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Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1465	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:18:00 - [1] - Quote I have maxed laser proficiency so I try a laser on an amarr assault suit and went 0 and 5. Tried several games with very poor results before saying ELM I choose you!! in the hopes of much better performance. Results were a bit better 3 and 5. Then I said Viziam! I choose you and tested for several games and results were mediocre?? Really? all these MONTHS waiting for a fix and the laser is still MEDIOCRE. Then I got a militia Caldari Assault with an EXO and went 10 and 3, 11 and 4, 14 and 3, Not good results but much BETTER than the mediocre laser. Really CCP you better have a magic super rabbit in a hat for Fanfest. Sorry but it looks like its Infamous PS4 and other PS4 games in June. P.S.: and a 20% reduction to squishy heavies health??? TERRIBLE "idea" Talk to the sig. CCP. TL, DR: Lasers SUCK Massdrivers are better. A 20% reduction to heavies health is a Homer Simpson. I hear the siren call of PS4 games in June/July. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Tectonic Fusion 1307	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:21:00 - [2] - Quote LOL I do way better than 0 and 5 in 1.7. Though I haven't been got to get on my Ps3, so I wouldn't know if the laser is better. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries 535	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:22:00 - [3] - Quote Maybe your just not good with it.........
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 372	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:22:00 - [4] - Quote Amarr assault heat bonuses are currently bugged, and the further improved heat cost reductions on adv and pro didn't happen - they're currently the same as basic... Aside from that the redone range is amazing - half dmg at 2m and prettymuch full dmg out to 110.
Nocturnal Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2513	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:23:00 - [5] - Quote The Amarr assault bonus is broken. Which is mainly the reasons you did bad. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1465	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:29:00 - [6] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Amarr assault bonus is broken. Which is mainly the reasons you did bad. Why does a ranged proto weapon with maxxed proficiency need a bonus tied to a suit to be effective?? Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1465	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:42:00 - [7] - Quote . Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Derek Barnes 0uter.Heaven 445	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:47:00 - [8] - Quote So far I went 20-0 in a match with the viziam laser. Im using the Commando ak.0 which gives me 10% damage increase with the laser.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1465	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:51:00 - [9] - Quote Derek Barnes wrote: So far I went 20-0 in a match with the viziam laser. Im using the Commando ak.0 which gives me 10% damage increase with the laser. I had a single good game with a Viziam when the otherside were randoms But versus known Corporations I had better results with a massdriver or a shotgun or remotes. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 370	Posted - 2014.03.25 20:56:00 - [10] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: I had a single good game with a Viziam when the otherside were randoms But versus known Corporations I had better results with a massdriver or a shotgun or remotes. That right there says it. I'm skeptical. You just need better squadmates/blueberries. I'm a beast at this game but when I'm up against a "known corporation" that wipes the floor with my team, I can't help but go negative and do poorly. I don't really feel like trying it but I might just to see how much truth there is in your argument. I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1467	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:05:00 - [11] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: I had a single good game with a Viziam when the otherside were randoms But versus known Corporations I had better results with a massdriver or a shotgun or remotes. That right there says it. I'm skeptical. You just need better squadmates/blueberries. I'm a beast at this game but when I'm up against a "known corporation" that wipes the floor with my team, I can't help but go negative and do poorly. I don't really feel like trying it but I might just to see how much truth there is in your argument. It comes down to if you run proto and the other guy runs proto then the deciding factor is typically who can apply more DPS. If its a bunch of randoms on the otherside then in most cases they will only be running advanced , basic or militia. When running a laser its choose your battles to be 1 versus 1 then it comes down to the weapons in most cases. In other words squaded up versus another squad and running laser...meh! results. Squadded up versus the same squad in another battle and running EXO , shotgun or remotes and my skillzzz by magic improved?? Nothing to do with the laser? Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1475	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:20:00 - [12] - Quote I remember when in 1.6 I said the laser was going to be useless but got told to get gud by many folks. But 1.7 hit and I was right the laser was dead. In 1.8 the laser got a range buff but its still underpowered. You can take a 3 million sp alt and do ok with rail rifles, combat rifles, scrambler rifles, shotguns but try it with a laser and its mediocre. Eh June or July will sort the problem with a PS4 console migration. Sorry CCP . Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 860	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:23:00 - [13] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Amarr assault bonus is broken. Which is mainly the reasons you did bad. Why does a ranged proto weapon with maxxed proficiency need a bonus tied to a suit to be effective?? It doesn't need it to be effective, just... optimized. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Bro-metheus Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 47	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:26:00 - [14] - Quote LR is bugged/broken wait for ccp to fix it should get a decent bump in performance
