't going to allow a scrub to take on and beat 5 guys. If the cloaked scout wins he would have done it with our without the cloak. You know we can see you edited your post lol scrub tryna take back what he said ^ proof cloaks are broken. Like I I said only people defending are the ones abusing it and the ones who are relying on lol try again.

IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 127	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:28:00 - [41] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: PEOPLE ARE USING EQUIPMENT I HAVE NO INTEREST IN USING IN A WAY I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. PLEASE CHANGE THIS POST-HASTE CCP. Fixed the OP for you. lol your a character go ahead a keep editing those post lol.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 893	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:30:00 - [42] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: PEOPLE ARE USING EQUIPMENT I HAVE NO INTEREST IN USING IN A WAY I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. PLEASE CHANGE THIS POST-HASTE CCP. Fixed the OP for you. lol your a character go ahead a keep editing those post lol. this s getting old. Cloaks are fine, you just need to pay attention. And it's impractical to put it on anything but the squishiest targets. This is a good thing, as it makes scouts what they were before Uprising. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
jerrmy12 kahoalii 704	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:32:00 - [43] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: PEOPLE ARE USING EQUIPMENT I HAVE NO INTEREST IN USING IN A WAY I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. PLEASE CHANGE THIS POST-HASTE CCP. Fixed the OP for you. lol your a character go ahead a keep editing those post lol. So, what about people who use cloaking for stealth? Are we bad? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 22	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:34:00 - [44] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. 5 guys? 5!? I'd consider myself a talented scout and I have my hands full with 3 enemy. Cloak or no cloak that doesn't change. The cloak isn't going to allow a scrub to take on and beat 5 guys. If the cloaked scout wins he would have done it with our without the cloak. You know we can see you edited your post lol scrub tryna take back what he said ^ proof cloaks are broken. Like I I said only people defending are the ones abusing it and the ones who are relying on lol try again. I never said anything about the scouts being balanced, I NEVER speak about balance because I don't believe its possible or something anyone should actually want. That was someone else saying the cloak balanced scanners, you're confused. I edited my post to add this part: "5 guys? 5!? I'd consider myself a talented scout and I have my hands full with 3 enemy. Cloak or no cloak that doesn't change. The cloak isn't going to allow a scrub to take on and beat 5 guys. If the cloaked scout wins he would have done it with our without the cloak."
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 268	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:35:00 - [45] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: PEOPLE ARE USING EQUIPMENT I HAVE NO INTEREST IN USING IN A WAY I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. PLEASE CHANGE THIS POST-HASTE CCP. Fixed the OP for you. lol your a character go ahead a keep editing those post lol. So, what about people who use cloaking for stealth? Are we bad? jerrmy, just shut up already. Like oh my God. You are full of lies. Every match I see you in, you're in a tank, farming kills. Please. >CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!" *THE-TITANS* Director
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 22	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:36:00 - [46] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: PEOPLE ARE USING EQUIPMENT I HAVE NO INTEREST IN USING IN A WAY I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. PLEASE CHANGE THIS POST-HASTE CCP. Fixed the OP for you. lol your a character go ahead a keep editing those post lol. So, what about people who use cloaking for stealth? Are we bad? jerrmy, just shut up already. Like oh my God. You are full of lies. Every match I see you in, you're in a tank, farming kills. Please. TRUTH
jerrmy12 kahoalii 704	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:37:00 - [47] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: PEOPLE ARE USING EQUIPMENT I HAVE NO INTEREST IN USING IN A WAY I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. PLEASE CHANGE THIS POST-HASTE CCP. Fixed the OP for you. lol your a character go ahead a keep editing those post lol. So, what about people who use cloaking for stealth? Are we bad? jerrmy, just shut up already. Like oh my God. You are full of lies. Every match I see you in, you're in a tank, farming kills. Please. What? Im no tanker I havent been in a tank since.....very early march because the tank stomo was annoying, plus I barely used them, its kinda boring Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2107	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:38:00 - [48] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. 5 guys? 5!? I'd consider myself a talented scout and I have my hands full with 3 enemy. Cloak or no cloak that doesn't change. The cloak isn't going to allow a scrub to take on and beat 5 guys. If the cloaked scout wins he would have done it with our without the cloak. You know we can see you edited your post lol scrub tryna take back what he said ^ proof cloaks are broken. Like I I said only people defending are the ones abusing it and the ones who are relying on lol try again. SO, you've taken a poll? I guess you must because frankly, it seems like only you hold this position that the cloaks are to be used your way only, and that anything else is blasphemy. Oh, I mostly play logi, btw.
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 269	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:38:00 - [49] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: What? Im no tanker Bullshit and you know it. Next time I catch you in a match, I'm taping, so watch yourself, braggart. >CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!" *THE-TITANS* Director
jerrmy12 kahoalii 704	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:40:00 - [50] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: What? Im no tanker Bullshit and you know it. Next time I catch you in a match, I'm taping, so watch yourself, braggart. Ask people in scouts united and my corpies, I havent used a tank in a long time. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears

IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 127	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:49:00 - [51] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah For fucks sake will you HTFU please? The cloak is a tool just like everything else. Good players will use it to do whatever they need to do with it and you'll cri evytim, bad players will use it and DIE. 5 guys? 5!? I'd consider myself a talented scout and I have my hands full with 3 enemy. Cloak or no cloak that doesn't change. The cloak isn't going to allow a scrub to take on and beat 5 guys. If the cloaked scout wins he would have done it with our without the cloak. You know we can see you edited your post lol scrub tryna take back what he said ^ proof cloaks are broken. Like I I said only people defending are the ones abusing it and the ones who are relying on lol try again. I never said anything about the scouts being balanced, I NEVER speak about balance because I don't believe its possible or something anyone should actually want. That was someone else saying the cloak balanced scanners, you're confused. I edited my post to add this part: "5 guys? 5!? I'd consider myself a talented scout and I have my hands full with 3 enemy. Cloak or no cloak that doesn't change. The cloak isn't going to allow a scrub to take on and beat 5 guys. If the cloaked scout wins he would have done it with our without the cloak." lol w/e
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 269	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:57:00 - [52] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I havent been in a tank since.....very early march because the tank stomo was annoying, plus I barely used them, its kinda boring And I started playing Dust in November. You think I'd believe someone who scams random buyers for ISK? I think not. As if I'm blind you dummy. I see you in tanks all the time. >CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!" *THE-TITANS* Director
jerrmy12 kahoalii 710	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:09:00 - [53] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I havent been in a tank since.....very early march because the tank stomo was annoying, plus I barely used them, its kinda boring And I started playing Dust in November. You think I'd believe someone who scams random buyers for ISK? I think not. As if I'm blind you dummy. I see you in tanks all the time. Stop lying. Yea, no. Go ask my corp mates and scout squads, and parkour pacrutioner? Cant spell it. Jerrmy12 kahoalii My character, above, is not the one your looking for Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 309	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:12:00 - [54] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They need to change the way they function by making to where as though once you cloak then de-cloak you have to wait til it is fully recharged to cloak again. The cloaks should be intended for stealth such sneaking pass large amounts of enemies getting to objectives to drop links and to speed hack. As of right now everyone is using them for combat purposes. They sneak pass five guys get behind them de-cloak kill them then rinse and repeat. This is killing the role of the assault class and it needs to be fixed. they shouldn't be intended for that and there not. you sprint past groups of enemies and use it to hide in the shadows. your TV sux if a scout is sneaking past you and four other guys u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 309	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:16:00 - [55] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Point blank period it is broke and the people who want to defend it are just the ones that are abusing it and the ones who rely on it to get their kills. I for one do it just because everyone else is, I guarantee we will see a huge decrease in player activity because of this. It's not broken, you just have no-skill scrubs using it "improperly". CCP has stated that 1: PvP is inherently imbalanced. You will never have two people of similar skill (RL skill) going at it. 2: Even if things are intended for a specific use, they will be used for killing. And they enjoy that part. I'm a child that can admit that a piece of equipment is broken w/e I should of known not to waste my time trying to reason with a bunch of 16 yr olds. no it's just that your trying to reason with people who have a richer history in gaming that began before modern warfare 2 u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 134	Posted - 2014.03.28 05:42:00 - [56] - Quote Carebare 514 bunch of scrubs who finally got a crutch tool lol


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