They really need to fix the stacking plenty issue i thought u were ment to get deminishing returns?

Better yet remove shield andamour modules alltogether and have soft mods instead like more ammo greater scan range etc

No for either

It has to go both ways - they either hinder something on larger frames or forget the suggestion.

They have been doing the same in Medium suits since the game came out. Heavies can just twitch an HMG or stay on one side of the map and obliterate stuff. Tanks... yeah

OP is being ridiculous. A tanked scout cant be a fully damped scout cant be a super speed scout - at least not at the same time.
- He doesnt want to adapt so he runs back to his comfy zone.

Hope that hotfix is around the corner.

You realise, of course, that to scan your scout suit with two levels in the passive dampening skill - assuming you're not Gallente - I need either to use a prototype scanner or use a very specific suit?

Who said fully dampened?

The only suit that cares about being fully dampened is other scouts.

Super speed scout? Didn't complain about those.

I'm VERY SPECIFICALLY complaining about the ones that REPLICATE MY EXACT ROLE but BETTER.

They had just as much EHP as my assault suit.

They were faster. They were difficult to scan.

They sacrifice LITERALLY NOTHING to be BETTER at my role than I am.



Heavy dies outside 30m. Even Gal dies to my ScR, with his stupid high armour buffer.
Forge gun is strapped to a slow suit and is a single shot weapon that can be easily strafed around - especially if you're a scout.
MLT HAVs are brokenly good.

Scouts replicate nearly every role in the game. The cloak makes them even arguably better at point-defense than a heavy - who needs EHP when you're unscannable and invisible and carrying an OHKO weapon?

But I have no problem with a cloaked scout insta gibbing me with an alpha weapon.

I have no problem with a forge gun lol1shotting me.

I have no problem with an HMG shredding me inside his optimal.

I have a VERY GREAT PROBLEM with my role being made worthless by these skinnies, and I have an even BIGGER problem with apologists like you coming in and trying to spin what I'm saying.

GTFO.

Fuck off mate, I have ZERO problems with shotguns or NK or whatever.

I have a SERIOUS problem with my ENTIRE ROLE being COMPLETELY SUPERSEDED by these scouts.

Do you even know what a carebear is?



Yes. I only have two now.

This is not useful when I need those for heavies too.

This is what we use to say about min logis in particular. One day CCP will get it right...

I've not played enough 1.8 - I hope it's just a phase. If this becomes a FoTM thing I imagine I will be asking CCP to trade EHP against EWAR capability or something.

...

I have an issue with my suit's effectiveness being nulled.

No one seemed to give a crap when assaults and logis could do a scout's job better than scouts...

It's wrong when a suit can do another's job better, but seriously. The moment scouts finally get some love, everyone completely flips out.

Just finished a match where there were like four proto scouts on the other team.

Every one of them nearly as much EHP as my Assault ak.0.

And they're like 50% faster or something stupid like that.

Fuck that noise.


I have zero issues with heavies; shoot them from 50m and they're butter to my whatever-gun-I-have-in-my-hands-at-the-time.

Scouts?

They're just as tough as me, they're nearly unscannable (Proto or go home! I mean, I can invest into level 2 dampening and now my dragonfly is permanently dampened from ADV scanners), they can strafe SO much faster than me it isn't even funny.

Got no problem with cloaks; it's the light assaults - which EVERYONE knew was coming - that I have a serious issue with.

Fuck this. I'll be spamming uplinks from my Amarr Logi and hanging out in my tank.

Just finished a match where there were like four proto scouts on the other team.

Every one of them nearly as much EHP as my Assault ak.0.

And they're like 50% faster or something stupid like that.

Fuck that noise.


I have zero issues with heavies; shoot them from 50m and they're butter to my whatever-gun-I-have-in-my-hands-at-the-time.

Scouts?

They're just as tough as me, they're nearly unscannable (Proto or go home! I mean, I can invest into level 2 dampening and now my dragonfly is permanently dampened from ADV scanners), they can strafe SO much faster than me it isn't even funny.

Got no problem with cloaks; it's the light assaults - which EVERYONE knew was coming - that I have a serious issue with.

Fuck this. I'll be spamming uplinks from my Amarr Logi and hanging out in my tank.

no we don't ^^

not sure what scouts you've been facing but it's rare for me to show up on any radar.

I think he's referring to scout GK.0s, not CK.0s. the scout gk.0 can get like 750 armor, and I knew there were going to be a bunch of fotm chaser skilling into scout just because they got buffed.

The brick tanking Scouts are not technically Scouts they are FoTM chasers kind of like Railgun Tankers... *ducks*

You realise, of course, that to scan your scout suit with two levels in the passive dampening skill - assuming you're not Gallente - I need either to use a prototype scanner or use a very specific suit?

Who said fully dampened?

The only suit that cares about being fully dampened is other scouts.

Super speed scout? Didn't complain about those.

I'm VERY SPECIFICALLY complaining about the ones that REPLICATE MY EXACT ROLE but BETTER.

They had just as much EHP as my assault suit.

They were faster. They were difficult to scan.

They sacrifice LITERALLY NOTHING to be BETTER at my role than I am.



Heavy dies outside 30m. Even Gal dies to my ScR, with his stupid high armour buffer.
Forge gun is strapped to a slow suit and is a single shot weapon that can be easily strafed around - especially if you're a scout.
MLT HAVs are brokenly good.

Scouts replicate nearly every role in the game. The cloak makes them even arguably better at point-defense than a heavy - who needs EHP when you're unscannable and invisible and carrying an OHKO weapon?

But I have no problem with a cloaked scout insta gibbing me with an alpha weapon.

I have no problem with a forge gun lol1shotting me.

I have no problem with an HMG shredding me inside his optimal.

I have a VERY GREAT PROBLEM with my role being made worthless by these skinnies, and I have an even BIGGER problem with apologists like you coming in and trying to spin what I'm saying.

GTFO.

I run all armor reps in my lows...

Dat regen doh!

also I tend to just use my eyes,

Just finished a match where there were like four proto scouts on the other team.

Every one of them nearly as much EHP as my Assault ak.0.

And they're like 50% faster or something stupid like that.

Fuck that noise.


I have zero issues with heavies; shoot them from 50m and they're butter to my whatever-gun-I-have-in-my-hands-at-the-time.

Scouts?

They're just as tough as me, they're nearly unscannable (Proto or go home! I mean, I can invest into level 2 dampening and now my dragonfly is permanently dampened from ADV scanners), they can strafe SO much faster than me it isn't even funny.

Got no problem with cloaks; it's the light assaults - which EVERYONE knew was coming - that I have a serious issue with.

Fuck this. I'll be spamming uplinks from my Amarr Logi and hanging out in my tank.