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 625	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:28:00 - [15] - Quote Bro-metheus wrote: LR is bugged/broken wait for ccp to fix it should get a decent bump in performance "Just wait" is CCP's motto.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1475	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:35:00 - [16] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Amarr assault bonus is broken. Which is mainly the reasons you did bad. Why does a ranged proto weapon with maxxed proficiency need a bonus tied to a suit to be effective?? It doesn't need it to be effective, just... optimized. When I spend several MILLION SP into a ranged proto weapon its expecting it to KILL enemies. And what really bothers me is this? is what was delivered after several MONTHS of a supposed fix?? Makes note on agenda: Check stores for PS4 consoles. Sorry CCP. Getting real tired of BUGS514 Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1245	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:35:00 - [17] - Quote For me the litmus test for LR viability is if it can reliably beat the RR at some range. It has a TON of major drawbacks, which are all fine and part of what gives it it's own "personality." It needs to have a range where it dominates all other weapons to compensate though. The RR has very few drawbacks and is the main competitor to the LR's niche. The current range buff may not be enough (the effective might need an extra 10-20m). With the bugs to heat buildup with Amarr Assault, and the bug where heat isn't changing based on weapon tier, I haven't been able to really tell whether it still needs love. Have any of you had experience with 1v1 against a RR? Were you able to find a range that was effective against them? Best PvE idea ever!
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1475	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:40:00 - [18] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: For me the litmus test for LR viability is if it can reliably beat the RR at some range. It has a TON of major drawbacks, which are all fine and part of what gives it it's own "personality." It needs to have a range where it dominates all other weapons to compensate though. The RR has very few drawbacks and is the main competitor to the LR's niche. The current range buff may not be enough (the effective might need an extra 10-20m). With the bugs to heat buildup with Amarr Assault, and the bug where heat isn't changing based on weapon tier, I haven't been able to really tell whether it still needs love. Have any of you had experience with 1v1 against a RR? Were you able to find a range that was effective against them? 1 v1 was disapointing. The way to make the laser work is you need a heavy on your squad to act as bait so that the laser user can kill the rail rifle user. The problem with this is why bother when its better to have two rail riflers shooting at the enemy. The laser still needs an extra 10m to 20m extra range. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Absoliav Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 144	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:40:00 - [19] - Quote I'm not convinced, I got killed by a Am-Commando earlier today using basic LR in a basic suit, while I was a Gal-Commando pretty quickly. I honestly thought he would overheat before he could kill me since I had more than 550 armor, I also thought I could make it to cover before he would overheat. I'm not too sure how much better the LR is but since I haven't given it a spin yet, but I'm pretty sure it's not as bad as you say it is. EDIT: Not referring to the bugs we are currently dealing with.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2218	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:43:00 - [20] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: Maybe your just not good with it......... or the bonuses dont work...

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1476	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:45:00 - [21] - Quote Absoliav wrote: I'm not convinced, I got killed by a Am-Commando earlier today using basic LR in a basic suit, while I was a Gal-Commando pretty quickly. I honestly thought he would overheat before he could kill me since I had more than 550 armor, I also thought I could make it to cover before he would overheat. I'm not too sure how much better the LR is but since I haven't given it a spin yet, but I'm pretty sure it's not as bad as you say it is. Using a ranged laser to toast a slow moving suit is doable. The problem is trying to toast a faster moving medium or light suit that also has a ranged weapon like a rail rifle. My options are to just wait until I spot some slow moving suits in the hopes of some laser kills or to just say meh!! and run shotgun for much better results. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1476	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:50:00 - [22] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Greasepalms wrote: Maybe your just not good with it......... or the bonuses dont work... Sigh yeah. Funny how a zero sp militia shotgun gets plenty of kills. when trying to use a three million sp investment prototype laser I expect more kills not LESS kills. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Rorick Crawely SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 29	Posted - 2014.03.26 05:56:00 - [23] - Quote Now I don't use a LR at all but I have been seeing them in the feeds (And all over my face ) more often now, that being said I get wrecked by lasers if the user should encounter me at range. I run Proto scouts mainly (Dedicated scout for months now) but I do have both Adv medium frames and Commandos and if I am in either suit I seldom make it out alive. So they don't seem underpowered to me The only time I'll kill a LR user in a 1v1 is if I engage him in at around 50m...
