DUST Search - Working as intended? Cloaks

Cotsy8 wrote:

8213 wrote:

I'm all for the cloak.
I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED!

Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told.
Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function.

Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once...

Did you break your leg? Wonder why all my fellow scouts need a cloak, it's just a crutch. If you can't okay scout then don't pick it. Cloaks are garbage, they are not required, they are just bullshit. They allow scouts to run directly at the front lines, it eliminates any skill to flanking or taking strategic routes.

All you crappy scouts seemed overjoyed with your new crutch. I don't hear any whining from the shotgunners who are able to get 2m away from you easily. It's just garbage to see scouts I know that are bad are now doing well all cause of this cloak.

Cloaks need to go.

Lack the skill to check before you hack, well you can use a cloak. Lack the skill to cross a map without being seen, well i have a cloak for you. Lack the skill to flank or sneak up in enemies, cloaks for everyone.

Cloaks are just terrible, scouts were fine before and now we got new equipment slot and more options, as well as another high on Gal and Low in min. Why the hell do you want to keep cloaks, or need them, you bitches shouldn't.

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8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1919	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:41:00 - [1] - Quote I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... I ain't got time for dat sh!t At least I'm not King ThunderBolt
Patrlck 56 351	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:45:00 - [2] - Quote 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. wat Whenever I even switch to one of my Weapons, my cloak deactivates. Also, thanks for taking what I said and putting it in your signature. -_- Best hatemail
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1919	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:47:00 - [3] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. wat Whenever I even switch to one of my Weapons, my cloak deactivates. Also, thanks for taking what I said and putting it in your signature. -_- There is latency between when you cloak deactivates and the actual animation occurs. I ain't got time for dat sh!t At least I'm not King ThunderBolt
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 91	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:55:00 - [4] - Quote 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... Did you break your leg? Wonder why all my fellow scouts need a cloak, it's just a crutch. If you can't okay scout then don't pick it. Cloaks are garbage, they are not required, they are just bullshit. They allow scouts to run directly at the front lines, it eliminates any skill to flanking or taking strategic routes. All you crappy scouts seemed overjoyed with your new crutch. I don't hear any whining from the shotgunners who are able to get 2m away from you easily. It's just garbage to see scouts I know that are bad are now doing well all cause of this cloak. Cloaks need to go. Lack the skill to check before you back, well you can use a cloak. Lack the skill to cross a map without being seen, well i have a cloak for you. Lack the skill to flank or sneak up in enemies, cloaks for everyone. Cloaks are just terrible, scouts were fine before and now we got new equipment slot and more options, as well as another high on Gal and Low in min. Why the hell do you want to keep cloaks, or need them, you bitches shouldn't.
Crashy Mc Boom-bewm flame riders 12	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:03:00 - [5] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... Did you break your leg? Wonder why all my fellow scouts need a cloak, it's just a crutch. If you can't okay scout then don't pick it. Cloaks are garbage, they are not required, they are just bullshit. They allow scouts to run directly at the front lines, it eliminates any skill to flanking or taking strategic routes. All you crappy scouts seemed overjoyed with your new crutch. I don't hear any whining from the shotgunners who are able to get 2m away from you easily. It's just garbage to see scouts I know that are bad are now doing well all cause of this cloak. Cloaks need to go. Lack the skill to check before you hack, well you can use a cloak. Lack the skill to cross a map without being seen, well i have a cloak for you. Lack the skill to flank or sneak up in enemies, cloaks for everyone. Cloaks are just terrible, scouts were fine before and now we got new equipment slot and more options, as well as another high on Gal and Low in min. Why the hell do you want to keep cloaks, or need them, you bitches shouldn't. You'd be surprised at how often you'll die while cloaked, it's not like your always invisible. As soon as you move just a little, your obvious because your surrounded with the blue FX.ive noticed another issue, after cloaking if you start to run immediately your speed will be halved. You have to wait a couple seconds before you can run at full speed, it's quit annoying. If at first it doesn't work, beat it with a brick.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8906	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:05:00 - [6] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... Did you break your leg? Wonder why all my fellow scouts need a cloak, it's just a crutch. If you can't okay scout then don't pick it. Cloaks are garbage, they are not required, they are just bullshit. They allow scouts to run directly at the front lines, it eliminates any skill to flanking or taking strategic routes. All you crappy scouts seemed overjoyed with your new crutch. I don't hear any whining from the shotgunners who are able to get 2m away from you easily. It's just garbage to see scouts I know that are bad are now doing well all cause of this cloak. Cloaks need to go. Lack the skill to check before you hack, well you can use a cloak. Lack the skill to cross a map without being seen, well i have a cloak for you. Lack the skill to flank or sneak up in enemies, cloaks for everyone. Cloaks are just terrible, scouts were fine before and now we got new equipment slot and more options, as well as another high on Gal and Low in min. Why the hell do you want to keep cloaks, or need them, you bitches shouldn't. Funsies brah? It takes all of 20 mins to figure out what gameplay style scouts require and an hour to get that down pat. After that its just a matter of refining my tactics. Exactly like I did when I was learning to tank....which was harder for me personally because vehicle play and fitting was different to infantry work..... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3130	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:09:00 - [7] - Quote Watching the video of the uplink camping cloaked scout it does appear that you get a few ounces off before you de-cloak. At the very least you are shooting as you become visible. Given normal human reaction time and the current TTK that does mean a free kill. That's exactly how I predicted the cloak would be used because there really isn't much else to use it for in this game of limited objectives.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1163	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:13:00 - [8] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... Did you break your leg? Wonder why all my fellow scouts need a cloak, it's just a crutch. If you can't okay scout then don't pick it. Cloaks are garbage, they are not required, they are just bullshit. They allow scouts to run directly at the front lines, it eliminates any skill to flanking or taking strategic routes. All you crappy scouts seemed overjoyed with your new crutch. I don't hear any whining from the shotgunners who are able to get 2m away from you easily. It's just garbage to see scouts I know that are bad are now doing well all cause of this cloak. Cloaks need to go. Lack the skill to check before you hack, well you can use a cloak. Lack the skill to cross a map without being seen, well i have a cloak for you. Lack the skill to flank or sneak up in enemies, cloaks for everyone. Cloaks are just terrible, scouts were fine before and now we got new equipment slot and more options, as well as another high on Gal and Low in min. Why the hell do you want to keep cloaks, or need them, you bitches shouldn't. Your either a garbage player, blind, or a troll. Cloak moving players are almost as easy to see as people who arnt cloaked at all
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2195	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:18:00 - [9] - Quote It's not hard to see a cloaked player except from a distance. Even when standing still there is a huge amount of shimmer. The shooting while de cloaking is nice imo, this is how I run my infiltrator in PS2. I hope it isn't nerfed or the cloak will become useless. If it is nerfed then give scouts 100% invisibility and no red reticle when cloaked. For the Federation!
SPACE SYPHILIS Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:19:00 - [10] - Quote I skilled into Cal Scout for it fit my play style and I skilled into the cloak for I had the SP. I do not see it as a crutch, I have used it a small amount to see what it can do and to answer a few questions. Once I had my answer I went back to my main choice which is heavy and have not used the suit since. To me I would use the role only when I grow tired of my heavy and need a change for the moment or for situations that call for it. Please do not call it a crutch because players are using it to help their game, they are only using the tools given to them and IMO that is a sign of maturity for they are adapting and realizing their weaknesses and finding a logical solution to overcome their past faults.

