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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:41:00 -
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Just finished a match where there were like four proto scouts on the other team.
Every one of them nearly as much EHP as my Assault ak.0.
And they're like 50% faster or something stupid like that.
Fu that noise.
I have zero issues with heavies; shoot them from 50m and they're butter to my whatever-gun-I-have-in-my-hands-at-the-time.
Scouts?
They're just as tough as me, they're nearly unscannable (Proto or go home! I mean, I can invest into level 2 dampening and now my dragonfly is permanently dampened from ADV scanners), they can strafe SO much faster than me it isn't even funny.
Got no problem with cloaks; it's the light assaults - which EVERYONE knew was coming - that I have a serious issue with.
Fuck this. I'll be spamming uplinks from my Amarr Logi and hanging out in my tank.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:00:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Your gonna hide from scouts in a tank lol what a pussay.
Fuck off mate, I've been tanking for more than a year now.
I have earned the right through blood, sweat and tears.
Scouts are RIDICULOUS right now.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:13:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:All Im reading is a carebear cuz there are people out there that know how to play this game effectively. I run a pro scout but am I a try hard and brick tank? No.
Fuck off mate, I have ZERO problems with shotguns or NK or whatever.
I have a SERIOUS problem with my ENTIRE ROLE being COMPLETELY SUPERSEDED by these scouts.
Do you even know what a carebear is?
Beren Hurin wrote:Grenades are your friend vs scouts.
Yes. I only have two now.
This is not useful when I need those for heavies too.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:15:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:I said 4 highs on a scout was too much before they even announced the slot layouts.
But did anyone listen!?
I'm gonna have to slap on a sandwich board & scream it in the streets.
sigh I think he's referring to scout GK.0s, not CK.0s. the scout gk.0 can get like 750 armor, and I knew there were going to be a bunch of fotm chaser skilling into scout just because they got buffed.
One of them was a ck.0 who had about 50 less shield and armour than me.
Don't get me wrong, I still really like my assault suit. It just infuriates me that my entire role has been superseded by the scout suits
There is literally nothing I can do more effectively than a scout can, at this point in the game.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:20:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:calisk galern wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I'm fine with it, scouts who tank HP show up on radar super easily
If it's really a problem then make it so putting on more than one armor plate or more than 2 shield extenders have a downside
EX. 2 plates give a 50% increase to their movement penalty
3 shield extenders increase dropsuit profile by 20% no we don't ^^ not sure what scouts you've been facing but it's rare for me to show up on any radar. Stackin dem precision mods bro I'm even scanning some cloak scouts
Great. "Hey guys, I found a great counter to tanks! It's more tanks!"
Yeah, nope.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:38:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I'm fine with it, scouts who tank HP show up on radar super easily
If it's really a problem then make it so putting on more than one armor plate or more than 2 shield extenders have a downside
EX. 2 plates give a 50% increase to their movement penalty
3 shield extenders increase dropsuit profile by 20% No for shueld penalty No for either It has to go both ways - they either hinder something on larger frames or forget the suggestion. They have been doing the same in Medium suits since the game came out. Heavies can just twitch an HMG or stay on one side of the map and obliterate stuff. Tanks... yeah OP is being ridiculous. A tanked scout cant be a fully damped scout cant be a super speed scout - at least not at the same time. - He doesnt want to adapt so he runs back to his comfy zone. Hope that hotfix is around the corner.
You realise, of course, that to scan your scout suit with two levels in the passive dampening skill - assuming you're not Gallente - I need either to use a prototype scanner or use a very specific suit?
Who said fully dampened?
The only suit that cares about being fully dampened is other scouts.
Super speed scout? Didn't complain about those.
I'm VERY SPECIFICALLY complaining about the ones that REPLICATE MY EXACT ROLE but BETTER.
They had just as much EHP as my assault suit.
They were faster. They were difficult to scan.
They sacrifice LITERALLY NOTHING to be BETTER at my role than I am.
Heavy dies outside 30m. Even Gal dies to my ScR, with his stupid high armour buffer.
Forge gun is strapped to a slow suit and is a single shot weapon that can be easily strafed around - especially if you're a scout.
MLT HAVs are brokenly good.
Scouts replicate nearly every role in the game. The cloak makes them even arguably better at point-defense than a heavy - who needs EHP when you're unscannable and invisible and carrying an OHKO weapon?
But I have no problem with a cloaked scout insta gibbing me with an alpha weapon.
I have no problem with a forge gun lol1shotting me.
I have no problem with an HMG shredding me inside his optimal.
I have a VERY GREAT PROBLEM with my role being made worthless by these skinnies, and I have an even BIGGER problem with apologists like you coming in and trying to spin what I'm saying.
GTFO.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:45:00 -
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Kam Elto wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Your gonna hide from scouts in a tank lol what a pussay. Fu ck off mate, I've been tanking for more than a year now. I have earned the right through blood, sweat and tears. Scouts are RIDICULOUS right now. Some of us have been running scout fits for more than a year also. We've earned the right through blood, sweat and tears not to have to run and hide when bullets start coming our way.
Yep. What role is my tank replicating utterly again?
I have zero issues with the playstyles of the old scouts.
I keep on saying this.
I have an issue with my suit's effectiveness being nulled.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:27:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:snip
Fuck this. I'll be spamming uplinks from my Amarr Logi and hanging out in my tank. +1 That might just be the funniest rage solution this week. It's a hard toss-up with the guy who arranged the diabolical departing-spam thread. Lorhak have single-handily solved the "waves of opportunity" issue. In order to spam the unplinks one must be vulnerable outside the HAV.
I run missiles.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2426
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:30:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:I'm an idiot for thinking heavies are OP now, and you're not for thinking scouts are? 
You're an idiot for thinking heavies are OP because you got outplayed in their environment.
My argument is simply that scouts (except Minmatar; not so much tank potential there) are mathematically superior in my role to me.
Any small EHP sacrifices they make are made up and then some by being: difficult to scan, extremely quick, possessed of a smaller hitbox.
Not 'my perfect team got outplayed because they put more guns in the city than we did'.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.27 07:54:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Just finished a match where there were like four proto scouts on the other team.
Every one of them nearly as much EHP as my Assault ak.0.
And they're like 50% faster or something stupid like that.
Fuck that noise.
I have zero issues with heavies; shoot them from 50m and they're butter to my whatever-gun-I-have-in-my-hands-at-the-time.
Scouts?
They're just as tough as me, they're nearly unscannable (Proto or go home! I mean, I can invest into level 2 dampening and now my dragonfly is permanently dampened from ADV scanners), they can strafe SO much faster than me it isn't even funny.
Got no problem with cloaks; it's the light assaults - which EVERYONE knew was coming - that I have a serious issue with.
Fuck this. I'll be spamming uplinks from my Amarr Logi and hanging out in my tank. My 350 eHP Min scout doesn't count right? Cause I'll still wreak havoc with that thing, and you would have no right to QQ
I think I implied that when I mentioned light-assaults - if you kill me with your 350HP frame I'll definitely suck it up and take my lumps :)
ak.0 4 LYFE
Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!?
<------This guy!!
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