DUST Search - Isk payouts not enough to even cover a basic scout fit

DUST Fiend wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Grab a Soma with a MLT NOS, hardener and rep, just roll around and don't stop often. Gank unsuspecting people and run away from AV. Shoot vehicles as often as you can so long as you have the jump on them (particularly LAVs, over 300 WP for killing one)

Doing this will cost you no SP, and will increase your average payout to 300-400k ISK. If you feel threatened, activate your hardener and NOS, run for the redline and recall. You're all but guaranteed to turn a nice profit each match so long as there isn't a large railgun presence

Oh you are using MLT HAV oh those things are broken as ****.

Example of what tiericide does to something if done wrong......not to mention Soma are ****.

No I have a Winrugar, as I said.

I'm just saying that any brand new, 5 minute old character can do this and turn a hefty profit.

And you are using a single turret?

Again your tank is pretty poorly fitted.

I specifically emphasize that I am possibly the worst tanker in DUST. I roll around solo, sound off, blaring music, often stopping in the middle of the road to text or post on the forums.

I regularly go 20+/0 with solo orbitals. I'm just doing my part to highlight how simple and thoughtless tanking is, and how the "Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me" motto is alive and well in CCPs design philosophy ^_^

But, I've derailed this thread enough, the topic is about overpriced standard gear and crap payouts.

o7

"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"

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steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2736	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:21:00 - [1] - Quote from what i can work out a basic scout fit for the amarr can die the total of 5 times before running a loss. in effect basied on the KD i see for all mid teir players, its going to be impossible for new players to kind up any kind of isk across the suits, this needs to be adjusted very quickly or people are going to quit out of frustration. the only adv thing im fitting is the assult scram as a clokeing scout wont have the ability to get a charge shot ready. thoughts iv been saying isk payouts are two low for ages "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Eskimorris SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 34	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:23:00 - [2] - Quote Welcome to being a scout! Get good k thx
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4777	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:23:00 - [3] - Quote Just get rid of the cloak. Problem solved. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
Sgt Buttscratch R 0 N 1 N 2107	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:24:00 - [4] - Quote No. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2149	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:26:00 - [5] - Quote Do you like the patch? Have you been having fun or is it too broken for you to enjoy? "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2068	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:27:00 - [6] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: from what i can work out a basic scout fit for the amarr can die the total of 5 times before running a loss. in effect basied on the KD i see for all mid teir players, its going to be impossible for new players to kind up any kind of isk across the suits, this needs to be adjusted very quickly or people are going to quit out of frustration. the only adv thing im fitting is the assult scram as a clokeing scout wont have the ability to get a charge shot ready. thoughts iv been saying isk payouts are two low for ages Run with a logi, or frankly, learn to use the injector.
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 89	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:27:00 - [7] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Just get rid of the cloak. Problem solved. +100
Magnus the Wolf The Snack Pack 97	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:28:00 - [8] - Quote Really Steadyhand? I didn't expect you to be the first to lament something on the scout suit. Excellent. Welcome to scout life. Just an FYI. We've been dealing with this for forever and we're ok with it.
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 89	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:28:00 - [9] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Do you like the patch? Have you been having fun or is it too broken for you to enjoy? This isn't counter-strike the damn spawn times are 12-15 seconds FFS. It feels like forever to get back in the game.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 293	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:31:00 - [10] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Do you like the patch? Have you been having fun or is it too broken for you to enjoy? This isn't counter-strike the damn spawn times are 12-15 seconds FFS. It feels like forever to get back in the game. Good. Maybe make it so that you can spawn faster back at the mcc or something. Killing someone and having them return in 3 seconds is BS, as they come back full health and everything while you may still be recharging, repairing, or rearming Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...

