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Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
736
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:39:00 -
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I'm fine with cloak, however with the cal and gal scouts each boasting 700-800hp they are now assault suits with a cloak.
Maybe it's time to follow the vehicles and EvE's path for tanking mods and introduce small, medium, and large shield and armor extenders for dropsuits. This way we don't get scout suits who run faster than assaults with more HP and a cloaking ability. |
Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
412
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:49:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:I'm fine with cloak, however with the cal and gal scouts each boasting 700-800hp they are now assault suits with a cloak.
Maybe it's time to follow the vehicles and EvE's path for tanking mods and introduce small, medium, and large shield and armor extenders for dropsuits. This way we don't get scout suits who run faster than assaults with more HP and a cloaking ability.
we should get that, and then make a negative to fitting plates and such that are larger than they can hold.
I make merc cakes, my pan is a dropship.
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Nocturnal Soul
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2519
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:58:00 -
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I love this idea
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
169
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:39:00 -
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Large medium and small might be a little hard to implement, large and small (similar to vehicle extenders/plates) might be easier. But yes, even that would eliminate the brick scout. |
Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3636
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:27:00 -
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Assaults can stack higher
and so can heavies
Fact
I think we need heavy shield extenders for heavies but we already have light plates and they are counter-productive because they hog all the CPU |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
830
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:59:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:I'm fine with cloak, however with the cal and gal scouts each boasting 700-800hp they are now assault suits with a cloak.
Maybe it's time to follow the vehicles and EvE's path for tanking mods and introduce small, medium, and large shield and armor extenders for dropsuits. This way we don't get scout suits who run faster than assaults with more HP and a cloaking ability.
This couldwork, you could also simply alter the penalty based on framesize. But if we goe that way (i guess light plates would be Ferroscale/reactive plates) make those plates viable.
Why Ferros and reactive plates still have huge CPU/PG requirements is way beyond me. Also remove the stupid 1% penalty from reactive plates or buff their HP to Ferro levels.
Those two makes really no sense in their current implementation.
Medium plates would be our current std plates but what would you suggest for heavy plates (hp Values and penalty)? |
Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
106
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:13:00 -
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Actually I think a powergrid reduction for advanced and proto would fix this. Say 8 and 16. It would force people to choose between tank, utility and dps. |
Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
106
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:16:00 -
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Main thing to remember is that every new item requires code and thus is harder for ccp to implement and counts against new content in the future. Keep the solution simple and CCP is more likely to slip it in next patch. |
X7 lion
SWAMPERIUM
137
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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:00:00 -
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yea you can make a scout a better ass ult suit then the assault suit but it comes at a cost, its over all a specialist fit, because of the lower pg and cpu alot less can be done with it, so you can get the advantage but you sacrifice alot to get it & for the recorded the opposite can be done you can make assult suits a better scout suit but with sacrifices
I am death incarnate, you will not see me or hear me.
You shall only feel the strike of my blade.
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Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
739
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:57:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:yea you can make a scout a better ass ult suit then the assault suit but it comes at a cost, its over all a specialist fit, because of the lower pg and cpu alot less can be done with it, so you can get the advantage but you sacrifice alot to get it & for the recorded the opposite can be done you can make assult suits a better scout suit but with sacrifices
Scout has MORE CPU/PG than assault |
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Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
415
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Posted - 2014.03.27 21:56:00 -
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I need this before my precious scout gets nerfed due to high HP!
I make merc cakes, my pan is a dropship.
really CCP, I'm SEEING cloaked scouts everywhere... they're not invis.
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
2619
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Posted - 2014.03.27 22:00:00 -
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+1
Hellstorm Inc., Executive Director
Amarr Victor
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1626
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:13:00 -
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+1
But I think that was the idea behind the different types of plates. Just bring back the old speed penalties so that they're useful. Mind you I run Gallente so it would hurt me as well.
Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
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Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
415
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:42:00 -
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Light, medium and heavy plates nneeded! (or heavily increased fitting cost for more than 1 plate)
really CCP, I'm seeing cloaked scouts everywhere... they're not invis.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
590
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:13:00 -
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+1
Light would be 50-75-100
Medium stays as is
Heavy is 120-150-180
With a 4-6-8 movement penalty.
Maybe 4-7-10
Prototype light falls within medium basic/advanced and heavy basic falls within medium advanced/prototype.
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
Heroes in a half Gank!
TURTLE POWER!!!
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Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
66
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:13:00 -
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i like the suggestions above my post.
They could put a penalty on using modules above your class such has x2 for 1 step and x5 for 2 steps you could also have that reversed for going steps down -50% 1 step down and then -100% for 2 steps.
I don't even know why I bother.
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Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
418
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:53:00 -
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neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed tired of people soiling the scouts name by tanking!
really CCP, I'm seeing cloaked scouts everywhere... they're not invis.
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Alena Ventrallis
PAND3M0N1UM
Lokun Listamenn
1105
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:58:00 -
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We need to increase pg consumption of plates. Currently the are the same as extenders with half the CPU usage. Bring them to 14-16-18 consumption makes stacking them much less appealing.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
Fixed link.
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Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:25:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:I'm fine with cloak, however with the cal and gal scouts each boasting 700-800hp they are now assault suits with a cloak.
Maybe it's time to follow the vehicles and EvE's path for tanking mods and introduce small, medium, and large shield and armor extenders for dropsuits. This way we don't get scout suits who run faster than assaults with more HP and a cloaking ability.
I believe the best solution is to tweak the CPU/PG bonus for the cloak. Les CPU/PG means the can't go pro to weapon and 700-800HP when heaving the cloak on. |
neolutumus
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
21
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:06:00 -
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I'm really in favor of a more realistic calculation of how much plates slow a suit down (ie. heavy suits already weigh a ton, so adding plates wouldn't slow them that much, whereas scouts weigh very little, and have little push power, thus resulting in HUGE drops in speed should they choose to stack plates. Equation would look like P/(W+M)=R where P:suit power rating , w : Weight of suit , M : weight of module.) If this were to be used, there could be additional low modules that would increase base movement rate by reducing the overall armor HP on a percentage basis.
want to double up on those plates on your scout? going to move slower than an assault, and i think that extenders / reps should also increase your overall detection. heavy tanks should be easier to spot on radar, imo.
Give DUST514 some direction.
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