Absoliav Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 144	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:00:00 - [24] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Using a ranged laser to toast a slow moving suit is doable. The problem is trying to toast a faster moving medium or light suit that also has a ranged weapon like a rail rifle. My options are to just wait until I spot some slow moving suits in the hopes of some laser kills or to just say meh!! and run shotgun for much better results. I understand your point then, you're saying it just doesn't compare to other, more flexible options, in that case I agree with you, it's the only weapon that demands time and skill to kill a target yet offers little compared to it's competition. I think the recent changes were a step in the right direction, but I agree with you that it still needs a bit more.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1248	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:01:00 - [25] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Vell0cet wrote: For me the litmus test for LR viability is if it can reliably beat the RR at some range. It has a TON of major drawbacks, which are all fine and part of what gives it it's own "personality." It needs to have a range where it dominates all other weapons to compensate though. The RR has very few drawbacks and is the main competitor to the LR's niche. The current range buff may not be enough (the effective might need an extra 10-20m). With the bugs to heat buildup with Amarr Assault, and the bug where heat isn't changing based on weapon tier, I haven't been able to really tell whether it still needs love. Have any of you had experience with 1v1 against a RR? Were you able to find a range that was effective against them? 1 v1 was disapointing. The way to make the laser work is you need a heavy on your squad to act as bait so that the laser user can kill the rail rifle user. The problem with this is why bother when its better to have two rail riflers shooting at the enemy. The laser still needs an extra 10m to 20m extra range. If you take 2 identical suits and give one guy a RR and the other a LR of the same tier, there should be some range where the LR kicks the crap out of the RR every time. No bait or other shenanigans, it should simply be the best weapon available for that range. If its not the case, then it needs more range (and a proportional increase in scope zoom) until this becomes true. Sadly we won't know this for sure until the hotfix, by which time it would be too late to add more range (should balancing require it). Best PvE idea ever!
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1478	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:03:00 - [26] - Quote Rorick Crawely wrote: Now I don't use a LR at all but I have been seeing them in the feeds (And all over my face ) more often now, that being said I get wrecked by lasers if the user should encounter me at range. I run Proto scouts mainly (Dedicated scout for months now) but I do have both Adv medium frames and Commandos and if I am in either suit I seldom make it out alive. So they don't seem underpowered to me The only time I'll kill a LR user in a 1v1 is if I engage him in at around 50m... You mean when a laser user scores a lucky hit to either your back or your side when you are distracted. I am talking about going 1 v1 when folks are NOT distracted gets diffrent results. The options being run a rail rifle or wait until they are distracted or say meh!! and run cloak plus shotgun for better results. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1478	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:05:00 - [27] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Vell0cet wrote: For me the litmus test for LR viability is if it can reliably beat the RR at some range. It has a TON of major drawbacks, which are all fine and part of what gives it it's own "personality." It needs to have a range where it dominates all other weapons to compensate though. The RR has very few drawbacks and is the main competitor to the LR's niche. The current range buff may not be enough (the effective might need an extra 10-20m). With the bugs to heat buildup with Amarr Assault, and the bug where heat isn't changing based on weapon tier, I haven't been able to really tell whether it still needs love. Have any of you had experience with 1v1 against a RR? Were you able to find a range that was effective against them? 1 v1 was disapointing. The way to make the laser work is you need a heavy on your squad to act as bait so that the laser user can kill the rail rifle user. The problem with this is why bother when its better to have two rail riflers shooting at the enemy. The laser still needs an extra 10m to 20m extra range. If you take 2 identical suits and give one guy a RR and the other a LR of the same tier, there should be some range where the LR kicks the crap out of the RR every time. No bait or other shenanigans, it should simply be the best weapon available for that range. If its not the case, then it needs more range (and a proportional increase in scope zoom) until this becomes true. Sadly we won't know this for sure until the hotfix, by which time it would be too late to add more range (should balancing require it). AGREED. I deleted my laser fits...sigh. I will try again in a few days. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3731	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:06:00 - [28] - Quote adios! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Dust Project 514 Care Bear Cub 309	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:46:00 - [29] - Quote Haven't seen a single person die from it today. Oh and hey. Remember the Plasma Cannon? Yeah CCP doesn't, either.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1480	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:22:00 - [30] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: Haven't seen a single person die from it today. Oh and hey. Remember the Plasma Cannon? Yeah CCP doesn't, either. I tried the Plasma cannon and its a long range shotgun if only it had a three or four round clip it will make me run it instead of trying the laser .....sigh. back to shotgun scout pop pop pop +50 I feel sorry for the folks running fatsuits Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance

STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 253	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:45:00 - [31] - Quote I ran the laser yesterday and went 14/9/1 using the ELM-7 with 2 enhanced dmg mods, an ION pistol, all on an adv scout suit. I was even beating RR users, as well as snipers and other laser rifle users. I've got proficiency 3 in it currently. If you look at the stats the weapon dmg has increased per tier now. Don't burst fire it either since that resets its dmg back, just hold the trigger until you get close to overheating.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 255	Posted - 2014.03.26 17:59:00 - [32] - Quote I am patiently waiting for Destiny
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3688	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:07:00 - [33] - Quote The sensitivity and aim-assist are the biggest problems I've come across. The ADS has the sensitivity of 1.7, despite having been given much greater zoom. So your aim just swings wildly about. Meanwhile the RR's aim-assist works at range but the Laser's doesn't. I find myself having to strafe aim even at 0 sensitivity. No.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1485	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:09:00 - [34] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I ran the laser yesterday and went 14/9/1 using the ELM-7 with 2 enhanced dmg mods, an ION pistol, all on an adv scout suit. I was even beating RR users, as well as snipers and other laser rifle users. I've got proficiency 3 in it currently. If you look at the stats the weapon dmg has increased per tier now. Don't burst fire it either since that resets its dmg back, just hold the trigger until you get close to overheating. but if you have to run damage modules with a laser that has proficiency it just points out that its still UP. oh well either its fixed sooner or later or the PS4 migration will fix the problem . Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1485	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:11:00 - [35] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: The sensitivity and aim-assist are the biggest problems I've come across. The ADS has the sensitivity of 1.7, despite having been given much greater zoom. So your aim just swings wildly about. Meanwhile the RR's aim-assist works at range but the Laser's doesn't. I find myself having to strafe aim even at 0 sensitivity. those were my results also ......sigh Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1762	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:16:00 - [36] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Derek Barnes wrote: So far I went 20-0 in a match with the viziam laser. Im using the Commando ak.0 which gives me 10% damage increase with the laser. I had a single good game with a Viziam when the otherside were randoms But versus known Corporations I had better results with a massdriver or a shotgun or remotes. This pretty much describes success with the LR. I actually feel like the laser got worse. Still out ranged by Rail Rifle. Did the Laser Rifle changes get implemented? Because if they did, they must of increased base damage and reduced damage build up at the same time. Or, they never changed it at all. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1486	Posted - 2014.03.26 19:22:00 - [37] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Derek Barnes wrote: So far I went 20-0 in a match with the viziam laser. Im using the Commando ak.0 which gives me 10% damage increase with the laser. I had a single good game with a Viziam when the otherside were randoms But versus known Corporations I had better results with a massdriver or a shotgun or remotes. This pretty much describes success with the LR. I actually feel like the laser got worse. Still out ranged by Rail Rifle. Did the Laser Rifle changes get implemented? Because if they did, they must of increased base damage and reduced damage build up at the same time. Or, they never changed it at all. before the laser optimal was too small but at least the damage was a dependable amount now it feels like the base damage was increased but the RAMPUP damage is much lower looks like better laser range was traded for lower total damage delivered. laser feels worse than it was in 1.7.........sigh. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2014.03.26 19:32:00 - [38] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Greasepalms wrote: Maybe your just not good with it......... or the bonuses dont work... Or the laser rifle does really suck which is why you see your typical deaths in a match being RaiGun > Combat Rifle > HMG/Shotgun/AR And while I'm pretty sure I am taking facts out of my **** like dollar bills, you'll probably die from a laser less often as you would from Nova Knife stealth users and SMG proto scouts in cloaks. Yes a laser gun exists in the game but it doesn't mean it's "useful" to use. It's like asking which would you use: basic, logistic or assault suit? Most players would do either basic or logi. There's obvious interest now in the Caldari and Min Assaults but it's still really between one or the other once skill points are accounted for.