Jenova Rhapsodos Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 346	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:19:00 - [11] - Quote I'd also like to know if this is 'working as intended'. It definitely is not how we were told cloaks would work.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4923	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:22:00 - [12] - Quote 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... Dude, I've been getting redline sniped while cloaked. Believe me, you can't draw your weapon while cloaked, and I definitely never had any invulnerability all the times I got torn up like I wasn't even trying. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1924	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:35:00 - [13] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... Dude, I've been getting redline sniped while cloaked. Believe me, you can't draw your weapon while cloaked, and I definitely never had any invulnerability all the times I got torn up like I wasn't even trying. You mean a camping sniper was just sitting there with his sight up and you walked in front of it. What I have a problem with is, when a Scout is just standing there, and you can't see him, until AFTER he's shot you. Don't get me wrong, I'm having fun with this bullsht and I'm exploiting the fck out of it. I'm also tearing Scouts a new one with my railgun, because they think I'm to stupid to know where they are. The Cloak is a joke and a crutch. It only affects bad players. I ain't got time for dat sh!t At least I'm not King ThunderBolt
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1636	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:56:00 - [14] - Quote it's only one shotty round. the second round lands as the cloak falls the scout is visible for it. most kills with the cbr involve being fully decloaked for roughly 5 seconds assuming that the scout has 50% to immediately recloak.(travel times make this unlikely) damage is registered while in decloak so if you could update op with that it'd be appreciated. GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 447	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:02:00 - [15] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... Did you break your leg? Wonder why all my fellow scouts need a cloak, it's just a crutch. If you can't okay scout then don't pick it. Cloaks are garbage, they are not required, they are just bullshit. They allow scouts to run directly at the front lines, it eliminates any skill to flanking or taking strategic routes. All you crappy scouts seemed overjoyed with your new crutch. I don't hear any whining from the shotgunners who are able to get 2m away from you easily. It's just garbage to see scouts I know that are bad are now doing well all cause of this cloak. Cloaks need to go. Lack the skill to check before you hack, well you can use a cloak. Lack the skill to cross a map without being seen, well i have a cloak for you. Lack the skill to flank or sneak up in enemies, cloaks for everyone. Cloaks are just terrible, scouts were fine before and now we got new equipment slot and more options, as well as another high on Gal and Low in min. Why the hell do you want to keep cloaks, or need them, you bitches shouldn't. Being AV to try and counter the 6 enemy tanks and finding all 10 remaining enemies are proto cloaked shotgun scouts blowing you away from 2m when you're fruitlessly trying to dodge 6 blasters and maybe kill 1 militia tank = not fun.
Cinnamon267 106	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:24:00 - [16] - Quote I was getting wrecked by a cloaked proto shotgun scout earlier. I have 800ehp and he was 2 shotting me. Haven't felt that powerless since 2012 when missile tanks were bonkers insane powerful. Couldn't really do anything the entire match. That scout knew where I was at all times, it felt.
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 390	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:39:00 - [17] - Quote Revenge of the Scouts! Prepare your anus! No lube provided! Enjoy your ride suckers! bwhahahahahahahahaha.... sweet revenge.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1248	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:52:00 - [18] - Quote Cloak fixes: - Taking damage decloaks you with a recloak penalty delay of x seconds. - Hacking should decloak you. - There should be 2 ways to decloak yourself, you can fire while your cloak is equipped and you decloak and can then switch to your weapon and fire immediately or you can swap to a weapon or equipment item and remain cloaked, this WON'T decloak you. When you "fire" you decloak but don't actually shoot. You now have a delay of y seconds befor you can fire (maybe like 2 secs). This means you can ADS and line up a shot, decloak, and fire after some reasonable delay, or manually decloak and swap to your weapon with no delay. The choice will be yours with both options being useful in different situations. Best PvE idea ever!
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2713	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:05:00 - [19] - Quote Hack while cloaked, switch to your weapon while hacking. Weapon will now be out while cloaked, allowing you to fire. Also, the noise that's supposed to be there when you decloak isn't heard easily by nearby players. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 306	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:09:00 - [20] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. Also, the same code for spawn protection is being used for when a Scout does de-cloak. They aren't registering damage took until 2-seconds after the function. Almost, CCP. You almost got something right for once... Did you break your leg? Wonder why all my fellow scouts need a cloak, it's just a crutch. If you can't okay scout then don't pick it. Cloaks are garbage, they are not required, they are just bullshit. They allow scouts to run directly at the front lines, it eliminates any skill to flanking or taking strategic routes. All you crappy scouts seemed overjoyed with your new crutch. I don't hear any whining from the shotgunners who are able to get 2m away from you easily. It's just garbage to see scouts I know that are bad are now doing well all cause of this cloak. Cloaks need to go. Lack the skill to check before you hack, well you can use a cloak. Lack the skill to cross a map without being seen, well i have a cloak for you. Lack the skill to flank or sneak up in enemies, cloaks for everyone. Cloaks are just terrible, scouts were fine before and now we got new equipment slot and more options, as well as another high on Gal and Low in min. Why the hell do you want to keep cloaks, or need them, you bitches shouldn't. i need one because it helps boost the ego of people who are using dust to verify their manhood u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189

Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 306	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:12:00 - [21] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: It's not hard to see a cloaked player except from a distance. Even when standing still there is a huge amount of shimmer. The shooting while de cloaking is nice imo, this is how I run my infiltrator in PS2. I hope it isn't nerfed or the cloak will become useless. If it is nerfed then give scouts 100% invisibility and no red reticle when cloaked. theres no reason to nerf it, cloakers are dying left and right. noobs are trying to use it for a rush attack- fail. its a duck in the shadow move, and if anyone smart sees you cloak they shoot the spot you cloak at u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 870	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:32:00 - [22] - Quote Without tactics a cloaked scout is just gonna die. Tactical scouts are able to utilize the cloak to it's fullest in order to do there job. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Pisidon Gmen Ivory Vanguard 33	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:41:00 - [23] - Quote YEP JUST AS I THOUGHT IT WOULD CLOAKS ARE NOT WORKING LIKE THEY SHOULD AND CCP IS STUPID 4 ADDING A CRUTCH 4 SCOUTS THAT CARRY OP SHOT GUNS AS IT IS
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2738	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:43:00 - [24] - Quote As preditced the twitch players having trouble adjusting. Spoting a cloke is easy and it turns off the moment we switch guns their try using the device before coming out with rubish "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1934	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:45:00 - [25] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: As preditced the twitch players having trouble adjusting. Spoting a cloke is easy and it turns off the moment we switch guns their try using the device before coming out with rubish These paper scouts are piling up at my feet. They are garbage, and the cloak is useless. But a Scout can stand right in front of a doorway with a CR of SG and he gets the the alpha damage. CRs and SGs have a wicked amount of alpha. I ain't got time for dat sh!t At least I'm not King ThunderBolt
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 830	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:01:00 - [26] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: 8213 wrote: I'm all for the cloak. I'm not all for Scouts being able to fire their weapon WHILE CLOAKED! Being able to fire 1/2 of a CR magazine, or 2 shotguns shots before the cloak is deactivated is not what we were told. wat Whenever I even switch to one of my Weapons, my cloak deactivates. Also, thanks for taking what I said and putting it in your signature. -_- Yupp you decloak thats right but there is a small delay where cloak goes away as you don't become visible instantly...in general I am fine with this (apart from the spawn protection). Only stupid players fall to cloaked scouts, I have been killed once or twice by a cloaked scout and not once from the side or front (so the cloak does really mattered), apart from this I have been killed several times while cloaked, by players that know what they do. So based on my experience from test games on three alts the cloak in general seems fine, it is still situational, you are not invisible but you can surprise unaware/distracted players.


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