The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2149	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:34:00 - [11] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Cotsy8 wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Do you like the patch? Have you been having fun or is it too broken for you to enjoy? This isn't counter-strike the damn spawn times are 12-15 seconds FFS. It feels like forever to get back in the game. Good. Maybe make it so that you can spawn faster back at the mcc or something. Killing someone and having them return in 3 seconds is BS, as they come back full health and everything while you may still be recharging, repairing, or rearming Some of the uplilnk times do seem excessive but the price for a speedy spawn is specialization. I do see a slight buff to ULs helping and I mean a slight buff. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2736	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:38:00 - [12] - Quote iv been enjoying my scout a LOT! but i think its price needs to be adjusted now the scout community has a trails beta vet to scream blue bloody murder for them :D, really one of guys should have posted maths or something. removing a basic cloke is not an option the device is intended as a scouts core equipment saying a scout cant do his job beucase he is locked out price wise is stuiped. if its been this way for a while im surprised not more fuss has been made "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 846	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:41:00 - [13] - Quote People complain about proto stompers, CCP turns down income. Crappy players can no longer afford proto. The donut corps will be free to do as they wish. Working as intended. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 835	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:44:00 - [14] - Quote Welcome to the life of being a broke ass Scout. I'm constantly hovering between 10 - 15 million ISK because it is expensive and the odds are i'm going to die enough to eat up my profits. I been running nothing but standard lately because I actually wanted some cash for this patch so I could blow some on proto stuff for once.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2736	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:49:00 - [15] - Quote as far as i can tell only scouts have this problem so it should be a simple fix on reducing the price of scout suits i think proabalby a hangover from old desgin goals just need to jump up and down a lot ot get ccp to notice "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 272	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:50:00 - [16] - Quote Havent played 1.8 yet but I made the comment last week that it was going to bump up Scout fits ISK wise. I'm not that good but most of the time I make easy profit. I run std scout suits though and go positive most games. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1912	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:03:00 - [17] - Quote My basic scout fit is like 5k. 8k if I'm feeling lucky. I'd have to die 20 times to not name a profit lol My scanner is detecting a fake scout.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2736	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:38:00 - [18] - Quote joel whats your fitting beucase im just using basic mods on mine amarr scout by the adv assult gun which im more than likely gunna have to drop "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12549	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:40:00 - [19] - Quote Grab a Soma with a MLT NOS, hardener and rep, just roll around and don't stop often. Gank unsuspecting people and run away from AV. Shoot vehicles as often as you can so long as you have the jump on them (particularly LAVs, over 300 WP for killing one) Doing this will cost you no SP, and will increase your average payout to 300-400k ISK. If you feel threatened, activate your hardener and NOS, run for the redline and recall. You're all but guaranteed to turn a nice profit each match so long as there isn't a large railgun presence "It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2736	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:43:00 - [20] - Quote uh i can make a profit if i want too, but my point is that using any setup of basic modules should be returning a profit unless you do shockingly bad, otherwise that fit is not cost effective and will never get used "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8903	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:44:00 - [21] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Grab a Soma with a MLT NOS, hardener and rep, just roll around and don't stop often. Gank unsuspecting people and run away from AV. Shoot vehicles as often as you can so long as you have the jump on them (particularly LAVs, over 300 WP for killing one) Doing this will cost you no SP, and will increase your average payout to 300-400k ISK. If you feel threatened, activate your hardener and NOS, run for the redline and recall. You're all but guaranteed to turn a nice profit each match so long as there isn't a large railgun presence Oh you are using MLT HAV oh those things are broken as **. Example of what tiericide does to something if done wrong......not to mention Soma are *. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"* -Dagger Two
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12549	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:45:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Grab a Soma with a MLT NOS, hardener and rep, just roll around and don't stop often. Gank unsuspecting people and run away from AV. Shoot vehicles as often as you can so long as you have the jump on them (particularly LAVs, over 300 WP for killing one) Doing this will cost you no SP, and will increase your average payout to 300-400k ISK. If you feel threatened, activate your hardener and NOS, run for the redline and recall. You're all but guaranteed to turn a nice profit each match so long as there isn't a large railgun presence Oh you are using MLT HAV oh those things are broken as **. Example of what tiericide does to something if done wrong......not to mention Soma are **. No I have a Winrugar, as I said. I'm just saying that any brand new, 5 minute old character can do this and turn a hefty profit. "It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 849	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:46:00 - [23] - Quote What mods are you running? Extenders/plates/kin cats etc are very expensive. Switch to the cheap mods like precision enhancers, range amps, cardiac regs and you'll stop in price. Drop the cloak, only run one nice weapon. You don't need pro rifle, pro sidearm, and pro mods. Got to learn to budget until you really need it.