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 623	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:07:00 - [39] - Quote So a big part of the problem with the laser is that it is only viable on one suit, same with the scrambler rifle. Sure they can be decent weapons, on one suit. The only way these weapons even come close to competing is on one suit. The only way you can justify the ridiculously high fittings requirements is if you use one suit. Yep, great weapons if you use one suit. (no the amarr commando is not very good, trust me. It overheats like crazy) While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1972	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:12:00 - [40] - Quote When you tested it were you running alone or in a squad? My first game yesterday was on an alt I had trained into lasers, went out with level 5 in amarr assault (adv suit) with an ELM and got roflstomped. Later in a squad on my main, using a templar laser with next to no skills in it, I did pretty decent with it. Mostly assists, but a few kills too. Blew the shields right off people like a puff of steam.

Skihids Bullet Cluster 3141	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:15:00 - [41] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: I have maxed laser proficiency so I try a laser on an amarr assault suit and went 0 and 5. Tried several games with very poor results before saying ELM I choose you!! in the hopes of much better performance. Results were a bit better 3 and 5. Then I said Viziam! I choose you and tested for several games and results were mediocre?? Really? all these MONTHS waiting for a fix and the laser is still MEDIOCRE. Then I got a militia Caldari Assault with an EXO and went 10 and 3, 11 and 4, 14 and 3, Not good results but much BETTER than the mediocre laser. Really CCP you better have a magic super rabbit in a hat for Fanfest. Sorry but it looks like its Infamous PS4 and other PS4 games in June. P.S.: and a 20% reduction to squishy heavies health??? TERRIBLE "idea" Talk to the sig. CCP. TL, DR: Lasers SUCK Massdrivers are better. A 20% reduction to heavies health is a Homer Simpson. I hear the siren call of PS4 games in June/July. A 3:1 KDR is "Not good"? The average is 1:1. Is this Lake Woebegone where everyone has to be above average to be good?
Musta Tornius Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1228	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:20:00 - [42] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Derek Barnes wrote: So far I went 20-0 in a match with the viziam laser. Im using the Commando ak.0 which gives me 10% damage increase with the laser. I had a single good game with a Viziam when the otherside were randoms But versus known Corporations I had better results with a massdriver or a shotgun or remotes. This pretty much describes success with the LR. I actually feel like the laser got worse. Still out ranged by Rail Rifle. Did the Laser Rifle changes get implemented? Because if they did, they must of increased base damage and reduced damage build up at the same time. Or, they never changed it at all. before the laser optimal was too small but at least the damage was a dependable amount now it feels like the base damage was increased but the RAMPUP damage is much lower looks like better laser range was traded for lower total damage delivered. laser feels worse than it was in 1.7.........sigh. G Torq and I done a followup analysis on laser in 1.8, not to mention I spoke to some CCP peeps. Basically the heat how it is now is correct, the patch notes were incorrect. The amarr assault is bugged but that's different. The laser has faster ramp up damage than before, it used to be 0.8 extra per shot but it's now 0.91, 0.94 and 1.04 for std adv and proto. Not to mention base damage is higher too on adv and proto. tldr; the laser is much stronger than before, about 20% for standard laser compared to 1.7. The optimal ranges, well just check my signature :) it's insane but shhhhh. DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 254	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:29:00 - [43] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I ran the laser yesterday and went 14/9/1 using the ELM-7 with 2 enhanced dmg mods, an ION pistol, all on an adv scout suit. I was even beating RR users, as well as snipers and other laser rifle users. I've got proficiency 3 in it currently. If you look at the stats the weapon dmg has increased per tier now. Don't burst fire it either since that resets its dmg back, just hold the trigger until you get close to overheating. but if you have to run damage modules with a laser that has proficiency it just points out that its still UP. oh well either its fixed sooner or later or the PS4 migration will fix the problem . The dmg mods are only there to make up for the lack of armor dmg it does, it easily destroysshields without dmg mods or proficiency. I will say aim assist could be better on it, since its difficult to track some moving targets.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 278	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:35:00 - [44] - Quote I put a burnstalk on a gal scout yesterday with no SP invested I got plenty of kills around 30+ after 3 matches I think your problem is your ADS sensitivity, I had to drop mine almost to zero (made a huge difference) Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Rusty Shallows 1266	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:21:00 - [45] - Quote Derek Barnes wrote: So far I went 20-0 in a match with the viziam laser. Im using the Commando ak.0 which gives me 10% damage increase with the laser. I was kind-of thinking about speccing into that fit. Maybe not the ak.0 for cost reasons. I'm a relapsing try-hard. It sucks. *wishes more people would post about using the Amar Commando and Laser Rifles* Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:24:00 - [46] - Quote and yet i regularly pull 36/0 sighs this i dont understand but in short the amar assault is glitched soon to be hotfixed by ccp it is not receiving the heat reduction bonus...wait till hot fix will be great but as for your currently going0/5 i dunno what to say post 1.8 for me look like this 22/0 21/0 32/1 36/0 56/3 58/0 just off top of my head some of the scores ive pulled with lr as of 1.8 A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:25:00 - [47] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: I put a burnstalk on a gal scout yesterday with no SP invested I got plenty of kills around 30+ after 3 matches I think your problem is your ADS sensitivity, I had to drop mine almost to zero (made a huge difference) wow 0/0 is way low i run 35/35 and 50/50 :p A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1475	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:29:00 - [48] - Quote Laser is good.. It's just spent to much time away from being viable in DUST. We have new sockets, maps and even modes where it never really played a competitive role. People are just starting to try it out and figure out how to use it and what kind of positional advancements they can make on the battlefield with it. I can see it becoming viable in the coming weeks. It always did take a player that liked a certain playstyle to make it truly shine... Even in the Hayday's. CSR, Espeon.. etc.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1269	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:37:00 - [49] - Quote Musta Tornius wrote: G Torq and I done a followup analysis on laser in 1.8, not to mention I spoke to some CCP peeps. Basically the heat how it is now is correct, the patch notes were incorrect. The amarr assault is bugged but that's different. The laser has faster ramp up damage than before, it used to be 0.8 extra per shot but it's now 0.91, 0.94 and 1.04 for std adv and proto. Not to mention base damage is higher too on adv and proto. tldr; the laser is much stronger than before, about 20% for standard laser compared to 1.7. The optimal ranges, well just check my signature :) it's insane but shhhhh. There is a cap on damage though right? The SKE has an attribute labeled "m_BeamInfo.m_fMaxBeamDamage" that is set to 450 on all versions of the LR. So how does that fit into the formula? Best PvE idea ever!
Echoist Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 238	Posted - 2014.03.26 21:48:00 - [50] - Quote Buddy you just suck with the laser lol, been melting people's faces off all day today. I wouldn't be surprised to see you indoors trying to spam the laser at less than 20m lol. It's a gun all about patience and strategy not this run and gun crap. Choose your position carefully and stay behind friendly blueberries and squadmates to use them as cover and interference. Laser isn't the kind of gun where you can just pick it up and automatically be good at it if you want that then use one of the other racial rifles. Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.

Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1453	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:05:00 - [51] - Quote Echoist wrote: Buddy you just suck with the laser lol, been melting people's faces off all day today. I wouldn't be surprised to see you indoors trying to spam the laser at less than 20m lol. It's a gun all about patience and strategy not this run and gun crap. Choose your position carefully and stay behind friendly blueberries and squadmates to use them as cover and interference. Laser isn't the kind of gun where you can just pick it up and automatically be good at it if you want that then use one of the other racial rifles. i imagine there is an adjustment factor lr is a hardcore tactical rifle..the reason i am pulling such high scores with perfection is simple...i never stopped using laser rifle as my primary weapon from chromosome. it has always been and will always be my number 1 light rifle no matter what becomes of it A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Rusty Shallows 1268	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:08:00 - [52] - Quote Echoist wrote: STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle. What could possibly we wrong with that? My HMG is named Cassandra. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>


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