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8903	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:46:00 - [24] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Grab a Soma with a MLT NOS, hardener and rep, just roll around and don't stop often. Gank unsuspecting people and run away from AV. Shoot vehicles as often as you can so long as you have the jump on them (particularly LAVs, over 300 WP for killing one) Doing this will cost you no SP, and will increase your average payout to 300-400k ISK. If you feel threatened, activate your hardener and NOS, run for the redline and recall. You're all but guaranteed to turn a nice profit each match so long as there isn't a large railgun presence Oh you are using MLT HAV oh those things are broken as **. Example of what tiericide does to something if done wrong......not to mention Soma are *. No I have a Winrugar, as I said. I'm just saying that any brand new, 5 minute old character can do this and turn a hefty profit. And you are using a single turret? Again your tank is pretty poorly fitted. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"* -Dagger Two
Tectonic Fusion 1316	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:47:00 - [25] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Welcome to the life of being a broke ass Scout. I'm constantly hovering between 10 - 15 million ISK because it is expensive and the odds are i'm going to die enough to eat up my profits. I been running nothing but standard lately because I actually wanted some cash for this patch so I could blow some on proto stuff for once. 46-50 million for me Solo Player Squad status: Locked
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12549	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:48:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Grab a Soma with a MLT NOS, hardener and rep, just roll around and don't stop often. Gank unsuspecting people and run away from AV. Shoot vehicles as often as you can so long as you have the jump on them (particularly LAVs, over 300 WP for killing one) Doing this will cost you no SP, and will increase your average payout to 300-400k ISK. If you feel threatened, activate your hardener and NOS, run for the redline and recall. You're all but guaranteed to turn a nice profit each match so long as there isn't a large railgun presence Oh you are using MLT HAV oh those things are broken as **. Example of what tiericide does to something if done wrong......not to mention Soma are **. No I have a Winrugar, as I said. I'm just saying that any brand new, 5 minute old character can do this and turn a hefty profit. And you are using a single turret? Again your tank is pretty poorly fitted. I specifically emphasize that I am possibly the worst tanker in DUST. I roll around solo, sound off, blaring music, often stopping in the middle of the road to text or post on the forums. I regularly go 20+/0 with solo orbitals. "It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8904	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:55:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Grab a Soma with a MLT NOS, hardener and rep, just roll around and don't stop often. Gank unsuspecting people and run away from AV. Shoot vehicles as often as you can so long as you have the jump on them (particularly LAVs, over 300 WP for killing one) Doing this will cost you no SP, and will increase your average payout to 300-400k ISK. If you feel threatened, activate your hardener and NOS, run for the redline and recall. You're all but guaranteed to turn a nice profit each match so long as there isn't a large railgun presence Oh you are using MLT HAV oh those things are broken as **. Example of what tiericide does to something if done wrong......not to mention Soma are *. No I have a Winrugar, as I said. I'm just saying that any brand new, 5 minute old character can do this and turn a hefty profit. And you are using a single turret? Again your tank is pretty poorly fitted. I specifically emphasize that I am possibly the worst tanker in DUST. I roll around solo, sound off, blaring music, often stopping in the middle of the road to text or post on the forums. I regularly go 20+/0 with solo orbitals. I'm just doing my part to highlight how simple and thoughtless tanking is, and how the "Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me" motto is alive and well in CCPs design philosophy ^_^ But, I've derailed this thread enough, the topic is about overpriced standard gear and crap payouts. o7 But why to do you actively hunt infantry and run from tanks? Far more entertaining to hunt tanks and maybe if you give them enough though hunt infantry.... tbh I do run a blaster HAV but my job isnt to kill infantry its to protect my gunners/hackers. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"* -Dagger Two
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2150	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:55:00 - [28] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: uh i can make a profit if i want too, but my point is that using any setup of basic modules should be returning a profit unless you do shockingly bad, otherwise that fit is not cost effective and will never get used I agree, basic and militia should always turn a profit, advanced fist should also but not as much and prototype shouldn't profit much or at all unless they are really good and just don't die. Complex mods aren't usually worth the price increase over advanced unless you are just barely coming up short in that particular area. I'll say it again, if you can't do it in advanced then you probably can't do it. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12551	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:57:00 - [29] - Quote True Adamance wrote: But why to do you actively hunt infantry and run from tanks? Far more entertaining to hunt tanks and maybe if you give them enough though hunt infantry.... tbh I do run a blaster HAV but my job isnt to kill infantry its to protect my gunners/hackers. I do hunt tanks, I was saying you probably shouldn't hunt tanks in a Soma. I'm a solo player, I don't care if we win or lose, I'm just here for the ISK and the kills. "It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2151	Posted - 2014.03.26 00:00:00 - [30] - Quote I have a dragonfly with two greens, something on the high and now two uplinks. Costs like 10k, it makes ISK hand over fist and it is fun to run. Lots of people are risk adverse(afraid to die, or lose ISK) and their game suffers. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke



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